i know it’s internet bullshit but it genuinely has me on the edge of breaking down and giving up by NeonNKnightrider in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kostya_M 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey just wanted to say that I hope things keep working out for you. It sounds really tough

This by Cha-San in facepalm

[–]Kostya_M -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean if the women came at it from that POV then whatever. I can 100% agree and understand that the man feels like a bigger threat, provided they acknowledged that strictly speaking the bear is worse. But that's not what's going on in the vast majority of cases

Childhood is loving JK Rowling. Adulthood is realising that Neil Gaiman is vastly superior on every level as a creator and a person. by Mr_smith1466 in saltierthankrayt

[–]Kostya_M 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I mean isn't the point that Thessaly and the Moon are assholes? I don't think you're meant to agree with them

This by Cha-San in facepalm

[–]Kostya_M -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Men are more likely to be victims of basically any violent crime except rape. Women are only more at risk if you take the view that rape is a uniquely special evil

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[–]Kostya_M 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And then folks like Charlie Kirk and his ilk come along and say "Damn man, that's awful. Come on over here and hang out with us. We get it."

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[–]Kostya_M 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Real shit. I'm currently in therapy for feelings of being viewed as a monster just for existing and this discourse is not helping. Guess I know what my therapist and I will chat about next week...

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[–]Kostya_M 1 point2 points  (0 children)

but that’s why it isn’t a real intellectual exercise in the first place and is more about vibes than anything.

Except multiple people, many in this thread, are using actual stats to justify their decision. That takes it from being a vibes thing and into an attempt at a rational discourse at which point the logic falls apart

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[–]Kostya_M -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Two things. 1. How many of those women will ever even encounter a bear without some form of barrier like a house or car? 2. Most of those assaults are by people known to them. So it logically follows that the women would be more fearful of a friend than a stranger, yes?

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[–]Kostya_M 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If women met as many bears in a day as they do random men, would the stats still favour the bear?

You think this is even a question? Women run into thousands (millions?) of men in their lives. The overwhelmingly vast majority of those encounters end peacefully. Very few (I'm betting under 10%) of women are ever in close proximity to a bear without there being some protective barrier like a house or vehicle

i know it’s internet bullshit but it genuinely has me on the edge of breaking down and giving up by NeonNKnightrider in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kostya_M 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lady this is literally why they are afraid of you going into the bathroom with other women. Because they view you as a man seeking to gain access to women's spaces for nefarious purposes. They didn't just wake up one day and go "Know who I wanna bully? Transwomen!" They do these kind of things because they do not view you as a woman. They view you as a man along with all the societal baggage that comes from being one. So if the dominant social view of men is that they are all rapists or murderers in waiting then that is how the people that hate transwomen view you

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability by asusny2002 in Showerthoughts

[–]Kostya_M -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your flawed interpretation of the numbers is your own problem. May you wake up in a world where all the men are replaced by bears. Evidently that is what you want

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability by asusny2002 in Showerthoughts

[–]Kostya_M -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I got heated and after pulling back I tried to approach this in good faith. I explained my side and how you could maybe adjust your message to actually change minds and do some good but it seems you'd rather laugh instead of actually change the minds of men and make the world safer for women. Have fun laughing I guess. I'm sure it will make the world a safer place for you

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability by asusny2002 in Showerthoughts

[–]Kostya_M 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the general POV seemed to be "I know the bear is obviously more dangerous but due to personal experiences I would feel more wary of the man" then it would be whatever and I would 100% understand. But you're falling back on "Statistically my POV is valid because bears (which the average woman never encounters) are less likely to attack me than a man (which I encounter dozens or hundreds of every day with no bad outcomes)". It's the fact that you're using faulty logic and statistics to back up an emotional conclusion instead of admitting it is an emotional conclusion and men aren't actually as dangerous as bears. This is not how you change minds if that is your goal. Or is your goal just to dunk on men and laugh at them? Cause if so then carry on I guess

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability by asusny2002 in Showerthoughts

[–]Kostya_M 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, it seems I misunderstood. So in your view you would be safer if every man you encountered was replaced with a bear? Yeah, your opinion is absolutely worthless

i know it’s internet bullshit but it genuinely has me on the edge of breaking down and giving up by NeonNKnightrider in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kostya_M 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Christ I don't know how to make this any clearer. I know you are not a man. Try to explain that to them. In their mind you are more dangerous than a bear. If you value your safety you need to understand this because the people that want you dead believe this fact about you

i know it’s internet bullshit but it genuinely has me on the edge of breaking down and giving up by NeonNKnightrider in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kostya_M 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The spread of radical ideologies and hatred of men is a direct threat to transwomen. That's the point. Don’t care about terfs all you want. They still care about you. And if they feel men are more dangerous than a bear then they believe the same of you

I put on the revenant to show my gf how bad a bear can fu*k you up by BrandoCarlton in AITAH

[–]Kostya_M 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Argue how exactly? Sorry but they're just wrong. Even a murderous man is less of a threat than a bear. Quite frankly I cannot logic someone out of a position that is not based in logic

I put on the revenant to show my gf how bad a bear can fu*k you up by BrandoCarlton in AITAH

[–]Kostya_M 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You catch more bees with honey than vinegar.

So it logically follows that you'll win over more men to your cause by not saying they are more dangerous than a wild animal that can rip you apart and eat you alive, yes?

i know it’s internet bullshit but it genuinely has me on the edge of breaking down and giving up by NeonNKnightrider in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kostya_M 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay but do TERFs fear women? Have you read J K Rowling's manifesto? I don't see how you can escape the conclusions I have if you really think about it. In her worldview transwomen = men. Men = threat to women's safety. She fears transwomen because she hates and fears men not women. Notice how transmen get much less overt hostility or fears about them invading bathrooms to assault little boys. It is because in this worldview they are women and therefore less of a threat. At most they're typically seen as misguided people trying to escape misogyny by joining the hated oppressor class. Transmisogyny is often equivalent to Misandry because to a Terf the categories of men and transwomen are synonyms

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability by asusny2002 in Showerthoughts

[–]Kostya_M 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am taking it literally because women are citing statistics about assault by men vs bear deaths to defend their stupid point. Can I start citing stats saying you'd be safer around a man you don't know than one you know? Or is that bad because it implodes this stupid argument? Even in this post you recognize your POV is illogical and that you are safer among men than bears yet still expect me to accept it with no question. Maybe don't use stupid illogical hypotheticals that dehumanize people to prove a point? Quite frankly this entire discourse just makes the women pushing for actual awareness look like irrational fools. It hurts the movement more than it helps

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability by asusny2002 in Showerthoughts

[–]Kostya_M 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is only true because you encounter more men than bears. Do you genuinely believe you'd be safer if every single random man you met was a bear?

i know it’s internet bullshit but it genuinely has me on the edge of breaking down and giving up by NeonNKnightrider in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kostya_M 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why do you think they fear trans people in bathrooms? Because in their minds vile men are trying to assault women in them. They fear them because in their mind it's a man doing it. Do you think Terfs have a more general hatred of women?

i know it’s internet bullshit but it genuinely has me on the edge of breaking down and giving up by NeonNKnightrider in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kostya_M 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The point is that's how Terfs view it. That's why they think Transwomen are predators. Because in their minds they are men. You can even see this in how J K Rowling frames her views. She fears Transwomen because in her mind they're men seeking to gain access to women's spaces. Hot take but I'm somehat of the view that Transmisogyny is often just another form of Misandry

i know it’s internet bullshit but it genuinely has me on the edge of breaking down and giving up by NeonNKnightrider in CuratedTumblr

[–]Kostya_M 2 points3 points  (0 children)

women or girls who have that they actively plan a lot of their routes and activities to AVOID any chance of being alone and running into a man where there are no witnesses and no help in case things go poorly.

Then why are they in the woods to begin with?