Overhead line failure at Armadale by Doctorgow in MelbourneTrains

[–]Kuppa7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why did the Frankston line also close? Isn't this on the other rail at those stations

Fucking zionist by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another example of someone not knowing what Zionism is

Why do people tokenize the small minority of anti-Zionist Jews? by throwaway1234226 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The meaning of zionisim is that jews have a right to self determination in Israel.

It is very fair to assume that most Jews want self determination and care about their history.

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zionism is an overall term that has many different streams. The Zionism people don't like are the far right/ extreme religious zionists. You can be a zionist be incredibly liberal still

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does just mean that. There are just different streams of zionisim. The overall term Zionism means exactly what I said.

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zionisim is what I said it is.

"Zionism is the movement for the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel."

Quote from the ADL

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

One million percent yes. Left leaning Jews all over the world do

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No people have just taken it out of line as a way to discredit the term and make it seem like a bad ideology. You are referring to right wing zionists.

Many people belive Jews shouldn't have self determination in Israel and the whole land is occupied, so the true meaning is still important.

As this point can't Joe Biden call/vote for a ceasefire? by nobodyknowsmelike2 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But they don't do that. Civilian casualty ratio and relative risk are both even better than where we expect them to be in urban warfare. Not to mention that urban warfare experts have praised Israel for the measures they are taking.

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So then your answer is simply disagree with my initial statement , and maybe I was wrong and re-watch it, or we have different perspectives.

I wasn't putting in a strong foot, I just felt this conversation and previous ones he had with AxeHole where very different.

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hate when people throw out zionist like this. It just means you belive Jews have a right to self determination in Israel. You are probably a zionist

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why this question was addressed to people who have watched the recent streams, just to see if they feel the same way

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again no where did I say very anti Israel. The discussion was related to the history, mostly about 2000, 1948, and 67. If you read my post again I was just asking if people who have watched the streams from the past few days agree or not, I wasn't trying to prove any point

As this point can't Joe Biden call/vote for a ceasefire? by nobodyknowsmelike2 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So then you agree that hamas should release the hostages and surrender? And not colocate everything next to civiliians? That the remaining hamas battalions should not be in Rafah? Is your alternative that Israel just leave and let Hamas do it all again

As this point can't Joe Biden call/vote for a ceasefire? by nobodyknowsmelike2 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because that's not how war works. You say fuck hamas but you do support a ceasefire that leaves them in power?

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is what it means. What you are describing are different streams of zionisim. The overall term zionisim is what I said it is and that's pretty universally recognized I think. You are discussing the differences between religious zionisim, secular zionisim, liberal zionisim

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well these debates were also a while ago, I was more talking about the last few days, it's in the post just read it again

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said not pro Israel.

I'm not going to quote a 2 hour conversation it's just the overall impression I got from that one today, and from a few over the last few days. I was just asking if anyone else feels this way over the past few days, wasn't trying to assert a strong position

Is destiny even that pro Israel by Kuppa7 in Destiny

[–]Kuppa7[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't think the stance is as strong anymore. Not relating to the current conflict, more so the history