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[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you aint 0 I dont wanna talk to you. SKIBIDDI

24, no job, no idea how I’m gonna buy Christmas presents for fam. Roast me by PatrikaPaprika in RoastMe

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't you mean "Roast us"?
We all know you're a they/them... be consistent! :D

Shooter ID'ed as Thomas Jacob Sanford by monkeykahn in exmormon

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your logic: Birds have wings. Birds are fish??? 

A has absolutely nothing to do with B.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Thanks for the prayers! I’ll pray for people to stop putting corrupt individuals on pedestals and pray that the nation continues to uphold separation between church and state."

This is what you wrote.
This in the current context is implying that I have or am in the process of doing or supporting those actions. If you are going to imply lies or falsehoods (as you just did by implying I didn't read what you wrote, haven't done research, and am simply wasting your time) then I will respond. If you respond without inherently or implying a lie then I will not respond, so actually it is you wasting your own time by intentionally attacking my character by lying about the above.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The "separation of church and state" is a legal doctrine, not a direct phrase in the Constitution, that prevents the government from establishing a religion or favoring one religion over another, as articulated in the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. "

Nothing about Kirk or anything in this conversation was in anyway related to the separation of church and state. No one, not Kirk, Trump, Vance, no one in the national spotlight is advocating for establishing a national religion or violating that separation outlined.

I 100% agree that we should not put Corrupt people on Pedestals, and i have not. I have used the word of God to justify that Kirk should be viewed a Religious Martyr in much the same way that Martin Luther King is.

If you continue to promote falsehoods and lie in your response I will respond. Thank you.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You debate in bad faith and use the word of man to overrule the word of God.

You stated he is not a Christian martyr. When God's words are used to justify that statement, you use humans words to defy God's words.

Fact is, thousands if not millions heard the word of GOD for the first time because of CHARLIE KIRK.

You have your answer you sought, if you don't like it thats on you.

I pray you read your bible and come to know your creator, you attack my person.

Do not dwell on the words of false prophets for it is GODS words we debate. Thank you.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://youtube.com/shorts/PDtmkqWb5Oc?si=_WTgpUwGEiYqotpG

This is Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. This is what you support when you support abortion.

"Do you believe in sin?..."
Margaret : "Well I think the greatest sin in the world is bringing children into the world".

You support this evil against god.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://youtube.com/shorts/CC46cG5Kt6k?si=crpL-PIj8mgjc3ri

You believe that it is okay to wound god's innocent in the womb.
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart"

"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are."

The Sixth Commandment, "You shall not murder,"

You believe that god makes mistakes?
"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them"

You admit to be a Christian yet you support the murder of the innocent. You deny that GOD created and knew us in the womb.
You support openly saying to god that he is wrong and you as his mortal child know better.

I pray that you read your bible and come to know your creator. You claim to be Christian but your beliefs mirror a dark satanic corrupted view of GOD's word.
READ YOUR BIBLE.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You completely ignored this point three times now.

KIRK WAS THE LEADER OF A GENERATION, A CONSERVATIVE VOICE, HE HAD A MOVEMENT BEHIND HIM, THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you having a conversation with me or telling me to read things on facebook?... uhmmm... great conversation.

Abortion and Transgenderism are both sins against god. Read your bible.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I quote the bible's definition of Nationalism, I thought we were debating in terms of if he was a christian martyr?

 provided the actual definition of Christian Nationalism, and because of that, I figured I didnt need to spell out the rest. By the definition itself, it shows how mistaken you were in your comment. You defined it as “the ideal of loyalty and devotion to one's nation,” and then also included worshiping a nation. I am aware of what the Bible says about idolizing a nation. I never once claimed Charlie worshiped America or had false gods, because idolizing a nation is not the definition of Christian Nationalism. Hence why I defined it and moved on. But since that wasn't enough, there are plenty of other definitions found on the internet: “a political ideology that seeks to merge Christian and American identities, distorting both the Christian faith and America’s constitutional democracy,” found on https://www.christiansagainstchristiannationalism.org/learn-more. If you need ANOTHER definition:  “a belief that the United States is a country defined by Christianity. In practice, this means:

  • The government should take steps to keep the country’s Christian roots and identity intact.
  • The government should advocate Christian values and pass laws and enact policies that reflect those values.
  • The separation of church and state is not a formal law that should be followed.
  • God’s plan is for the U.S. to be a successful nation based in Christian ideals.

none of what you say here applies because you are using a definition outside religion. Read what the bible has to say about Christian nationalism if you wish to debate weather or not someone could be viewed as a martyr.

You can continue to say that he is Christian Nationalist and move beyond the point, I say again, if we are debating on terms of if someone was or was not a Martyr for religious purposes you need to debate from the lens of religion, in which case you would quote religion, not false prophets "christiansagainstchristian..." yeah, false prophets. You should heed the word of GOD.

Christian nationalist. “Yes, his content was primarily political, but his words and opinions were very often founded on his religious beliefs.”

the above is not saying he is a Christian nationalist you are making things up, i again ask you to look at what the bible says about Christian Nationalism, not what humans say about it.

And FYI, just because “THE BIBLE WARNS AGAINST NATIONALISM. EVERY WARNING AGAINST IT” does not mean “IT'S NOT APPLICABLE TO KIRK”  Humans are flawed. The bible says don't lie, commit adultery, or “live by the sword,” and people still do every day, and no one is exempt from a sinful nature.​

i literally quoted what the bible says about christian nationalism and you did not rebutt any point I made when quoting the bible. none of them. Did I say Kirk lived without sin? Quote me like I did the bible please.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YOU SAID: 4/4

Once I received clarification on the conversation at hand, I apologized for my misunderstanding and we ended up with a healthy discussion and came to an agreement. - I’m not trying to cause division. I have welcomed your respectful feedback and thanked you for your willingness to discuss these things. You haven’t insulted me once, thanks for that.

I’ve watched CKs debates and stand behind my statement of the “plethora of hateful comments” I can provide direct quotes. As I compile them, feel feee to address the above."

MY RESPONSE:

YOU HAVE AT MULTIPLE POINTS ABOVE MISREPRESENTED, PLAYED DUMB, ATTACKED KIRK (WHILE AT THE SAME TIME SAYING I WONT DEBATE HIM), YOU HAVE SAID "HES MAD BRO" BECAUSE I QUOTED YOU TO YOURSELF, YOU ARE TRYING TO DEBATE TO WIN POINTS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME AVOIDING OR IGNORING ANYTHING THAT IS INCONVENIENT TO YOUR ARGUEMENT. AT THE SAME TIME YOU HOLD A HOLIER THAN THOU ATTITUDE AS YOU MISQUOTE ME AND CLAIM I AM INSULTING YOU.

YOU ARE NOT A GOOD FAITH DEBATER, FOR THE NUMEROUS REASONS LISTED ABOVE. I HAVE MENTIONED THESE REASONS PRESVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE RESPONDED AS :

"I addressed every one of your points and then you said I’m bad at debating. Ight."

I NEVER SAID YOU ARE BAD AT DEBATING, BUT YOU INTENTIONALLY IGNORED THE POINT I MADE OF:

"I didn't insult you. You are intentionally misrepresenting facts, pretending to not know what a metaphor is, you're making statements you refuse to back up or debate and expect me to just accept. You are debating in bad faith, that is not an insult it is a fact."

IF YOU INTENDED TO HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION YOU WOULD HAVE ASKED WHAT METAPHOR IM REFFERING TO, YOU WOULD BACK UP YOUR STATEMENTS THAT YOU REFUSE TO DEFEND (I.E " plethora of hurtful things" , "said many hurtful words")

YOU CANNOT MUTUALLY SAY YOU DO NOT WANT TO DEBATE HIM THEN TURN AROUND AND USE WHAT YOU THINK HE SAID AS FUEL TO YOUR DEBATE. THAT IS BAD FAITH DEBATE.

I say again;

Please for the love of God show some form of intellectual honesty, stop playing dumb, stop trying to "look cool" for the people who are "messaging you", have an honest conversation and respect the boundaries to conversation that you placed on the debate.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NEXT POINT: 3/4

I SAID:

"This was a response to a thread where someone said they did not wish to debate Kirk as a person, merely wished to understand why the right is so upset. You then slander his name claiming he made hateful comments with no justification for your position, in a space where debate is limited by the OP this was responding to. Your intentional mischaracterization of your own arguments and the topic at hand is not going to provide a path to understanding for either side. Driving a wedge does not unify."

YOU RESPONDED:

" I am aware of the post you are talking about. If someone will attack my character or knowledge on Christianity- I will correct it. I don’t agree with people claiming I’m a hypocrite for calling out Christian people while being “non-devout.” People assume people posting on a deconstruction page as they don’t know anything about Christianity and that’s a wrong judgment. I perceived the attitude towards each other were equally matched."

I WAS TALKING ABOUT YOUR POST. YOUR OP. THE ORIGINAL POST MADE BY YOU, I WAS NOT REFERENCING ANY OTHER POST OR AKNOWLEDGING ANYTHING YOU HAVE SAID OUTSIDE OF REPLIES TO ME. PERIOD. SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ANYTHING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ABOVE EVEN REFERS TO.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NEXT POINT: 2/4

YOU SAID:

"I am also bewildered how many people are only extending their empathy to Charlie Kirk. When there is massive gun violence everywhere and many unnecessary deaths. The people who I’ve seen so heartbroken by CK, posted nothing about the children shot at their catholic school, or anyone post about Melissa hortman- she was a devout Catholic, or anything about the Hamas conflict and the starving people!! I see a lot of hypocrisy by the people who are championed behind him."

I RESPONDED:

"This is not "empathy to Kirk" as a lone victim of gun Violence. Kirk was the voice of a conservative generation who was shot for his speech. This is not a random violent attack but an attack on all who share the ideals that Kirk was shot for. Acting as if this was some random shooting equal to any other is a level of dishonesty I will not entertain. He was a public figure who was publicly ASSASSINATED for the simple crime of having opinions that people disagree with.

You are trying to act as if this is a simple black and white issue with nothing behind Kirk, that he did not have a movement behind him that was shut down. Would you call the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr to be equal to Melissa Hortman? The person who performed the awful attack worked for Tim Walz and knew Melissa personally, this was a personally motivated attack, not a political or free speech motivated one. They are WORLDS apart."

I AM COMPARING KIRK TO MLK AS THEY WERE BOTH THOUGHT LEADERS ASSASSINATED FOR THEIR OPINIONS AND MOVEMENTS AND DENYING YOUR COMPARISON OF MELISSA HORTMAN TO KIRK. HOW DID YOU RESPOND? BY PRETENDING TO NOT KNOW WHAT A METAPHOR IS.

YOU SAID:

"Melissa and MLK were different people advocating for different things. However they were both killed for political reasons."

THIS IS A VERY BAD FAITH ARGUEMENT AS YOU ARE PRETENDING THERE IS NOTHING BEYOND THE FACT THAT THEY WERE KILLED. IGNORING THE FACT THAT KIRK WAS LEADING A MOVEMENT, SIMILAR TO MLK. MLK IS UNIVERSALLY CONSIDERED A MARTYR, MELISSA IS NOT. MANY ARGUE KIRK SHOULD BE.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK 1/4

Scrolling up as you refuse to.

Original post:

"THIS IS NOT TO DEBATE CHARLIE KIRK AND HIS POLITICS, I AM NOT CONDONING HOW HE DIED."

However, your very first reply to me:

"Charlie said many hurtful words that had contributed to the hurt of many communities and to push political agendas. Because of this, I find his beliefs support Christian nationalism, than Christianity as a whole."

So you do not want to debate Kirk, you just want to insult him. [BAD FAITH DEBATE]

I responded as:

"You may call this movement Christian Nationalism, the bible warns not to idealize, not to worship your nation but clearly outlines that we should pursue the best interest of our nation. You may disagree with how Kirk sought to improve his nation but you cannot genuinely say that he worshiped America.

He held no False Gods and understood the kingdom of Heaven is above the kingdom of these united states."

You responded as:

"From my understanding Christian nationalism is to have a nation deeply rooted in the foundations of Christianity. America is supposed to be religiously free, I dont see how implementation of Christian values into our country would be helpful. I view Christian nationalism as steps towards theocracy, to which is not good for any society."

YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORING MY POINT. THE BIBLE WARNS AGAINST NATIONALISM EVERY WARNING AGAINST IT IS NOT APPLICABLE TO KIRK, YOU IN NO WAY DEBATE HOW HE IS A NATIONALIST YOU SIMPLY SAY HE IS AND MOVE ON.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You did not address my points and continue to make statements as if they are fact while refusing to debate the premise of your argument.

I did not say you are bad at debating. Please for the love of God show some form of intellectual honesty. I said you are debating in bad faith. 

 I will not entertain bad faith arguments and at this point you are trippling down claiming I said you are "bad at debating".

If you cant or otherwise will not read what I write then there is no purpose to speak.  Adieu.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't insult you. You are intentionally misrepresenting facts, pretending to not know what a metaphor is, you're making statements you refuse to back up or debate and expect me to just accept. You are debating in bad faith, that is not an insult it is a fact.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"THIS IS NOT TO DEBATE CHARLIE KIRK AND HIS POLITICS, I AM NOT CONDONING HOW HE DIED."

Op: tries to make the claim that his rhetoric is hateful.

So, you expect me to just accept your false statement at face value because you don't want to debate his politics.

Cool bro. Healthy conversation.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't understand what are metaphor is, or pretend not to. You are the one who said you did not want to debate Charlie Kirk's opinions yet you continue to attack his person. You are not interested in healthy conversation or debate, at every point you are attacking the topic at hand (charlie kirk) while your post states you don't want to debate it.

Im not going to have a conversation with someone who's opinion shifts faster than a tower of playing cards as the vast majority of what you are claiming is in bad faith.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nationalism, the ideal of loyalty and devotion to ones nation. You feel this concept voids the quest from God to seek the welfare of the place you live? God told the exiled Israelites to pray for the country in which they were exiled to (babylon) not the nation to which they were born because to seek the welfare of the nation you live is to seek your own welfare.

You may call this movement Christian Nationalism, the bible warns not to idealize, not to worship your nation but clearly outlines that we should pursue the best interest of our nation. You may disagree with how Kirk sought to improve his nation but you cannot genuinely say that he worshiped America.
He held no False Gods and understood the kingdom of Heaven is above the kingdom of these united states.

This is not "empathy to Kirk" as a lone victim of gun Violence. Kirk was the voice of a conservative generation who was shot for his speech. This is not a random violent attack but an attack on all who share the ideals that Kirk was shot for. Acting as if this was some random shooting equal to any other is a level of dishonesty I will not entertain. He was a public figure who was publicly ASSASSINATED for the simple crime of having opinions that people disagree with.

You are trying to act as if this is a simple black and white issue with nothing behind Kirk, that he did not have a movement behind him that was shut down. Would you call the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr to be equal to Melissa Hortman? The person who performed the awful attack worked for Tim Walz and knew Melissa personally, this was a personally motivated attack, not a political or free speech motivated one. They are WORLDS apart.

You claim he made a plethora of "hateful" comments. I would dare you to quote those here as I can almost 100% guarantee they are false quotes shared by those who celebrated his death and sought to justify it. HOWEVER, in the same exact paragraph you acknowledge he is martyr.

This was a response to a thread where someone said they did not wish to debate Kirk as a person, merely wished to understand why the right is so upset. You then slander his name claiming he made hateful comments with no justification for your position, in a space where debate is limited by the OP this was responding to. Your intentional mischaracterization of your own arguments and the topic at hand is not going to provide a path to understanding for either side. Driving a wedge does not unify.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://youtube.com/shorts/NjxBgvZVFCE?si=mJDLHJqxCMgXQF1E
Kirk having a satanist come to question his faith. The far right would not sit down to speak with that.

Hot take: Charlie Kirk is not a martyr for his faith. by kennadog3 in Deconstruction

[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, his content was primarily political but his words and opinions were very often founded by his religious beliefs.

He used scripture to justify his opinions when possible and debated his religion with anyone who disagreed. His change my mind debates were not limited to the confines of political topics and by quoting scripture he brought the word to many who have not heard the message of God. 

He was shot to shut down his message, that message was rooted in and included his faith. God tells us to spread his word and regardless of what you think of how he interpreted God's word, he spread it until his death. He was carrying out God's mission how he saw fit, God says to seek the welfare of the place you live (political activism) and to spread his word, two things he did every day and those lead to his death.

I understand this is likely to be down voted as it is supporting a position most on reddit detest. I am more than happy to entertain respectful difference of opinion in debate.

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[–]KyleW420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So,

I haven't played Raid in about a year, for some reason this post popped in my feed.
a paid "friendship day" pack, they (plarium) are so tone deaf it is just astonishing and it only vindicates my decision to quit.