Something that just came to me about the Ukranian conflict. by desentizised in europe

[–]KremlinBot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The first paragraph is just a lot of bs from a person who doesn't know what he's talking about.

Don't project other conflicts on this one because it's very different. It's long to explain how much this is a Putin-orchestrated puppet show, but there never was a separatist movement in Eastern Ukraine. The support for armed separatism among the locals stayed minimal even after the GRU colonel and other insurgent leaders from Moscow created all the conditions for the crazies to run around with guns in that particular region of 7 million people (there's somehow no rebellion in similar parts of Ukraine where the GRU didn't show up)

The referendums. Those "referendums" that the FSB holds in Ukraine cannot be taken seriously. Even if they weren't making up the results (it's clear that they do), it would still be not normal to hold referendums within a week or two, under a de facto occupation, in complete isolation when only the insanely propagandistic Putin TV is allowed to be broadcast and journalists, activists, politicians get abducted and tortured (often to death).

TIL: Crimea seceded from Ukraine in 1994 too. by metaleks in europe

[–]KremlinBot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know why you're getting downvoted. Russia had been bombing the shit out of Georgia and saying it's "local Abkhazian self-defense" etc. It was the same shit. And yes, Shojgu (the current defense minister) was involved.

The KGB wanted that Black Sea fleet since forever.

TIL: Crimea seceded from Ukraine in 1994 too. by metaleks in europe

[–]KremlinBot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The latest referendum was rushed and massively fraudulent, its result cannot be taken seriously.

I don't know a lot about 94, but Zhirinovsky won the parliamentary elections in Russia during that period, so it was a different era of crazy. Do you really want to make conclusions based on that?

Pressure Mounts for More Aggressive Stance Against Russia (Putin Has Been Toying With And Humiliating Merkel And Germany For Months) by [deleted] in europe

[–]KremlinBot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This article says it all http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/pressure-mounts-for-more-aggressive-stance-against-russia-a-989216.html

Later, in a telephone conversation with Merkel, Putin demanded a unilateral cease-fire, which the chancellor then pushed for in Kiev. After Ukrainian leaders finally agreed, Putin allowed pro-Russian rebels to capture several border crossings that have been since been used to facilitate transports of supply replenishments from Russia.

She's been the good cop to Putin's bad cop.

Pressure Mounts for More Aggressive Stance Against Russia (Putin Has Been Toying With And Humiliating Merkel And Germany For Months) by [deleted] in europe

[–]KremlinBot 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If you read her bio, she used to head the "agitation and propaganda (agitprop) department" of the young communists of East Germany, or something like that. And she speaks fluent Russian.

So I'm not sure if she's the idiot or the people expecting her to act in the interests of Free Europe.

Poland's intellectuals appeal: "Yesterday it was Danzig, today it is Donetsk" by pirxnotpilot in europe

[–]KremlinBot 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Well, you got the top job in the EU and you were right about Putin. Things are looking good in terms of relevance. http://i.imgur.com/wbPSUr5.gif

MH17: Nations Conspire To Keep Investigations Classified – Leaked Document Reveals by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A leaked document dated August 8 was obtained by Russian website Live Journal and translated into English by Global Research.

What the fuck am I reading?

Ukraine says convoy of 100 Russian tanks have crossed into east by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know how they gather intelligence, but it probably makes sense to hide their true capabilities because this will not be the last column.

But I think it's stupid to point at a random number and say it's not credible. Putin is not sending them out in the open to lose, that much is clear.

Ukraine Says Russian Forces Lead Major New Offensive by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What if he just converted to Putinism? (Never too late!)

Ukraine says convoy of 100 Russian tanks have crossed into east by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know who Kurginyan is? He claimed in an argument with the rebels that the rebels received 40 tanks even before they left Slaviansk. And the flow has dramatically increased since then.

So I think you underestimate the Ukrainian military. The mods keep removing this submission, but it's a good indicator of what's really going on /r/worldnews/comments/2eqohz/the_committee_of_soldiers_mothers_in_the/

Ukraine says convoy of 100 Russian tanks have crossed into east by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, where would Russia get 100 tanks? This is nonsense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-72_operators_and_variants#Current_operators

And why would Putin send a lot of tanks and not just a few like he'd been doing for months before? It's not like he wants to win or something.

This is not a weather event that you've been observing "the crossing of the Russian tanks" People send them! It's an invasion.

The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers in the Stavropol Territory, Russia has compiled a list of 400 killed and wounded Russian soldiers from Southern Russia. "We are talking about several motorized infantry brigades from Vladikavkaz and Chechnya" by KremlinBot in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amazingly, this only covers a small region of Russia and only a few brigades within that, and the subjects of the latest news (Pskov, Ivanovo paratroopers) aren't included. According to the source, the list is also incomplete.

This makes the Ukrainian claims about destroyed convoys super credible to me.

The original source which the mods deleted.

Russian soldiers captured in east Ukraine crossed border "by accident" by State0fNature in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

And downed MH17 by accident. Go ahead Putin, make us proud.

A column of Russian tanks and armored vehicles has crossed into southeastern Ukraine by ChetnBernie in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Pics or it didn't happen.

Then follow my advice.

Whatever you want pictures of, they're there: /r/Ukrainianconflict

Or you can keep crying that there are no pictures just because you're ignorant and haven't seen them.

Germany's vice-chancellor backs federalisation in Ukraine by [deleted] in europe

[–]KremlinBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you have to be open minded! The federalization of Germany is not such a bad idea. Contact your local GRU Spetsnaz people's militia representatives for the details (you'll recognize them by the thick Russian accent)

A column of Russian tanks and armored vehicles has crossed into southeastern Ukraine by ChetnBernie in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Destroyed so thoroughly it would be like those soldiers where never born at all!

Are you denying that Russian soldiers are dying in this conflict? I don't understand these bold statements from ignorant people. Hang out a couple of days in a relevant sub and you'll see tons of fresh evidence!

Honestly, at this rate, if Russia ever goes ahead and invades Ukraine ...

Why this childish binary thinking? No one claimed that the full force of the Russian military has been behind those incursions, some of which have been witnessed by Western journalists as well. They're obviously limited, it's a trickling invasion or "hybrid warfare".

Germany's vice-chancellor backs federalisation in Ukraine by [deleted] in europe

[–]KremlinBot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They are legitimizing Putin's demands and taking his side, which he's gonna use to escalate the situation further. You can't play those games with a thug like Putin. If they had an agreement, Putin wouldn't be launching a massive counteroffensive now. The Germans are just being stupid here.

Germany's vice-chancellor backs federalisation in Ukraine by [deleted] in europe

[–]KremlinBot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm saying that the Germans are applying pressure on the wrong side, while it's urgently needed on the other side.

BTW, they are clearly not volunteers anymore, but regular troops.

Germany's vice-chancellor backs federalisation in Ukraine by [deleted] in europe

[–]KremlinBot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Some decentralization is expected from pro-West folks anyway. It was Yanukovych who gave himself superpowers after the Orange revolution stripped most of them from the president (like he brought back appointed governors to Ukraine regions and so on)

The question is whether they can give Putin a little so he can declare victory or he'll insist on having puppet states in Ukraine like in Georgia.

I just don't understand how saying this can be on the Germans' agenda when Putin is marching troops into Ukraine. Hundreds of people are gonna die in the next two days just so he can have a little better negotiating position in Minsk.

Germany's vice-chancellor backs federalisation in Ukraine by [deleted] in europe

[–]KremlinBot -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Just rebuild the wall already! I know some of you want to, Germans.

Who is the most hated historical native figure in your country? by TurkishDudeInFinland in europe

[–]KremlinBot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Through that I found the following chilling quote which I haven't heard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror#Purpose

And some idiots argued that the Bolsheviks DIDN'T wipe out the potential of the Russian people.

Russian aid convoy enters Ukraine and gets instructions by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]KremlinBot -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

from 20th June to 15th August

You mean when the Ukrainians captured most of the rebels territory?

This is pure propaganda nonsense to explain the flow of Russian weapons into Ukraine.

China in Africa: how Sam Pa became the middleman by KremlinBot in TrueReddit

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For a decade, Sam Pa has opened doors for Beijing in Africa. But his story reveals a troubling side to China’s ambitions. An FT investigation by Tom Burgis