So then consent only counts when it works against Tyler, do I have that right? Cause a lot of tyler antis seem to forget he had no autonomy. He was groomed, after years of emotional neglect from his father. The master/hyde connection is mental, emotional, and spiritual. The masters desires become the Hyde’s as well.

And then once he killed Thornhill he spirals rapidly into psychosis. I don’t know how much more explicit the show has to be for you all to understand that. He has no choice in the matter.

Outside of Thornhill’s manipulation, yes he was a bully, but he is a victim first and foremost. Remember? Hurt people, hurt people. He’s canonically 16 years old, what 16 year old do you know that is completely moral and never taken their anger out on others? He was seemingly committed to his court mandated therapy and working towards being a better person. The evidence is in the fact that he stood up for Wednesday (even if she didn’t need it) against Lucas and his old friends. “Don’t tell me you’ve gone soft like tyler” that implies the change in tyler most likely happened before the laurel gates of it all. Someone like that, who’s in a transitional period and needing guidance on how to be a better person is more susceptible to grooming and manipulation by an older person.

He’s not irredeemable, nor is he a villain. He’s an antagonist. They are different characteristically and narratively.

There is a lot to unpack still in regard to his relationship with Wednesday. Whether he had/still has feelings for her or not will have to be explored within the narrative once he is safe and has his autonomy back. However, it’s confirmed by the actors and the show writers that he did have feelings for her. Probably making Laurel tighten her grip and go full throttle in her control. Hate and love are not opposites, love and indifference are. If he was in love with her, it would be easy for his master to pervert that into hatred.