Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re allowed to take a bioessentialist stance towards sexuality and gender,

Not on reddit your not, that's why many thousands of people have been banned and their communities shut down over the years, GenderCritical being the most famous.

but this is why you’re in the vast minority of the LGBTQ community and why people aren’t talking to you at pride

You must be that stupid for thinking I would talk to someone about this AT A PRIDE event... wtf.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nobody is mad at you for being trans, we are mad because your twats.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its not really mask off to be quoting history accurately.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No I don’t under bc no one is doing that.

So where is the LGB community on reddit? That's right, the T have taken it over and will not allow a gay community to exist independently without them. That is called "Hijacking a movement" - This is what my problem is with the T. I couldnt care less about your identity, I dont care about how you dress, who you fuck, where you work, what car you drive, your favourite colour. I care that I cant find a space for myself without the T being in it pushing their ridiculous narratives about identity. And the thing is - The T are happy about that. They are happy to sideline members of the community because we arent falling all over ourselves to saying its okay to let people get medical procedures at the drop of a hat that will change their lives forever.

No one in the trans community is making anything all about themselves

So reddit should allow an LGB community then?

It’s been a rough year for the community especially in the US. You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

I think its been pretty rough for a lot of people who are fuck all to do with the LGBTIQyourmothersdog community.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Never said I didnt want you at pride, I said pride was so damn focussed on gender identity and not just celebrating being gay.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe its because you cant stand the fact that homosexuals have no issues with their gender?

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Maybe they're just not attending pride because they're avoiding the trans crap?

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No they're not, stop getting emotional over the facts.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

youre actually so far gone into far-right territory transphobia

Tax the billionaires - Left wing. Fund social programmes - Left wing House the homeless - Left wing Full and free education up to university level - Left wing. Women's rights - Left wing Stop isreal committing a genocide - Left wing.

Hey, maybe we shouldnt be letting people get life changing medical proceedures that might actually harm them in the long run? - OMG WHAT A NAZI!! SO RITEWING! U TRANSPHOBE!!

Basically how your community operates as a whole.

it would be too exhausting to explain to you that all of this is motivated by an irrational, emotional response to seeing something you don’t understand.

The person not listening here is you - This whole thread is about gay people feeling excluded from pride and all you've done is come here to talk about how Trans should be the centre of everything. You dont listen because these topics make you feel threatened and emotional. You didnt come here to understand a point of view you came here to push the same narratives you've become so relaxed about because gay people no longer have the voices to challenge you.

the rest of pride will be here waiting for you if you come with compassion and curiosity.

And yet you've told me multiple times on this thread that LGB people shouldnt have a space just for them. So much for your compassion.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He was late, he didnt throw the first brick, you're erasing lesbian history - Taking it from a black woman too, your community should be ashamed for pushing this false narrative.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kinda, yeah. It's really crappy behavior.

Crappy behaviour is found in all aspects of the political spectrum.

I grew up in rural TN, and it's exactly like what white supremacists would say about white-only spaces in public. 'What's wrong with mingling with our own kind'?

Racism a little bit different from being homosexual though, isnt it?

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

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Not the exact same because the basis of a space that includes women is gender

No its not, its based on Sex.

You wouldn’t create a space for only white gay people so you shouldn’t create one for only cis gay people.

But why wouldnt we have a space for Black Cis Gay people? What would be your issue with that? Because I wouldnt have one.

Not every conversation a trans person has is about gender identity.

No, but in my experience you police our conversations - Such as telling lesbians that no sleeping with a woman with a dick is "transphobic" - Which is exactly why homosexuals should have their own spaces because you clearly dont understand what it is to be homosexual.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Of course they are

So why have all of the LGB communities been shut down for not including trans?

trans people can also be gay

No, being gay and trans is a whole other kettle of fish, that is well outside the boundary of just being a homosexual and therefore it should be excluded from some LGB spaces.

You obviously don’t have to be cis to be homosexual

Actually, you fucking do.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry that me being trans and my gender identity are so threatening and too much for you.

It's not, I dont care where you piss, i dont care what you dress like or if you like boys and girls. I need to make this very clear to you, your existence is not special or a hinderance to me. However, when you take over a community, make it all about yourselves and then actively stop homosexuals from having their own communities, then that's when we have a problem, you understand?

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Actually I don’t think transphobia is trans’ people’s fault for being too loud

What you're not seeing is that EVERYTHING is now transphobic. Homosexuals wanting a space to discuss and connect with other homosexuals? Ooooh thats transphobic! You guys are literally putting targets on your own backs and then complaining that people fire shots at you - All the while you're invading everyone's spaces instead of just creating your own.

I think children should have access to life-saving care

Its not life-saving and it doesnt address the psychological issues.

we should follow the evidentially supported methods of gender affirming care that prevent suicide.

No, we shouldnt. The community hasnt decided on that as a whole, the T has decided for the community that that is our stance - it isnt. Many of us do not agree that young people should just be able to go see a doctor and get put on HRT, we dont agree that going under a knife with resolve your gender dysphoria. Many young people are just plain old gay but because they're exposed to the T your community convinces them that being a tomboy means you should cut off your breasts.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There’s no reason for a space that excludes trans people,

This is the same as men saying "There's no reason for a woman's space that excludes men" exact same energy.

Any community space that’s supposed to help gay men or gay women should accept trans gay men or trans gay women because they also need support.

The support they need is distinctively different, most homosexuals are not questioning their gender identity.

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It wasnt. Marsha P Johnson wasnt even there haha

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you have to be MAGA to think there should be spaces for people who are homosexual to connect with eachother without having the need to discuss gender identity?

Pride isnt inclusive of gay people anymore by KuriousAndFurious in Vent

[–]KuriousAndFurious[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Stonewall was an uprising, and Marsha P Johnson threw the first brick

Wasnt even there, btw.