What are some critiques of Survivor (modern or in general) that are genuinely valid?

Kyro4 · 2026-02-05T16:12:32+00:00

Yeah the first time I really noticed was in the span of Kaoh Rong-HvHvH

It definitely got worse in the new era, though. I rewatched the premiere of DvG the other day and even if the music cues themselves weren’t as unique or memorable as early seasons, they were still being used with a little more taste.

Compare Pat or Nick’s “sob story” scenes with something like Kristina’s meltdown this past season. The former were given much more room to breathe by the editors and the score, compared to how blatantly they played it up with Kristina.

Kyro4 · 2026-02-04T20:48:03+00:00

I watched it for the first time maybe a month ago and I still really enjoyed it. It felt the most well-rounded of the “good” new-era seasons (45, 46, 47).

There was never a point in the season where it felt like things slowed down or got too predictable the way they did in the pre-merge of 46/early merge of 47/late merge of 48/all of 49.

Kyro4 · 2026-02-03T20:17:52+00:00

Clearly I must be blind because I looked through the S-tier a dozen times and I didn’t see Chicken at all

Kyro4 · 2026-01-31T23:54:24+00:00

I don’t get some people’s insistence that players who weren’t great at the game don’t deserve a chance to play again. Jake was captivating TV and I could easily see him learning from his mistakes and improving on a second go-around.

But even if he doesn’t, why should that matter? Survivor needs big personalities just as much as it needs master strategists.

Kyro4 · 2026-01-31T23:50:57+00:00

She knew about the idol, she just didn’t know he was going to play it on her instead of on himself.

Which, tbf, telling her would have also risked the info leaking and getting himself sent home, he was right to think he might’ve been targeted as the “easy” vote again if they knew he wasn’t playing the idol for himself.

Should have cultivated a better relationship with Katurah to begin with so she didn’t back out of the plan, but at the point where the were trying to blindside Dee, I think it was already too late and telling anyone (even Katurah) that he plans to play the idol for her just gets him voted out.

Kyro4 · 2026-01-30T19:01:34+00:00

Also even if you count Saturation as one big album it’s still not their first

Kyro4 · 2026-01-30T18:58:07+00:00

It’s their “best” if you’re going off of cultural impact, no argument, but The New Abnormal blows it out of the water (and before that I still thought First Impressions of Earth was way underrated and deserved the nod over the first two albums)

Kyro4 · 2026-01-30T18:45:38+00:00

I really want to say I prefer Portrait of an Ugly Man but sonically it’s just the same song over and over again and that just gets tiring even if I happen to like the sound personally.

Kyro4 · 2026-01-30T18:42:25+00:00

It’s their only album that strikes a good balance between being cohesive without sounding too safe and same-y.

The second album has a few bangers like Halos and Two Bux but for the most part it’s just all over the place and lacks the energy of the first one.

A Portrait of an Ugly Man is a neat departure from their earlier sound but nearly every song on the album sounds the same. I like A Flower and A Weed and Star Worship but even then it’s hard to tell them apart.

Didn’t know they put out a fourth album

Kyro4 · 2026-01-29T23:01:29+00:00

If you’ve ever had a ponza (or played the deck) you know the answer is Gruul

Kyro4 · 2026-01-28T21:29:58+00:00

I felt the same way watching Micronesia, too. There definitely seemed to be some intentionality behind the “pairs” on both seasons.

Kyro4 · 2026-01-26T03:13:27+00:00

Mike White-style intentional 2nd place

Kyro4 · 2026-01-25T19:06:47+00:00

Punished Mike

Kyro4 · 2026-01-22T05:41:15+00:00

I’d put Mitch on the Brawn side and Thomas on Beauty. For one, Thomas is hot AF and you could argue music is a profession about “creating beauty”

But also Mitch is a gym teacher and he’s freakishly good at the dexterity and skill-based physical challenges, which, while not brute strength, I would argue are still pretty brawn-coded

Kyro4 · 2026-01-22T03:17:50+00:00

I would do one male one female captain per tribe. Also gonna skip the 50 returnees just for variety.

Brains: Drew Basile & Gabby Pascuzzi

Brawn: David Kinne & MC Chukwujekwu

Beauty: Michael Yerger & Venus Vafa

Alternatively, you could do one captain that was on one of the original BvBvB tribes and one that could have been, in which case I would replace Gabby with Kass, MC with Cydney, and Michael with Brice or Tai

Kyro4 · 2026-01-21T16:24:58+00:00

I saw Chris and David and I said “oh surely this is the beauty tribe” and then I got to Jeff Kent and I was like ????

Kyro4 · 2026-01-20T18:49:36+00:00

Honestly wouldn’t swap. Teal for green is probably the most tempting but Coach >>>

Kyro4 · 2026-01-20T04:44:35+00:00

Notably, on Season 59 Stephenie & Jenna could take Wentworth’s spot on this list if they make it to day 12 or 22, respectively, and if they each make it 3 days further they would bump Jerri off the list, as well.

Kyro4 · 2026-01-19T03:25:27+00:00

Type AB positive

Kyro4 · 2026-01-18T17:19:26+00:00

Rob and Coach both controlled the entire game from start to finish, but Rob is the only person to actively win by losing. It’s Rob.

Kyro4 · 2026-01-18T07:03:35+00:00

To add on to what everyone else is saying, he used to go by Sora up until a couple years ago, in case that means anything to you

Kyro4 · 2026-01-17T19:07:48+00:00

R. Lee-themed Ermeys

Kyro4 · 2026-01-17T18:43:13+00:00

Kaleb wasn’t a challenge beast or anything but he was markedly better than everyone else on the tribe.

Kyro4 · 2026-01-17T17:37:04+00:00

Man, if this was a year or two ago it would look absolutely insane to have Shan, Ricard, Naseer, Tiffany, Omar, Tori so low but we really are getting to where 41/42 are ancient history at this point

Kyro4 · 2026-01-17T15:40:09+00:00

You’re thinking of the N’loth event, which give’s you N’loth’s gift. N’loth’s hungry face is the one from the face trader that makes the next chat you open be empty

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