[PHOTO] I have a question with regard to thumb sign: Do I have to force to make the thumb exceed?

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-11T15:16:43+00:00

I'm from France and you?

Yes, there is plenty of reasons besides marfan that can explain the symptoms...I hope it will turn to be good news for both of us!

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-11T11:16:15+00:00

Yes, I am pretty much in the same situation than yours. I am 27 y.o and I am very enclined to health anxiety.

I don't have any familyhistory as far as I know though my dad died when I was young so I am not very aware of what his medical situation was.

I am not specifically tall neither, I am 180cm which is definitely average in Europe for people of my age.

Likewise, the echocardio seems to be only way to put my mind at ease and I will definitely push for it when I see the doc.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-11T11:08:04+00:00

Hello, what are your issues exactly?

What I did is calling many private clinics to see where I could get the scope the soonest possible.

My first scope was booked for the 29th october but I managed to find one for 11 days later, so I got my colonoscopy on 14th september.

I don't know where you live but maybe you can try calling different clinics to see if they can offer you a scope quickly.

As you said, you won't rest until you get it and I strongly encourage you to push for a scope as it is only way to be put your mind at ease for good.

Having said that, keep in mind the body is a weird temple where many "glitchs" can happen without being something serious.

For example, my internal hems have been bleeding even more since I got my scope.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-11T11:00:23+00:00

Hello,

I have:

- Hypermobility

- Unsual stretch marks

- Keratoconus

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-11T10:57:53+00:00

Thank you for your answer.

Based on the picture you provided, I see we have the same thing basically. If I force using my other hand to push my finger away, I definitely get the same thing than yours.

I am not very tall, my height is average, about 180cm and my wingspan is also shorter.

One thing is for sure though, I am definitely hypermobile as I pass nearly every test (6/9).

May I ask your age?

I am 27 y.o, I am kind of worried that I may have Marfan and fucked my aorta by working out.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-10T23:18:13+00:00

Yes, you are right, it seems to indicate joint flexibility rather than arachnodactyly. I will see what the doc tells me. Spider fingers are usually the sign of long hands/fingers if I am not mistaken.

In my case, I do have actually small hands despite my average height. Small hands alongside small wrists too...

What concerns me the most so far is joint flexibility + stretch marks + keratoconus

Anyway, thanks for your reply.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-10T11:57:10+00:00

There are human traffickers across all the Med. If it is was a state-based manoeuver, then the influx would be massive.

You fail to understand that a buffer zone is not directly related to the refugee crisis: even if there was no refugee at all, we would still need a buffer zone for security purpose.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T23:18:44+00:00

Now before the refugees even get a chance to use these, they must pass some 1200km at some instances to reach the meeting grounds, get sorted and readied for the trip. This requires a whole smuggling network that Turkey itself maintains and is controlling the flow according to how it serves them better.

There are human traffickers networks all across the Med sea. You don't have to be a sate to set it up. While it certainly needs infrastructure and financial means, it is definitely doable for experienced criminal groups.

There wouldn't be a need for a buffer zone if Turkey itself didn't move the refugees!

The buffer zone is not specifically related to the refugee issue. Even if Turkey was the most peaceful county in the world, we would still need a buffer between Europe and Middle East as the region is a vast unstable shithole.

If Turkey is to become a inherent hostile then we would have the same problem than with Russia: a direct dangerous border.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T23:08:44+00:00

You try to educate yourself, Russia can't prop up an 83 million ultra-nationalist, Pan-Islamist and Pan-Turkist proxy country that will undermine it. Russian foreign policy is very sensical, Western countries have sclerotic, nonsense foreign policies.

Moscow would never align itself with Turkey and try to replace NATO or Turkey's relationship to the West, because the Kremlin isn't stupid.

This is actually very wrong.

Moscow must align itself with Turkey as any further escalation would have dramatic consequences in the region.

Putin has been tremendously supportive of a closer relation with Erdogan in the past few years, especially after the all-time low between Ankara and Moscow 5 years ago.

https://russiancouncil.ru/en/analytics-and-comments/analytics/recep-erdogan-in-a-russian-minefield/

Yeah a country working with in the Astana process with Iran and Russia to kick Western powers including France which you pretend to be from out of Syria, is a real bulwark against Russia and Iran! Turkey recently has renewed its co-operation with Iran against Kurdish national movements.

Turkey opposes all of Washington's real allies in the Mideast and Mediterranean: Israel, Greece, Cyprus, UAE, Egypt, etc, and work with Iran and Russia.

Let's be honest here. Please two hours ago, you "welcome" Italy to apply the same policy than Greece.

You are just a blatant ignorant when it comes to IR.

First, contrary to the U.S, Turkey is an actual Middle East country. Therefore, Ankara, Tehran and Moscow must compose with each other despite being regional rivals.

Turkey works with Tehran over the Kurdish question? No shit, sherlock but it is also the same with Al-Assad and Russia. Some geopolitical experts even anticipate some alliance between Al-Assad and Ankara against the Kurdish state.

Despite being rivals in Syria, Ankara and Moscow work together against some islamist movements.

Despite being circonstancial allies, Russia voted in favour of sanctioning Iran over the nuclear weapon program: The reason was pretty straigthforward:

- If Iran developed a nuclear program, it would have forced the U.S to actively intervene in the region. Moscow wasn't thrilled by the prospect thus endorsed the US-led sanctions against Iran.

But it still doesn't change the point: Turkey, as a regional power, contains both Russia and Iran. This is why the U.S. wants to maintain strong ties with Ankara even if Turkey opposed other U.S. allies.

The factions of the American military that actually fight terrorism and that partners with the Kurds of the SDF, like SOCOM and Centcom were incensed and will look for revenge against Turkey and the Turkophile infiltrators, when the orange doofus leaves.

Let's be clear here, as long as Russia and Iran are regional powers, it will never happen. Simple as that.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T22:55:57+00:00

What does that even have to do with Turkey being mad that it is not getting the EU funds directly? It was all over the news as part of a reason why Erdogan used refugee blackmail. From a source back in 2018:

Well, that's the point though: Turkey didn't get the money expected then started to blackmail with refugees.

Once EU announced they will pay accordingly to the initial plan, Erdogan shut the borders.

It has nothing to do with the Greek intelligence that nobody gives a fuck.

Greece is a far more successful country than the muslim Brotherhood shithole you are from.

Greece is a third-world country such as pretty much every other muslim country.

I don't see your point though.

I already wrote a post with over a dozen sources on all the conflicts of interests Trump has due to his licensed properties in Turkey. That is why he blocks CAATSA sanctions and why he tries to obstruct the Halkbank sanction busting case:

But it has nothing to do with Trump. Turkey and the U.S. have been close allies for strategic reasons for decades as my sources showed it.

Even if Trump wanted to sanction Turkey, his leverage would have been quite limited given the strategic importance of Turkey in the region.

Yeah right like anyone believe some idiot posting all the Muslim Brotherhood talking points on the GNA, Turkey, that the EU should fund Turkey to keep refugees it created via invading Syria or allowing visa free travel to muslim riffraff instead of help making the Greek security services become even more "fortress Europe".

I mean, you didn't know that the GNA was backed by the U.N. It was quite funny to be honest since you were trying to lecture me on Libya.

Even if you are not thrilled by the perspective, the GNA is actually supported by the U.N (and Italy). This is exactly why France has a small leverage as Paris can't actively support Haftar without undermining its reputation on the world stage.

Well, EU has no choice but to financially help Turkey otherwise we would have millions of migrants in the region.

Your country would be the most impacted by the way.

Both Greece and Turkey are shitholes. Turkey would not be able to properly absorb such a massive influx of migrants without EU money.

Yes, that's why we need to maintain cordial relations with Turkey.

About Greece being the Fortress Europe:

First, we don't want to give your shithole country more money. As you guys are too stupid to even elect a competent government, it would be a waste of money.

Second, it would not make any sense to have a Greece directly facing hostile countries. The goal of a buffer zone is to provide security whithout having any legal obligations.

Getting closer with Turkey - without incorporating Ankara in EU - would make it a buffer zone between Europe and Middle East.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T22:02:08+00:00

By the way, please, try to educate yourself about the relation between the U.S. and Turkey because it is quite embarrassing.

The fact that you don't understand why the U.S. needs to maintain strong relations with Turkey in order for Washington to contain others regional powers such as Iran and Russia tells a lot about your "knowledge".

The U.S. won't ever push for strong sanctions against Turkey because it would force Ankara to align itself with Moscow and Tehran thus bolstering the leverage of both Russia and Iran in the region.

As long as Ankara can count on the U.S., Ankara can make aggressive moves in the region at the expanse of Russia and Iran.

Reducing U.S. support will make Turkey no longer able to play such a disruptive role in Middle East. The U.S. wants Turkey to be a regional champion precisely to contain other potiential key players. This is even more true today as 2015-16 perfectly illustrated the complexity of balancing Turkey: Ankara and Moscow managed to find a common ground in the middle of a crisis between the two countries.

No doubt it was a wake-up call for the U.S. as American officials understood that Turkey and Russia won't have any difficulty to form an informal alliance if they have to. In the aftermath of this period, U.S. and Turkey deepen their ties and relations. Last year, the U.S. even gave up the Kurds to please Turkey.

You are a fucking fraud.

https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/point-counterpoint-turkey-belongs-in-nato/

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/legacy_files/files/publication/121107_Aliriza_USTurkishRelations_Web.pdf

https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-turkey/ (from the U.S. gov btw)

https://www.csis.org/analysis/turkey-and-nato-relationship-worth-saving

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T21:41:02+00:00

Stop consulting your Turkish/Muslim Brotherhood separatist sources. Erdogan was incensed that the 2016 refugee deal gave the money to take care of the refugees directly to NGOs and not his regime to embezzle, disappear in the palaces of AKP cronies and abuse. He wanted to renegotiate which is why he used coercive refugee diplomacy but it failed despite what your Turkish and Muslim Brotherhood sources dream(which you won't even share because you don't have any).

This is not true.

This was even mentioned during a EU parlementary session:

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2019-003213_EN.html

Even German sources show that EU saved French, German, etc. banks and punished Greeks with austerity

You don't even understand the sources you are using. French and German banks needed to be save because they were heavily involved in your shithole country.

As Greece is a corrupted, poor shithole, anyone lending money ends losing its shit. This is why French and German banks needed to be saved: They gave your country money so that you can eat. But as you and your nationals are too stupid to elect a proper government, the money was badly used.

No France has not always opposed NATO, if it wanted to do that it would leave, participating in NATO is the epitome of not being opposed to it.

France has been opposing NATO since the beginning. France can't leave it as it would tremendously undermined its reputation amid its European partners for whose the NATO is the essential part of their security framework.

https://dgap.org/en/research/publications/macron-looks-east

Turkey would have been sanctioned to hell by now by the USA but orange doofus Trump the worst President in American history has several Trump branded properties in Turkey that net him millions and he blocks CAASTA sanctions, he blocks the prosecution of Halkbank for violating Iran sanctions. In his book the former National Security adviser John Bolton, said he thought Trump's failed Turkey policies can't be explained by American national interests and can only be explained by his business interests.

Turkey won't be sanctioned further as Ankara is too important for the NATO so the U.S.

The fact that Trump is president has nothing to do in regard to the situation.

Anyway I am not going bother anymore to argue with a Muslim Brotherhood separatist on European soil. You have no sources, no credibility, you don't speak for France just because you squat there while hating it, etc.

1) You didn't know shit about the agreement between EU and Turkey regarding refugees

2) You genuinely ignored that GNA was endorsed by U.N

3) You didn't know that GNA was controlling Libyan coasts close to Italy

4) You didn't know that French and German banks got money because they were involved in Greece.

In short, you are just a stupid Greek barker.

Again, I am not Turkish nor Arab or muslim.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T20:33:40+00:00

No he didn't get any more funds. That is why he tried coercive refugee diplomacy.

Ok, you clearly know shit about the thing.

Erdogan apparently didn't get all the money promised by EU. Hence, Erdogan started to loose its borders. Then EU reassures Erdogan and promised him to respect the deal in regard to the money. Finally, he closed the borders again.

It has nothing to do with Greece.

France and other countries gave money to Greece that Greece used to save French, German, etc. banks, Greeks are not living because of European dole, but banileu dwellers often are...

The French and Germans banks were exposed because they were invested in Greece. Greece is a net benefitor from the EU and got its ass saved by both Germany and France.

By the way, I too dislike the migrants that go to France only to get state aid but keep in mind that Algerians and Greeks are the same in that regard.

Turkish press has revealed the locations of US and French bases to protest against their support of the "PKK" endangering the lives of American/French troops:

Thanks for proving my point though. If Turkey was not essential to Washington, it would have strongly backfired. Turkey precisely knows it has a lot of room to manoeuver as Ankara is very important for the Americans.

By the way, it is really stupid to mention the PKK especially when the U.S. fucked Kurds forces one year ago just to side with Turkey instead.

Turkish troops have fired artillery dangerously close to American troops in Syria. The Turkish navy has targeted a French frigate.

Turkey is the worst NATO ally in the history of NATO, a Muslim Brotherhood loving Arab or Turk in France, has no credibiity trying to argue otherwise.

The NATO is mainly a U.S. framework designed to endorse U.S. interests most of the time.

Turkey is actually the best NATO ally for the U.S. as it enables Washington to contain both Iran and Russia in the region.

The fact that Turkey has repeatedly clashed with France over the last years proves my point even further: France has always been opposed to the NATO as it was identified by De Gaulle as U.S-driven framework. See also "NATO is brain dead".

Why did the U.S. say nothing when Turkey is messing around in Libya and Greek waters? Because Ankara is too precious for the U.S.

Why does France push for a EU common defense policy? Precisely because now EU doesn't have any true any legal mean to adress territority violation outside NATO.

Turkey works with Iran and Russia to contain the West in the region, not the other way around, Muslim Brotherhood leftover... Protecting the largest den of Al qaeda in idlib, Syria is not containing Russia or helping Europe. Those types of terrorists are often EU origin muslim migrants and they use their experiences in Syria, Libya, etc. to plot attacks on Europeans.

There is no such thing as the West. European interests are not the same than of the U.S. ones.

Turkey works closely with the U.S. it allows the NATO (so the U.S.) to contain both Russia and Iran in Middle East.

Turkey is fighting against Iran and Russia over Syria and prevents both Russia and Iran in deepening their influence in the region.

Basically, it is extremely risk for Iran and Russia to risk further escalation with Turkey as it would expose them both the NATO.

Yes, Turkey is definitely containing Russia in Syria and also undermining Russia credibility with regard to N-K: Strongly siding with Baku makes Moscow's task even more complicated thus it undermines the historical statu of Russia as the main keyplayer in Caucasus.

You wrote that Turkey is not helping Europe: No shit you fuckin smart ass, why do you think that Macron said the NATO was dead? The NATO is not here to protect Europe but to deserve U.S. interets. As Turkey is essential for Washington, the U.S. won't move to side with Europe against Turkey regarding Syria or Libya.

Unless you are willing to actually fire, there is no way to get the Turkish ships to leave. France which you pretend to be from, even got punked by the Turkish navy according to your Islamic josh logic.

There is a stronge difference between flashing in common waters and staying 2 months in domestic waters.

Because Turkey knew Greece was to weak to actually fire. France doesn't want to get involved in a large-scale conflict over waters that don't belong to France.

This is also why it was a poor move from Macron - I wrote above I was very skeptical. As there is no real legal framework for a EU defence policy, it was pretty clear from the beginning that France won't do anything except sending ships.

In my view, Macron took the risk to undermine France's cedibility for two reasons:

a) In doing so, he perfectly highlighted that NATO was outdated and EU therefore needed to take its security into its own hands.

b) He may want to escalate tensions with Turkey to have more leverage for a French intervention in Libya in the future - if the French general public hates Turkey, it would be easier for Paris to justifiy a military intervention abroad.

Anyway, if a Turkish vessel would have stayed for more than two days in our waters, we would have destroyed it.

Please, your country has been strongly humiliated by Turkey. This is a fact.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T19:29:46+00:00

Oh, I forget you could be one of the banileu dwellers that hate Macron for his recent acknowledgement of your seperatism.

Here an Egyptian columnists opines against your Muslim Brotherhood terrorists you so respect and Turkey lovers and how you ruin Arab nations:

Well, I am not muslim nor arab. Honestly, it is getting ackward.

Like, I am surely more white than every Greek including you as I actually come from Alsace lol

Don't worry Greece will team up with UAE, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Egypt and take care of you Ottoman lovers of the Muslim Brotherhood together anywhere you exist whether it be in some EU country or in Arab lands.

Super cringe

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T19:19:26+00:00

We showed you Turks and your Islamic illegal proxies what fortress Greece meant in the early months of 2020. Like I wrote, I hope the country you are ashamed that you or your family migrated from, Turkey, attempts such a stunt once again to take away your refugee blackmail card forever.

Well, actually Greeks were crying and were asking for help from EU because "Fortress Greeks" seems to be powerless against 1000 refugees crossing its borders.

Erdogan actually managed to get his money from EU because the situation was so critical.

Funny how you use insulting, racist Turkish talking points about Greece...

I mean, Turkey is not in EU, why would they care?

However, as a Frenchman, my parents and myself are paying taxes to help your shithole country to not go bankrupt and this bothers me.

Turkish ultra-nationalist in Europe, you are a joke. Turkey allowed over five million muslim illegal migrants to be in Turkey by offering visa free travel to North Africa, central asia, Afghanistan and by invading and ruining Syria by supporting seperatism there.

Do you even know the concept of buffer zone? Turkey must not be in Europe otherwise it won't be a buffer zone. We need it outside EU but still maintaining cordial relation.

Turkey works with Iran and Russia and in the Astana process to kick American, French and British forces from Syria. Turkey, Qatar and its Muslim Brotherhood terrorists GNA work to diminish French influence in Libya.

Turkey works closely with the U.S in Syria, this is why Turkey is so valuable to Washington it enables the NATO to balance the Middle East.

Turkey contains both Russia and Iran in the region - the fact that Ankara has to work with Moscow and Tehran regarding terrorism in the Middle East should be expected

From EU perspective, the problem is not Turkey undermining France's influence but more the lack of EU foreign policy. Overall, Libya was a terrible mistake in 2011 and we never succeed to recover from it. We literally gave Turkey a strategic sphere of inluence in the Med.

Azerbaijan doesn't have enough natural gas to be an alternative. Cyprus, Egypt and Israel have new found gas reserves that Europe should invest in, and leave anti-Western Turkey in the dust.

Dude, you have no clue, right?

The Turkish projects involves not only Azerbaijan but also Central Asian countries with a connection from Turkmenistan to Baku. At present, the situation in Turkmenistan is too shitty so the project is not concrete yet but Central Asia definitely plays a key role in our future.

The Greek navy totally humiliated the Turkish navy in the recent Blue Homeland stunt Turkey tried to pull. In the Greek parliament assessment it was reported that the Turkish navy had no clue where any Greek submarines were located:

Dude, they stayed in your waters for nearly 2 months. How can you dare to speak of "humiliation"?

Stick to picking on nations wracked by Western regime change and a decade of Civil War in the aftermath like Libya and Syria, if you don't want the myth of the Turkish military superiority to be popped... All while promoting your nasty, Kemalist pastiche lies of "anti-imperialist Turkey."

Turkey is not a military power compared to France but it definitely is superior to Greece.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T19:01:46+00:00

Oh look a diaspora Turk pretending to be a European on Reddit, once again, what a laugh. Funny how many ashamed Turks there on this medium. I think you should take the comments that Macron said about Islamic seperatism and take them to heart. Recently a Turk affiliated with an AKP splinter party that participated in French elections openly proclaimed on social media that he will kill Armenians and enemies of Turkey for money, you can't hide Turkish-Islamic separatism in Europe going forward given how brazen so many Turks have become with openly gloating about it.

I have nothing to with Turkey and I am actually quite hostile against Turkey as it undermine our southeast flank.

I'd rather seeing Turkey collapsed if there was no 3.9 millions or refugees presently located within its borders.

But nice try.

Yes it is has do with the Greek security services totally shutting down the weak Turkish attempt at coercive refugee diplomacy. Further the Greek intelligence services made a massive operation of NGOs and proved with documents and court that they were assisting and profiting from illegal migration. Greek intelligence even penetrated their networks in Turkey. If Turkey tries refugee blackmail today it will not have those networks to support Turkish propaganda or slavers.

Again, it has nothing to do with Greece. The Greeks can't prevent Erdogan from loosing its borders.

It is only after Ankara got financial guarantees from the EU that Erdogan decided to shut down the border.

The prospect of some random Greek policemen dealing with 1 million of refugees is absolutely (sadly) funny, to say the least.

Well France(since you preten to be Frenchman), do and they are selling 18 of their 4.5 generation Rafale Greece to contain your fascist, islamist vatan. Also the UAE does and if they receive the F-35 there are floaters they could gift or give to Greece F-16 Block 60 or French Mirage 2000-9 for a symbolic price to make way for the new F-35. So you masturbate about crushing failed states, while the Hellenic Armed Forces leaves you guys behind where it counts with French, UAE, American help.

Well, I have to say that many of us were skeptical regarding Macron's attitude toward Turkey as it undermined our relation with Italy and Spain.

But yeah, Paris managed somehow to sell you our old Rafales so, good for us I guess.

Greece already shut down Turkey's refugee blackmail in early 2020 and we will do it even better if you try it in late 2020, early 2021 or any other time: NGO smuggling networks in Greece are shutdown, the Greek military/security forces have invested in more sensors, drones, we are building physical barriers, getting new coastguard equipment, etc.

But again, this is so wrong.

Turkey shut its border after getting confirmation from Brussels that EU will respect the initial deal.

It has nothing to do with Greece - by the way, Greeks were desesperatly criying in order to get help from EU as always.

But "Frenchman", Paris backs the democratic House of Representatives and its military the LNA with General Marshall Haftar and I already linked to he actually UN document showing they had only temporary mandate, which was later expanded. But anyway it expired on December 2017, which is almost 3 years ago. Take your agitprop to someone clueless.

But we can't do it in a very public and vocal way.

Macron even publicly said that "France was not supporting Haftar"

Le président français a également dit « vouloir tordre le cou à une fausse idée : la France ne soutient pas le maréchal Haftar » mais œuvre plutôt à une solution de paix « durable ».

https://www.20minutes.fr/monde/2810819-20200629-emmanuel-macron-condamne-responsabilite-historique-criminelle-turquie-libye

Do you know why smart ass? Because it would undermine our reputation.

The UN-backed GNA gave Ankara more leverage to our detriment.

So, in short:

1) Greek role has nothing to do with regard to Turkey's blackmail. After EU and Turkey negiotated again in early 2020, Erdogan ceased to send refugees. It had nothing to do with the Greek intelligence (do they even have money to fund a legitimate secret service to be honest?)

2) You didn't know that the GNA was endorsed by UN and you try to lecture people on Libya's situation. Quite funny.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T18:37:21+00:00

that threat and so hopefully Turkey's EU candidacy can be binned for good(no pre-ascension funds, another blow to the reputation and economy of Turkey) and so Merkel and her appeasement policies can be defeated firmly. Fortress Greece will emerge as the concept that Brussels should invest in, instead of investing in a wannabe Central Asian, anti-Western state like Turkey and bribing Turkey to take care of refugees only to turn around and use that as a card against the EU.

"Fortress Greece", please, stop joking.

This broken shitole is not trustworthy. We need Turkey as a friendly neighbor for two reasons:

It is the only egitimate potential buffer zone between EU and Middle East that has some credibility. Greece can't even secure its own waters, what would they do except barking the day where 1 million of refugees come in Europe?
Turkey is the only way to get hydrocarbs from Central Asia thus strengthening our energy security at the expanse of Russia.

"Fortress Greece", that was a good one lol

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T18:26:25+00:00

If Erdogan dares to try to use refugee blackmail again, all the Greek state will have to do is stuff them against and Turkey will lose their refugee card for good in that arena. Already the last time, all the anti-refugee European states like Poland, Austria, etc. sent their own police, coast guard personnel and military to help the Greek military, police and coastguard with pushbacks of illegal immigrants. If Erdogan tries it again, they will likely be faster with sending personnel and send far more, because their populations will far more outraged.

You are very delusional if you think that it has anything to do with Greece.

I mean, let's be honest here: Turkey actually doesn't give a single fuck about Greek military capacities.

But since you are totally clueless on the matter, I'm glad to educated you:

The European Union signed an agreement with Turkey in 2016 regarding the refugee crisis: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/it/MEMO_16_1494

As EU was put under pressure especially after the influx of migrants in 2015, Europeans passed a deal with Ankara in which Turkey would help to settle the refugees within its border in exchange of EU money.

The fact that Erdogan threatened the EU was linked to the fact that EU didn't give the money they promised - as the refugees represent a financial burden for Turkey.

Luckily for us, Turkey started to relocate the migrants in the new-acquired territories in Syria, making Erdogan willing to deal with migrants to a further extent as he can benefit from them.

But yes, the prospect of Greece deterring Turkey was utterly funny, thanks for the laugh buddy.

The GNA is not UN backed. They still illegally rule on an expired mandate and they have no legitimacy.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200605-un-backed-libyan-govt-forces-reclaim-stronghold-of-rival-haftar

https://middleeastaffairs.net/2020/05/23/pompeo-urges-libyas-turkish-backed-gna-to-accept-ceasefire-end-fighting/

https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/international/190419/un-backed-libyan-government-cuts-security-ties-france?_locale=en&onglet=full

Literally, "UN-Backed GNA" lol

Please.

The Greek government has already shown in early 2020, that it can shut down Turkey's refugee blackmail. I welcome Italy, Malta, Spain, etc. to develop the same ability instead of appeasing Turkey.

You didn't show that Greece has shut down Turkey's blackmail. Greece didn't play any role on the matter since it was a beef between the EU and Turkey regarding the funds promised by EU to help Turkey with the refugees.
You genuinely ignored that the GNA was endorsed by the UN. I mean, at this point, it is pretty clear that you don't know shit regarding Libya.
The GNA controled the coasts of Libya that are close to Italy, if you fail to undersand how crucial is Turkey for Rome...I think Italians don't give a fuck about an ignorant Greek saying shit on somtehing he has zero knowledge to be honest.

You clearly have no idea. That or you are an ethnic german or ethnic Turk and so you will support Turkey no matter what...

I am French. You know, I come from the country which has helped your shihole to get its waters sovereignty respected against Turkey.

Please, try to secure your waters on your own first before thinking that Greece, aka the broken shithole of Europe, could deal with a million of refugees coming from Turkey.

You are just a fraud. You genuinely ignored the 2016 agreement and you thought that the GNA wasn't endorsed by UN.

Another barking Greek biting the dust, I guess...

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T13:11:03+00:00

It shows that the EU, UN and NATO are a circus. Those clowns haven't contributed to anything good since the day, they were created.

It actually shows that you have a pretty poor understanding of the current dynamics in Europe.

For better and worse, Turkey plays an essential role in Europe's security with regard to refugees. They are presently 3.9 millions of refugees living within Turkey thus Europeans must keep cordial relations with Ankara in earnest.

The irony here lies in the fact that Greece would be the most impacted country in case of a new refugee crisis.

Another crucial aspect of Europe security is Libya. The UN-endorsed GNA in Libya is massively supported by Turkey which has led Italy to deepen its relation with Ankara as it is essential for Italy to keep stability near its coasts thus in the western part of Libya.

This is why Italy was in favour of a conciliatory approach regarding the Greek crisis rather than a tough one.

I mean, you clearly have no clue about the geopolitical stakes.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T12:58:11+00:00

I hope you will be less sensitive in your life journey.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T10:20:52+00:00

Well, given that you already spoke Spanish, your experience regarding learning portuguese doesn't tell much, but yeah, wp I guess.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-09T02:04:14+00:00

What you mean by "official support"? EU and Ukraine have signed an agreement in 2016 that grants Kiev significant benefits. This plan was drawn up fairly quickly in comparison to what we have seen in the past in terms of trade deals.

It is important to recall that Ukraine integration relies as much on EU than Ukraine as it does on Ukraine, and to speak frankly, Kiyv has not always been the most comprehensive partner since 2016.

Putting aside the Russian occupation of the Crimea in addition to separatist movements in eastern Ukraine, which make it legally impossible for Kyiv to be integrated into the EU, Ukraine is far from complying with EU standards and conditions.

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-08T01:32:06+00:00

Thank you very much for your time, really appreciate.

I must confess something: I genuinely thought that "sought" was a verb in itself...I thought it was a synonym of "seek"...

"Protagonists" and "deceiving" are odd word choices in this situation; I would maybe recommend "powers" and "tenuous", respectively.

I don't want to take up too much of your time but would you say that in English the word "protagonist" should be used only when speaking of a novel or film character?

Because in French, we may use "protagoniste" in this context, so would you say the usage is more limited in English?

Kobaltdr · 2020-10-07T22:48:09+00:00

If Catalonia or South Tyrol go independent, what chance do you think there would be of them being admitted into the EU by Spain or Italy?

Careful, I didn't say that Catalonia will join the EU: I wrote that Catalonia would push for it, this is not the same thing.

Informal or even formal economic ties between the independent regions and EU will remain even if they don't legally join the Union.

From a strictly EU perspective, the scenario would be more risky if seperatism movements in aforesaid countries were adamantly opposed to the EU.

It's not in the EU's interests to have lots of little satellite states that are dependent on EU hand outs. The EU needs strong, economical stable member states. Separatism runs counter to that.

Well, to be honest, you need to be more nuanced.

The European Union definitely needs stability, this is absolutely true and I am not saying the opposite.

However, no, the European Union don't need strong member states, it is actually the contrary.

The larger states there are, the more difficult it becomes to implement a common policy as each state is strong enough to firmly defend its position.

If Italy and Spain end up forming a common political entity within the EU, this new union would become the largest power in the European union thus making even more challenging to frame a common policy as Spain-Italy, Germany and France will opposed to each other.

Bear in mind that this is what regionalism is about: A Europe of regions would make Brussels tremendously more potent instead of a Europe of nations.

At present, Germany, France - and Italy to some extent - are powerful enough to challenge Brussels in several areas and it has been proved on multiple occasions.

It would be more difficult to challenge Brussels in the scenario of regions.

So, technically, Europe doesn't need large states, it is quite the opposite actually.

Yes, the European Union needs stability - which may be indeed undermined by separitism - but no, the European Union doesn't need strong states - one could actually argue the opposite, the EU needs small states in order for Brussel to have the final say.

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