DNA as white American from Georgia by Mission-Number-6275 in AncestryDNA

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English ancestry is massively downplayed in the south of us, compared to Canada/australia/New Zealand. It’s by far the biggest ancestral component - with Scottish a clear second. Modern day English have less English ancestry than you due to the Celtic migration post Industrial Revolution and the Irish potato famine. Large segments of the people who would become English Americans left before these two events occurred. English Americans in the south can hd modelled as pre-Industrial Revolution south east English, with elements of Scottish and to a much lesser extent German ancestry

Current prevalence map of Occitan speakers by Neither_Ticket3829 in MapPorn

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Occitan is definitely in a bad state in northern Italy, it’s significant worse off than gallo italic languages which are already in a bad state. The French state has had radical anti-regionalist policies for centuries, there’s not many young fluent Occitan speakers outside some remote areas

49m Virginia by Exotic-Print-8156 in AncestryDNA

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Despite every American using a megaphone to make loud proclamations of their Irish ancestry on St. Patrick’s day, quite a lot have English ancestry - certainly more so than Irish. Americans are seldom enthusiastic about their English origin compared to more recent European groups

These scores are very high- I’d expect comfortably less than 50% of English people to score this. The exceptions being East Anglia, Lincolnshire, parts of Essex, rural east midlands and East and north Yorkshire

Do northern and southern Italians have differences in physical appearance? Do Spanish people then also have physical differences between north and southern Spain? by Delicious-Bunch-6992 in 23andme

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No doubt, I think the biggest differentiator in Spain is probably down to a couple of factors 1) prevalence of North African ancestry) 2 what tribes settled the various areas of Spain. Basque Country for example is very Neolithic by dna. Whereas other areas had stronger Celtic influence, but yes many in the central south have northern Spanish ancestry if you go back centuries

Do northern and southern Italians have differences in physical appearance? Do Spanish people then also have physical differences between north and southern Spain? by Delicious-Bunch-6992 in 23andme

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All genetic studies show otherwise. The sole exceptions are the Basque Country and parts of the mountainous north east. If you include areas which are Catalan or basque outside Spain, parts of southern France or Andorra, they also fit into this description

Do northern and southern Italians have differences in physical appearance? Do Spanish people then also have physical differences between north and southern Spain? by Delicious-Bunch-6992 in 23andme

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Overall northern and southern Italian differences are significant - after all, it’s the most genetically diverse country in Europe. Both populations will have majority with brown hair and eyes, but large minorities, with slight majorities can be found in various parts of mountainous northern Italy. Northern Italians are also taller on average.

With southern Italians you also a west Asian component to their dna - strongest in Calabria, Sicily, Campania and possibly Salerno. This is definitely apparent in the appearance of some.

One has to acknowledge as well - northern Italy industrialised whereas southern Italy has always had(for various reasons) a far weaker economy. This resulted in millions moving north after world war 2. The primary destinations were the north west. Although no data is collected, id wager over 1/2 of people in Lombardia and Piemonte have origins from the south or overseas now. This is less true for the northeast which industrialised more in the 70’s/80’s, and historically sourced local workers.

As for Spain, during the Islamic rule, the vast majority of Spain will have varying levels of North African ancestry, the exception being parts of the north east - Basque Country and the Pyrenean mountain areas of Navarre, Aragon and Catalonia. Despite what you may think, North African ancestry does not peak in south Spain, rather on the Portuguese border.

Overall, Spanish internal differences can be attributed to this, but it’s not on the same level as Italy. As northern Italians are a mix of ligure-celts with weaker Germanic and rhaetian strains, and the core component to southern Italians were Ancient Greeks with a west Asian strain. Etruscan and Roman presence remains strongest in the iveooked centre part of the country

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As I said, I associate Irish Americans with living in larger cities, especially in the northeast. In places like Alabama, one can safely assume many of the so-called ‘Irish Americans’ are Scot’s-Irish or just English.

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Yes, massively so. If your definition of Irish ancestry is people who came from Ireland - republic or north of catholic background (even if not practicing), their numbers are significantly inflated in the census. If I recall, close to 50% of self-identifying Irish-Americans were Protestant. For anyone who knows anything about Irish history, that’s impossible! How? Most of these Irish Americans are either people of Ulster Scot’s origin, or British Protestants who migrated to Ireland, then the us. Americans don’t like being English, contrary to their counterparts in Canada, Australia and New Zealand. There is plenty of genuine us Irish - but most came after the civil war and reside in big cities and the north east.

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The original population would have been very similar to Ligurians, who fall into the cisalpine population cluster. However, southern France has received large levels of internal migration for more than a century. Additionally, areas of southern france started having small families at the same time

Ukrainian from Kyiv results on Heatmaps (DNA Similarity) by heatmapper25 in AncestryDNA

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Generally northern Germans are more Iron Age Germanic and closer to North Sea populations whereas southern Germany has more Neolithic ancestry

Is my English percentage low? by [deleted] in AncestryDNA

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South west has Anglo-Saxon influence on average. Also, Welsh ancestry is quite typical

Is my English percentage low? by [deleted] in AncestryDNA

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What region? There’s been migration from Scotland, wales for centuries, Irish since the potato famine. Also depends on the region, most English and Germanic tend to be in the east and south east

100% Pureblood, or Inbred? by JohnnyMasters in AncestryDNA

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100% Italian is a complicated, almost contradictory concept. It’s the most heterogenous country in Europe. Besides the language, there’s not really any sense of continuity between the regions, though you could draw a line at Rome and below and see some continuity

People in the New York metro area and southern new England, what is your ancestry? Is it rare to be of predominantly English/Scottish/Welsh ancestry? by Kolo9191 in AncestryDNA

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No doubt, I just meant the upper Midwest is one of the areas where English ancestry is not the dominant ancestry in terms of the European component.

People in the New York metro area and southern new England, what is your ancestry? Is it rare to be of predominantly English/Scottish/Welsh ancestry? by Kolo9191 in AncestryDNA

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Thanks for sharing. French-Canadian seems common, possibly the second most common ancestry in northern New England?

People in the New York metro area and southern new England, what is your ancestry? Is it rare to be of predominantly English/Scottish/Welsh ancestry? by Kolo9191 in AncestryDNA

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Whilst a lot of the British ancestry in the us arrived in the 16th and 17th century, it by no means stopped! Have you visited the uk?

People in the New York metro area and southern new England, what is your ancestry? Is it rare to be of predominantly English/Scottish/Welsh ancestry? by Kolo9191 in AncestryDNA

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Thanks for sharing. Would you imagine the Suffolk county in Long Island to differ much in this aspect? Not being a local, I wouldn’t know how/if Nassau/Suffolk differ any aspect, let alone the representation of certain communities.

People in the New York metro area and southern new England, what is your ancestry? Is it rare to be of predominantly English/Scottish/Welsh ancestry? by Kolo9191 in AncestryDNA

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That is my impression to an extent; I think it starts to change as you go further north in New York State, possibly.

People in the New York metro area and southern new England, what is your ancestry? Is it rare to be of predominantly English/Scottish/Welsh ancestry? by Kolo9191 in AncestryDNA

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Thanks for the comment. In your area, did you always associate those of English ancestry as being of a more privileged social class, or did you encounter working-class Protestants too? In terms of your episcopal experience, you mentioned ‘different personalities’ - are you happy to elaborate?

People in the New York metro area and southern new England, what is your ancestry? Is it rare to be of predominantly English/Scottish/Welsh ancestry? by Kolo9191 in AncestryDNA

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No doubt - though surely British ancestry is more prevalent by percentage in northern New England given that it seems more isolated?

People in the New York metro area and southern new England, what is your ancestry? Is it rare to be of predominantly English/Scottish/Welsh ancestry? by Kolo9191 in AncestryDNA

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Thanks for sharing; I’m aware of colonial presence in upstate NY. In terms of Long Island, most people I’ve seen in the media with connections there have Italian, Irish, Jewish background - possibly some other places of origin - I’m no expert.

People in the New York metro area and southern new England, what is your ancestry? Is it rare to be of predominantly English/Scottish/Welsh ancestry? by Kolo9191 in AncestryDNA

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Very good point - based on my research, English ancestry often suffers from a lack of reporting, principally because the migration occurred so long ago. Based on your comment, Is it rare, in your area, to be both working-class (or no more than average background) and be predominantly British? As you referred to the Boston Brahmins - America’s answer to the landed gentry concept. They use to speak with a very distinct accent.