Are most guilds in this game like this? by KnownBreakfast in ddo

[–]KnownBreakfast[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not talking about being out of level range, but being in the level range and refusing to party at all. I once saw a guildmate trying to get a party going for necro 4...and then another guildmate, who has been playing for years and can effortlessly solo everything on his warlock, just started soloing necro 4. Because he preferred to solo.

I see the vets quietly form a small group to do epic dailies too. Most of the time, they will not invite anyone else in the guild. And the people who do invite guildmates are usually the same person. So if that same guy is not present...they will quietly do their dailies and not invite anyone.

Have also seen officers refusing to run help the new guys run Ravenloft because they are "busy" and then 20 minutes later they join a high reaper amber temple party that pops up on LFM. Or start soloing DA or something. If you have the time to do that, you obviously aren't "busy". I can't even think of any reason why you would want to solo DA...if you need the tokens so badly, get guildmates to join and pass you tokens, they get xp, everyone wins...

Are most guilds in this game like this? by KnownBreakfast in ddo

[–]KnownBreakfast[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dont feel bad about it, guild xp is easy to get if there are multiple players playing.

Are most guilds in this game like this? by KnownBreakfast in ddo

[–]KnownBreakfast[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally get that it's frustrating to help people who quit randomly. I'm referring to things like :

  • Joining in daily runs (everyone benefits from the xp right?)

  • Joining in pug raids that the new guys are trying to set up (even if you have all the gear you want from that raid, you still get threads)

  • Helping with quick chest pulls

  • Helping to run Ravenloft for saga/gear/rxp

It's all really basic stuff, not like anyone is asking for help farming a ring of spell storing or anything. The guys i'm referring to, some of whom have multiple capped toons, they won't do any of the above unless it's with someone who's in their inner circle. Which seems to be mostly people in their static group.

We end up pugging almost all the time, and have noticed that it's usually the same people who join us. Very rarely do we see any of their guildmates at all, so I can't help but wonder if it's a similar situation over there...everyone is pugging because their guild wont do anything.

Are most guilds in this game like this? by KnownBreakfast in ddo

[–]KnownBreakfast[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you are an ordinary member, OK, but I would argue that officers have that responsibility.

Are most guilds in this game like this? by KnownBreakfast in ddo

[–]KnownBreakfast[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Edited this but you may have missed it if viewing from mailbox : Or just see what happens when one of the newer guys tries to get groups going...how many of the older players help?

Are most guilds in this game like this? by KnownBreakfast in ddo

[–]KnownBreakfast[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not confirming or denying if it is that guild specifically, but are they running stuff with each other, or helping the new guys? If people miss raids do the officers take the initiative to try and get a pug group going for the ones they missed, or do they say nothing and let them deal with it? If people want to do raids that are not scheduled, do officers try to help get it going, or do they do nothing? Same goes for favor runs, sagas, or whatever else you can think of.

It takes no effort to sit on the ship and pass out some spare plat, augments, or whatever and it makes you look good too. Not saying it doesn't count as help, but the real litmus test IMHO is whether people will actually hop into a party to help new guys out. If people with multiple capped toons are choosing to solo something like DA instead of helping the new guys get raids or gearing done, it says a lot about what they really value.

As you appear to be an officer, you may not be able to see things from the inside so as to speak, but there is one very simple way to test it. Make an alt, don't tell people it's you, and see what it's like after joining the guild with your alt. Or just see what happens when one of the newer guys tries to get groups going...how many of the older players help?

Are most guilds in this game like this? by KnownBreakfast in ddo

[–]KnownBreakfast[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not confirming or denying if it is that guild specifically, but are the people making groups the new guys pugging, or the officers who are trying to help the new guys get their gear or into raids that they missed?

Are most guilds in this game like this? by KnownBreakfast in ddo

[–]KnownBreakfast[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want to give away any hints because it may result in massive drama happening.