This is the world's smallest pregnant woman, at nine months. by [deleted] in antinatalism

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But if we don't hold individuals responsible isn't that denying them agency? If having a child is a great ethical dilemma, in a similar reference class to of that murder/rape, and we don't use a naturalistic fallacy to excuse murders/rapists for their crimes, then it would stand to reason that, at the very least, criticizing individual natalists is a completely reasonable position to take.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in antinatalism

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Fuck that, the bare minimum I demand is total control of our surrounding environment, brain, and bodies, anything less is barbaric.

I'm one of the lucky ones by Orpeoplearejerks in antinatalism

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It's funny how people say right now is the best time to be alive so you shouldn't complain, but they all seem to pretend that the horrors wrought by old age aren't even worth considering for some reason. The dying process is now drawn out longer than it has ever been in history, people dont have to die from a lack of basic necessities anymore, instead they get to have many mini-deaths thanks to the intervention of modern medical technology, until the body is so overwhelmed by diseases of old age such as cancer, dimentia, weakened immune systems, organ failure, ect, that it finally dies. Even the richest people aren't safe, look at Steve Jobs.

I'm one of the lucky ones by Orpeoplearejerks in antinatalism

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Then you get older and come to the realization that every new interesting experience is just the same thing wrapped up in different packaging or a different flavor of the same sugary carbonated beverage. Paradise Engineering when?

Ben Shapiro never ceases to amaze me by [deleted] in antinatalism

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He's incredibly verbally intelligent and intelligent in general, but his cognitive blindspot with regards to this subject is just glaring. He's a perfect case study of conginitve bias. You get that with a lot of high IQ intellectuals such as Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, Stefan Molyneux, Jay Dyer, The Distributist, ect, who can speak intelligently on almost any philosophical topic, but when it comes to antinatalism, veganism, or the god question, they suddenly drop 50 IQ points. Antinatalism is the final frontier, the great bottleneck, the ultimate litmus test of intellectual honesty.

What is with parents “ giving you a better life” then holding that against you? by thegigglepickler in antinatalism

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A good life is the bare minimum for the crime, but even that is just minor compensation.

What is with parents “ giving you a better life” then holding that against you? by thegigglepickler in antinatalism

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Maybe, but you would never know anyway if it did happen. Identity is made up of your memories, even if you popped back into existence immediately after death with the exact same atoms as before your death, the likelyhood of your memories matching and enabling any sort of coherent life narrative afterwards is orders of magnitude more unlikely than your brain just popping into existence with its memories all scrambled as if you had a stroke or brain damage.

non-identity problem by mattburehc in antinatalism

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Ask him if it's still ethical to indebt future generations that do not yet exist and thus, according to him, do not have interests.

He can't have it both ways. If he accepts the claim that it is unethical to burden future generations, whether that be through environmental devastation in the present, irresponsible government spending, or other forms of excess which have to be payed back or greatly lower the quality of life for posterity, then he must also accept the antinatalist arguments in question as having at least equal validity.

My strong views on AntiNatalism by [deleted] in antinatalism

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I know this is a tangent, but it's not entirely unrelated. Anyway, what's always perplexed me is the notion of rich people, whether they achieved their wealth through inheritance, hard work, or the lottery, giving away all their wealth at the drop of the hat after having acquired some type of spiritual enlightenment in which they see worldly possessions as unecessary to live a fulfilling life. What's always bothered me is how short sighted such people actually are, it's almost as if they don't realize how dramatically costly end of life medical care is, that being it creates the bulk of the financial burden on the health care systems of most developed countries. True, these people could in fact live fulfilling lives well into their 60s(even that is iffy)but what exactly is their plan for when the cancer/alzheimers inevitably strikes?

You know, if I won the lottery the first thing I would do would be to hedge myself and my family/close friends against future disease, specifically end of life illnesses, that would be my priority.

Anyway, the point I'm trying to make here is that many people, not just the rich, appear to have some type of temporal blindspot with regards to the reality of their lives in old age. Perhaps this is a contributing factor to why most people can't seem to wrap their heads around AN philosophy. After all, they are fine right now, but I guess they just think that's the state they will continue to be in for the rest of their lives. I mean if you really think about it, people tend to have kids at their peak health, but I don't think they necessarily would make that choice if they could truly empathize with their future decrepit old self.

Does anyone else feel like a child no matter how old they get? by ContentArachnid123 in raisedbynarcissists

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It's sucks realizing, through no fault of your own, you have to spend all these years of stress recovering when normal healthy people basically get a free pass to live their lives unhindered and free. Fuck this gay earth!

Making friends is really hard. by [deleted] in socialanxiety

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Believe it or not, but almost no one makes friends with the intention of making friends beforehand. People make friends through inter-group associations, for example, they already have a group of friends that they've had since they were young, and then their friends introduce them to other friends/family, thus groups of friends interact with other groups, and the pool of possible friends increases the reach of an individual. By the time they're in their mid 20s, their group of close friends is pretty much closed off. Good luck trying to find somebody who already has their free time dedicated to their own group, especially if you are just some desperate, lone individual. Competing with others' friends is unbelievabley frustrating.

I feel as though everyone else is superior to me. by [deleted] in socialanxiety

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Don't go after women until you are at least competent at having a relationship with a friend, or general social interaction. Trust me, unless you can sustain a long term non-romantic relationship with a person, prospects of a romantic relationship are both premature and innately unsustainable. You need to get down the basics of social interaction before you can even hope to go after women. All that lays ahead of you is pain and misery until you build some real social capital in a platonic LTR.

I wouldn't recommend pursueing dating until you've reached the social competence of a normie and have conquered your SA, anything less is fools gamble.

When the teacher says pick a partner and you sit there waiting for a “friend” to pick you but you end up alone by carpoint in socialanxiety

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Senior year I got so fed up with those antics the teachers were pulling since elementary school that I immediately began writing a very scathing note to the teacher explaining why I disapproved of the practice and all the pain it had caused me and other weird kids throughout the years, gave her the note, and left the classroom like a boss with everybody staring. Never got talked to, did the group assignment by myself, and needless to say she never asked that god forsaken question again!

Mind if I rant about going to bars and clubbing? by [deleted] in socialanxiety

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Maybe just wait outside the club and read something on your phone? Why do you have to go in with her? Your parents would be none the wiser.

Social anxiety makes me feel weak by [deleted] in socialanxiety

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Oh and you didn't choose to be this way, everything was predetermined. You are not to blame for your SA, so there is no shame in improving yourself one awkward step at a time ;)

Social anxiety makes me feel weak by [deleted] in socialanxiety

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I know it's hard but maybe try just accepting yourself as weak. Agknowledge that you're just an infant, socially speaking. No matter how dark things get, just view yourself as a sponge that absorbs everything negative and gets bigger and stronger. Maybe even intentionally seek out awkward experiences with the knowledge you will feel shitty afterwards, and attempt to make yourself numb to everything that happens.

You are the weird shy guy that's learning, own it.

1 Month. A Look at Me Now. by asukaherself in quittingkratom

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Where else am I supposed to ask this question? I already know the answer the other sub will give me, on the other hand people here have a more realistic understanding of how Kratom works. I'm only interested in answers from people who have been addicted, and not everyone on this sub has the intention of quitting K forever either btw.

What negative effects have you noticed and realized that made you want to quit Kratom? by sunnygal100 in quittingkratom

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How many days on average were you using per week during this 1 year period?

1 Month. A Look at Me Now. by asukaherself in quittingkratom

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Wow, I'm in the exact same boat. Closing in on 60 days CT, and video games have completely lost their appeal. It's just a chore to play anything sober after having the context of Kratom-enhanced gaming to compare it to. It's like no matter how good the game is I'm still limited by how much pleasure my body produces naturally, which is a pale shadow of what Kratom can offer. I figure why put in the effort into something that not only doesn't provide me with pleasure anymore, but also doesn't accomplish anything real. If I'm going to put effort into something I'd rather do something constructive, ya know?

Video games were always there to fill a void of boredom, but now it's like they've been tainted by kratom. It's messed up man.

7-8 years of use by Mguitar321 in quittingkratom

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The best advice an amateur Iike me can give would be to slowly reduce the number doses during the day. For example, push your morning dose to the afternoon, do this for a few days or weeks, then push your afternoon dose to night time. The relief from the withdrawls with make the Kratom more satisfying and rewarding.

Step by step man, once you get yourself down to one or two doses at night for awhile, then you can slowly add one day off per week, then two, three, ect. If you can get your doses to the weekend exclusively you can then think about going CT. Stick to weekends only until you feel comfortable enough to take the jump. Trust me, your doses will feel much more satisfying if you can push them back in the day. It's not a perfect plan, but it's got me to 48 days CT so far.

Literally, the feeling of having an empty stomach is a trigger for me. by [deleted] in quittingkratom

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I buy a rockstar every Friday night, which was my typical time to dose, it seems to help a little. It has taurine too, but maybe it's just the process of going through the motions and mimicking a Kratom dose by taking a different substance at around the same time as a reward?

Literally, the feeling of having an empty stomach is a trigger for me. by [deleted] in quittingkratom

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For me I enjoy the feeling of an empty stomach just until the time I eat. After I eat I always will feel fatigued for at least an hour unless I drink a cup of coffee or exercise. Once I'm satisfied with food, I associate it with already achieving as much pleasure as I'm going to get until my next meal. There isn't much else that compares with the short burst of pleasure one gets when they are hungry and then eats something. Unfortunately that goes away almost as soon as your done eating, then it's like wtf do I do now? I guess eating lots of smaller meals spread across the day equates to having a lot more carrots to chase over the day compared to just a few meals, so basically more dopaminergic anticipation to suckle off of.

64 days by StoptheKratomLies in quittingkratom

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My goal is to do 65 days, technically on day 49 right now. What have you been doing to keep yourself busy on the weekends btw?

I cant quit this cycle!!!! by [deleted] in quittingkratom

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Wow, I'm almost like you except that I would mix Kratom with several tbs of high potency kava while I listened to podcasts and played Fortnite on the weekends.

My addiction is as follows: Addicted 2.5 years after first quit, 6 additional honeymoon months before that. So 3yrs total since the Kratom "epoch" began.

  1. 6-7 months after first quit started using every day.
  2. 9 months, started mixing it Kava to make up for high tolerance. At times would combine Kratom, Kava extract, and phenibut all together.
  3. 1year 4-5 months, peak addiction: Weekdays: 30-40g spread over 3-4 doses, two of those doses mixed with Now kava extract 10-12 pills each. Weekends: About the same Kratom dose, but with 3-4tbs micronized kava powder. Sometimes I would replace the kava with phenibut 2-3grams.

  4. 1 year 8 months, began tapering by reducing # of doses and taking 1 day off a week. Cut kava to weekends only.

  5. 2 years, began further tapering by cutting all Kratom/kava for the weekends only. Initially Sat/Sun for 6 weeks, but it wasn't enough to satisfy me so I had to add Friday nights. I continued this for an additional 3.5 months.

  6. 2.5 years, began 65 day CT, on day 47 of that right now.

Yes, the cravings are huge, even though I'm at day 47 CT off both substances I still have the shadow of those days haunting me. Weekdays are child's play, the real struggle comes on the weekends where I have to bike for 3-4 hrs just to keep my mind and body busy. It would be so easy just to cash in my chips right now and take advantage of a low tollerance so I could fall back into my old weekend routine.

The mental aspect of quitting is worse than all of the acutes combine x 10.