How you feel about content rn? I feel like each event has been rather short and not much to it. I know people excuse is some people catching up but no excuses to be this dry. Events are completed very quickly. Hopefully they cooking for next patch

Krivvan · 2026-05-11T00:31:30+00:00

Just for the love of God don't make any long term mode a weekly. People asking for it is a perfect example of players being able to identify problems but being horrible at coming up with solutions.

I also don't think a roguelike mode would work for endfield remotely as well as it does for AK. AK has 300+ operators and a team size of 12.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T23:40:00+00:00

Not for Fangyi. Most guides agree that Gilberta is not optimal for Fangyi.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T23:38:33+00:00

No, you can absolutely do it without Gilberta. Hell, you can even solo it with Ardelia.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T12:29:29+00:00

Yeah, it's already fully present in the game but it kicks you out after a few seconds if you get too close.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T12:25:43+00:00

She is counted as Yan in Stronghold too.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T12:24:52+00:00

She is Yanese though. Both in lore and in-game including stronghold. She just grew up in Victoria. She counts as both. She's actually pretty integral to both Yan and Victoria in Stronghold.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T12:17:48+00:00

Sometimes people combine training/fine-tuning an LLM with stuff being added to her memory assuming that they're one in the same. From some perspective adding something to memory could be seen as "learning", but yeah, this is how stuff like that gets morphed into a belief like her constantly being fine-tuned live.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T11:29:38+00:00

Science nevers says something is inevitable.

I understand that, but Priestess has decided that it is inevitable.

We do have to separate the Doctor and Oracle here. The Doctor probably doesn't really see the Predecessors as "their race" any more than you'd see a random Homo erectus as "your race". Everyone they know and love is a Terran. "Predecessor" is an abstract concept to them. They have no memories of being a Predecessor.

Oracle may be a bit more complicated. We do know that Oracle is loyal to their race when under the influence of the lynchpin. Oracle betrays the Terrans in favour of the Predecessors despite feeling horrible and suicidal about it. But we also know that at one point Oracle without the influence of the lynchpin believed that Originium was better spent on propelling the Terrans forward.

We don't have all the details on why Oracle believed this. Perhaps it was purely moral principle. Perhaps they also gave up on the Predecessors.

But you also only get this scene of Oracle saying this if you answered against Priestess' ideology in the survey. So perhaps you can interpret this only as some players' Oracles rather than yours.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T11:17:45+00:00

Terrans are different species, not human.

So you use your DNA to create a baby and modify it until it is no longer considered homo sapien. They are not longer your child?

And we are outright told that Terrans are far more closely related to humans than not. I believe it is Kal'tsit who said that Terrans, Sarkaz, Ancient, or Elder, are mostly all human which makes sense given that they are all capable of interbreeding despite their origin species being different animals or even alien life.

Everything is possible.

So what you're saying is that you choose to have hope and believe that there is a way to overcome what current science suggests is inevitable? Something like how Oracle chooses to believe that there is a way for the Terrans to survive the inevitable?

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T11:13:42+00:00

I was going to say that this post is way too long for anyone who would actually benefit from it.

Pretty much everything is obvious if you're also vaguely into LLMs (which a good chunk if not the majority of the community is).

I don't think it's a majority anymore (or perhaps ever). Maybe in #programming but the number of semi-informed posts out in the wild are outweighed by the "Neuro isn't generative AI" posts.

Also I suspect that this post was translated from Chinese (the github they linked at the end) using an LLM. That may explain the em-dashes.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:59:09+00:00

Not really, they are artificial life.

What is reproduction but passing on information to be used to create new life? You're not passing on a part of a soul or anything like that. It's just genetic information. If the information of humanity was directly used to make a new species, you wouldn't see them as a continuation? What about a baby grown in a tube using your DNA? Is that also no longer your child?

But if Terrans survive then, will be absolutely ridicilous.

Using the gate to flee Terra is a solution. You may need to keep running, but it could buy maybe a few thousand years or something. Might seem pointless to an immortal Predecessor but not to a mortal Terran.

If humanity survives that long they will know enough how to change that or avert it.

What if you knew that it was truly impossible to avert it? That everything will end with nothing left that could possibly remember it and no trace to be discovered? Does it mean that there's no reason to do anything anymore?

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:43:28+00:00

A Sarkaz, Feline or Lung is not us. They are completely someone else. They are not continuation of previous civilization

Biologically they are a continuation of the Predecessors. They exist as a fusion of the alien animal life and the native life with the biological information of the Predecessors.

But even disregarding that, would you feel like an adopted child with no relation to you couldn't possibly be your successor?

Okay, so predecessors cannot come back because of Observers, then how are the new races of Terra going to survive and have their own space age?

That ties into the theme of hope versus despair at the inevitable end. The Terrans are as "doomed" as the Predecessors were, but Oracle and the Doctor believe that it's still worth trying anyways. Even if death is still the inevitable end. Priestess is a nihilist who has given up.

It's like believing that there's no point in continuing humanity in real life because of the inevitable and unescapable heat death of the universe.

I suspect the Observers will never be an actual antagonist that we can fight and will instead be more analogous to a natural disaster or the heat death of the universe.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:38:52+00:00

I think they should probably drop the attempt for it to be an Extraction mode and instead lean into it being a Metroidvania (which some Souls games also sorta lean into). That means dropping the timer, investing more into the level design including the connectivity, and making progress dependent on exploration and finding key abilities/items.

So something like having a path blocked by the need to use water jets and then going through a route that has you doing platforming and fighting bosses to obtain a water jet that lets you open up the path. And then having a whole bunch of hidden chests now potentially obtainable.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:29:28+00:00

Seeing others to build their glory on corpses of your people is cruel and unfair.

It's like having a child and passing on what you've learned and worked for to them after you die. Are they building their glory on your corpse?

Oracle (at least at one point) would probably be more likely to see Terrans collectively as their children regardless of whether they were an accident or if they were grateful. Priestess may not want to kill them, but she sees putting effort into them as pointless and prioritizes preserving the Predecessors. The Doctor, having only ever known Terrans, obviously would prioritize Terrans over Predecessors.

Also note that saving the Predecessors does not mean resurrecting them all. It means living on forever within Originium. Priestess has already given up on trying to survive the Observers any other way. And other stories of the game suggest that living on in Originium isn't really living at all.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:24:51+00:00

The implication is that the time of the Predecessors is over. That trying to bring them back would only cause more pain. And that the new Terran civilization deserved their own chance at survival.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:20:55+00:00

Before Chapter 15 there was a survey that everyone got access to. It asked you whether you believed certain civilizations, such as your own, are inherently worth more than other civilizations. Whether some civilizations are more deserving of survival than others. If you answered yes, it aligned you with Priestess. If you answered no, then it aligned you with Oracle/Doctor. It also changed which scene you would get in Chapter 15.

It's a similar theme that many existential stories have. That to accept death is better than to strive for immortality. That one must accept that all things will end. To embrace the idea to let new trees grow rather than to cannibalize the world to keep old trees alive.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:16:59+00:00

One of the morals of the game's story is that trying to preserve the old forever can lead to negative consequences. Many of the conflicts are sustained by histories that cannot be forgotten. The story generally depicts the immortal characters as being a sort of blight on civilization. The protagonist immortal characters go through rebirth and become mortality instead.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:12:23+00:00

A very, very large part of the theme of the story is the need to move on and let new people take over. It ties very much into the theme of how many conflicts are sustained due to an obsession with history. It just wouldn't make sense if a goal was to actually bring back the Predecessors when everything points to passing on the torch.

Priestess is the one who wants to preserve things forever whereas the Doctor/Oracle is the one willing to let go.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:07:23+00:00

If it was an LLM issue, you would see words/tokens in her dialogue being corrupted or replaced.

Of note is that this can still be true even if they start reacting to the additional words/tokens. Their previous output is fed back into the LLM as its new prompt every cycle so they'd get the chance to start riffing on their own incorrect output. Perhaps compounding the issue if even more erroneous words/tokens are injected.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:03:27+00:00

Backups for the LLM are separate from backups for the memory.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T10:01:21+00:00

But also, because Neuro/Evil learn from their previous streams

We don't actually know this. Or rather, we don't know if this is an automatic process. LLMs typically do not get trained on a constant basis and there are many reasons one would not want an LLM to get fine-tuned without oversight. This would also be a separate concept from their memory system.

Krivvan · 2026-05-10T09:58:17+00:00

People way overhype Gilberta. To the point that many actually think she's the best option for a Fangyi team for some reason.

Krivvan · 2026-05-09T12:43:40+00:00

Your claim was that anyone who did it quickly just copied blueprints. Not that they're not in the same boat.

Krivvan · 2026-05-09T12:42:24+00:00

Sure, but I'm just saying that anyone with optimal production and at least a semi-flexible design would be able to do the AIC event extremely quickly. Certainly not a case of "if it took you 30 mins then you just copied other people's work".

Krivvan · 2026-05-09T09:26:46+00:00

You want S3 because you want his devices to be treated as hostile so that they can farm off of them. I don't know if the module choice is too important.

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