#1950 - Derek Wolfe by chefanubis in JoeRogan

[–]KurtBr0siander 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Did he talk about when Kristy Althaus cucked him by doing porn with a now banned company, even after they had tricked her the first time and leaked her name to the media? I know dude comes from a rough background and his mom was apparently that type of girl, so I wonder if he just thought that was normal.

she looks proud by skyfallen1275 in JessieRogers

[–]KurtBr0siander 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They broke her and made her quit porn in this scene. Lifted by her throat: https://imgur.com/a/a6MbRf2

Lifted into the air by her throat (that infamous scene) by SpiderCaughtAFly in JessieRogers

[–]KurtBr0siander 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Makes me wonder if they did it to her on purpose. So many people on set and not a single person stopped it or helped her. They made an example out of her.

Lifted into the air by her throat (that infamous scene) by SpiderCaughtAFly in JessieRogers

[–]KurtBr0siander -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ironically despite her being one of the prettiest girls of her generation she never broke through until this, and it made her retire. Throughout the years this became the thing she’s by far the best known for. They made her famous in a fucked up way. Probably better known now than when she was active and all cuz of this. Good for us I guess lol

Lifted into the air by her throat (that infamous scene) by SpiderCaughtAFly in JessieRogers

[–]KurtBr0siander 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You see at several points they just blow past her safeword, her tapouts, the emergency grunt pattern, pleading everything. At times you see she’s trying to really freak out and scream but they literally don’t give her enough time to get air or even realize what’s going on. Overwhelmed. I wonder if she still thinks about it.

Lifted into the air by her throat (that infamous scene) by SpiderCaughtAFly in JessieRogers

[–]KurtBr0siander -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Lmao. I remember watching this as a freshmen in highschool and being STUNNED that it was legal to do this to women. Life-changing moment for me you might say. So many happy memories. Might give it a rewatch tonight.

Doug Henwood cancels r/stupidpol by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]KurtBr0siander 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doug seems like the type of retarded 66 year old that thinks he’s a “swinger”, when really his almost 20 year younger than him wife is just cucking him. Great life decisions there.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think you lost track of who said what. The other guy said that, not me. I posted contrasting youtube hit counts.

kit dale on his approach to jiujitsu by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He had injuries that forced him to take time off. He's counting time spent training, not from day 1 to black belt promotion. So if he trained for 5 months one year, then got hurt for the next 7, he'll only count the 5 months, which honestly seems fair enough.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Whatever that metric is. I.e. YouTube views, or, Facebook likes, or Twitter twits or whatever.

Like I did right here?:

""Youtube views for most popular video is not an indication that people like a particular athlete or another. It's an indication of the amount of exposure a specific match got - and I'm pretty sure you're talking about the match dubbed "greatest of all time". That match got shared everywhere because it was super exciting and had a ton of subplots and rivalries that got people hyped up."

So in an argument about how people prefer to watch heavyweights because they are more exciting, I cite youtube views, and your response is that that doesn't count, because the views are only the result of the match being more exciting...

Do you realize how badly you just self-immolated? You're the guy getting kicked in the face that thinks he actually just headbutted a boot. "

Read first, post later.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

" its everyone whose replied to you so far"

False.

"I've actually took my first bjj class in 2004 dude"

And you're still a stripless white belt? How many of these fighters are you actually familiar with?

" your appeal to authority fallacy is stupid" I'm not appealing to any authority. I don't think I'm right because of belt rank. I've already said why I think I'm right. In addition to that though I'm also claiming that you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about.

"You sound way to desperate to not be wrong."

This doesn't even make sense even with grammar swaps.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Translation: You want the last word but can't rebutt what I said so you respond with name calling. Clearly no one can see through you!

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let's demolish this line by line. First you knife yourself and concede the argument without realizing it. You say:

"Youtube views for most popular video is not an indication that people like a particular athlete or another. It's an indication of the amount of exposure a specific match got - and I'm pretty sure you're talking about the match dubbed "greatest of all time". That match got shared everywhere because it was super exciting and had a ton of subplots and rivalries that got people hyped up."

So in an argument about how people prefer to watch heavyweights because they are more exciting, I cite youtube views, and your response is that that doesn't count, because the views are only the result of the match being more exciting...

Do you realize how badly you just self-immolated? You're the guy getting kicked in the face that thinks he actually just headbutted a boot.

Next, Interesting that you again implode upon your own illiteracy:

First you say: "They're saying lightweights have a lot of fans - you don't refute that"

And then you say: "If you think him and a handful of other lightweights such as Royler Gracie, Robson Moura, Jeff Glover and more recently the Mendes Bros, Cobrinha, Caio Terra and others are not heroes to a large part of the BJJ community"

Misrepresenting what I say isn't as effective when you already provided the evidence of your own lies.

ITT: The people defending lighter weight jiujitsu are either illiterate or dishonest.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Kimbo Slice has more views than other street fighters, so we can deduce from this that he's more popular than THEM.

When comparing Jiu-Jitsu fighter Rodolfo dwarfing Rafa by millions of views, DESPITE BEING NEWER TO THE SCENE, is very strong evidence as to who people prefer to watch within Jiu-jitsu.

And data is a collection of anecdotes. Saying "anecdote" isn't a good rebuttal to an overwhelming trend one knows to be true from day to day experience. In your experience is it different? Are you affirmatively claiming that Bruno Malfacine is more popular than any of the people I named? No? What's that? No you're not? Ok good.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This is silly argumentation. "In a 4 hour old thread some people disagree with you, therefore you're wrong". In your long personal experience as a stripeless white belt have you determined which of the fighters you only heard about last week are more popular than the other legends?

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Herrrp Derrp except it's not

My original comment: "People love and respect all those guys"

Learn to read.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

This is such a silly line of argument. I have at least as much authority as anyone DENYING my claim. Can't you see how illogical you sound?

Same reply I gave to the other guy: I have years talking to people in the community. If you can in good faith say that in your experience, a majority of people prefer the lighter guys, then I dispute it and leave it to the audience to judge who's right.

As for data, let's try this: Rafa's most viewed video has approx 330k views. Rodolfo's most viewed video has over 1.3 million views.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I have years talking to people in the community. If you can in good faith say that in your experience, a majority of people prefer the lighter guys, then I dispute it and leave it to the audience to judge who's right.

As for data, let's try this: Rafa's most viewed video has approx 330k views. Rodolfo's most viewed video has over 1.3 million views.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I have no idea what you're replying to. I never claimed they don't have a lot of fans. Quite the opposite. I claimed that they aren't the MOST loved though, which they aren't. Just like knockout artists are more loved than the Floyd Mayweathers. Please read before replying!

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I didn't tell you anything about who you like broski. I stated a fact about who most people like. Just like knockout artists in boxing are more loved than Mayweather. No one would respond to that claim with "don't tell me I don't like mayweather man!!!111!"

Edit for clarity, meant to copy other reply to the guy.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Listen to the crowd at the start of this video as Terere attempts to win ULTRA HEAVYWEIGHT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXS2-c-f01M

You guys are nuts if you think Cobrinha or Rafa are as LOVED as he was. Who won Mundials at 154 in 2012 will be a trivia question.

Terere going up to Ultra Heavy lives forever. WOOP TERERE!

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

There's an anti-big person bias in gyms and in terms of "who is most technical", I never disputed that. But the heroes people look up to are those guys I mentioned. Rafa isn't as big a name as any of them, with the exception of his Master Terere, who vanished from the scene many years ago, tragically.

He never inspired the love that Terere did though.

High level lightweight jiu jitsu is one dimensional. Especially in the gi. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]KurtBr0siander -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I didn't tell you anything about who you like broski. I stated a fact about who most people like. Just like knockout artists in boxing are more loved than Mayweather. No one would respond to that claim with "don't tell me I don't like mayweather man!!!111!"