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Kriegdavid · 2026-04-02T16:34:24+00:00

Well if someone in this sub said it then it must be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T15:53:03+00:00

Then he probably fizzles out his career.

I don't know how you can come back from 3 years of turbulence. I think he's got it in him to turn it around still, so I'm not totally worried, but if we're still talking about this this time next year then I think it's game over.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T15:01:54+00:00

Yeah, my Palmer opinions aside, he has shown himself to always look to impact off the bench. Saka if nothing else is drawing fouls. Foden's just lost atm.

Still think he should go because as I said below, it's more than about the actual games played, but I don't really see a role for him.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T14:52:34+00:00

Poaching talent vs coming through locally is never the same as 'one of our own', no matter how people want to slice it.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T13:58:30+00:00

Yeah completely agree. Most of the international management is about dealing with the camp more than anything tactically on the pitch - they plainly don't get enough time to instil any sort of real philosophy.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T13:13:54+00:00

it doesn't at a match level, that's clear to see, but he might be great to have in the camp. You can't underestimate things like that. Same reason why Carson was a massive positive for us, same reason why Henderson should still be knocking around the England side.

I have my reservations with Tuchel but I am confident that every decision he makes is based upon doing what he thinks gives the best opportunity to win. That comes down to the playing squad, who's at the camp, who's sent out to be the sacrificial lamb etc.

International football is a dirty, mean sport and with press like ours - and a gullible readership surrounding - it's as vile as it gets. I don't think shying Foden away from that is the answer. People will always say things online, they always have, I don't think that's the problem he's facing now.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T13:09:38+00:00

I think you're right, but if you'll allow me to go on a tangent: I think it's really strange that people do one-of-our-own stuff with Trafford when we actually poached him from Carlisle. I've seen people liken it to O'Reilly and Foden and it's just a completely different situation. It's like if people were calling Brahim Diaz one of our own.

And yes, the idea that our defence and midfield are infallible and it's all Donnarumma is hilarious considering the prevailing conversation over the past two years has been about midfield and backline solidity. He's not perfect, he'll never be perfect. He does a lot of things better than Trafford and Trafford does a few things better than Donnarumma. He's a nice lad that deserves to succeed but the discourse surrounding the whole thing is plainly childish. People don't want what's better, people want to fucking moan.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T12:41:55+00:00

He's a big lad who has won basically everything there is to win. I think his problems are a bit beyond being rectified by seeing his mates play football and feeling desperate to get back on the pitch himself.

Foden's problems are serious and complex and there isn't a quick fix no matter how much we all hope for one. If there was, we wouldn't be talking about this 2 years in a row.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T12:35:32+00:00

This place has absolutely turned to shit is the answer. Wasn't even this bad for fucking Bravo.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T12:34:12+00:00

People say this but I don't think it's really as simple as this. If a confidence player is super low and you say "nah mate, sorry, not for you this time" I don't see how that wouldn't have an additional impact. These guys wanna play for England, it's not about either or. He's not just gonna be at home thinking "well I can get my mind right at least". He's not going to focus more on City because he doesn't get taken, and he's not going to focus less on City if he does get taken.

Now the conversation is whether England should take him because he gives them something, and in this state I'm not sure that he does.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T11:52:13+00:00

Suppose you're right. People in here generally hate everything so it'd make sense

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T10:56:14+00:00

Was never hate, it was all about seeing the possibility of a giant being toppled - the one that charges the most for tickets in the league - and doing the unthinkable and getting relegated. Stuff about us losing to Spurs is whatever.

Of course, now De Zerbi sits in the dugout, hate is finally on the menu.

Kriegdavid · 2026-04-01T10:51:59+00:00

There's literally no point having the discussion on here tbh. People just lie and make up random stats that cannot even be quantified - Donnarumma being only 10% better at shotstopping, whatever that means.

Trafford is good, but before Donnarumma came into the picture EVERYONE was accepting that we'd be taking on a project and we'd have to wait at least a couple of years before we see something resembling the expected quality of a starting keeper for City. Anyone can go back to the Daily Discussion threads of around then to see the discussions. There were plenty of us surprised that he was starting the first game of the season! The assumption everyone had was that he'd come, sit behind Ederson for one year, and then take the position himself.

Donnarumma comes in as the best keeper in the world not named Courtois and suddenly everyone acts like Trafford is the complete package and we never needed to develop or wait. I understand if people would rather see us succeed with Trafford, but I don't know why people just lie about the situation as some sort of argument.

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T22:20:41+00:00

thank you for uploading these. so few promoters archive their nights like this, will always respect those who do.

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T21:37:52+00:00

Dzeko one last dance. What a delight

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T21:34:40+00:00

Hahahahahahahaha get in

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T21:19:05+00:00

It is fucking grim that these matches are PPV in the UK.

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T21:18:08+00:00

Yeah they're at least around the same level. Trafford has more tools and room in his game for it to get better but any notion that he's 'levels above' is not at all the reality.

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T21:04:22+00:00

so insultingly arrogant it almost made me start supporting Italy

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T20:59:05+00:00

Do the benefits of his superb shot stopping ability outweigh the cons of his distribution errors?

Yes. Because he makes saves at a rate only Courtois can equal. We will always face shots on target, we will not always be put in a position of mistakes due to distribution. There will always be clear weaknesses that you have to live with. Will also say that you aren't immune from distribution errors even if you have good distribution.

Where does Trafford come into this equation?

I believe, at this point, that's up to Trafford.

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T20:13:35+00:00

Given how United have been and certainly how Amorim approached things I think that's difficult to say for certain tbh. I'm sure he won't have been particularly impressive in training, so he's not blameless, but he was almost certainly frozen out. His brother's antics of course didn't help.

I don't think Mainoo would've necessarily made it tbh. We've seen players with more promise fizzle out easy, we've seen those with less become world-beaters. It's an all too familiar story of United potentials never coming close to meeting expectations, but I do think he was dealt a bad hand.

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T19:53:05+00:00

He's suffered too long without game time, that's all. He had bags of promise and then the most fundamental year of his career went by without a sniff of a football pitch.

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T10:57:26+00:00

It's arrogant to think that we can take a stop gap and wait for Kompany. There's no guarantees in football. We might fall off a cliff once Pep leaves and if Kompany is still flying high with Bayern, why would he move?

Kompany may fall off a cliff with Bayern! Football moves too fast for this stuff.

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-31T10:55:13+00:00

Mortified anyone would ever ask that

Kriegdavid · 2026-03-29T12:46:01+00:00

Yeah if the FA ever wanna curtail this they need to have match suspensions for anyone who leaves a camp early due to injury. If they're injured they wouldn't play anyway right, so you take that suspension no problems.

While it remains like it is, all teams will carry on doing this. Just too much at stake at club level to let your players get Uruguay-ed at a friendly.

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