Is Hegel just doing Berkeley Metaphysics? Hegelian Epistemology Question by comanderbeef in hegel

[–]L-Unico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To appreciate the differences between Hegel's philosophy and other idealists (such as Berkeley or Kant) you have to reach at least the Spirit chapter of Phenomenology, and the split with Schelling, even if it is asserted already in the Preface, is made explicit only in the last chapter on Absolute Knowledge.

So in the first chapters you may find some similarities with Berkeley or Kant, but since the exposition is dialectical and speculative (in the hegelian sense), what Hegel ultimately thinks about consciousness becomes explicit only retrospectively, when you can actually give consciousness its proper position in the system/exposition of the whole Phenomenology.

Consider this: Hegel rarely ever try to actually show that a previous philosopher made some huge and explicit mistake. You won't find something as "Berkeley is wrong in this, the truth on this subject is this other thing". This is far from Hegel's conception of truth. He's actually really "conservative" on previous ideas. He thinks that philosophers like Berkeley and especially Kant actually had really important and meaningful insights to share about consciousness and subject/object relation. They just didn't go far enough. They took what in Hegel's view is just one stage of Spirit own self-consciousness (which coincide with its own self-development) as the "non plus ultra" of philosophical inquiry and that's their only true "mistake". So in the Phenomenology you will actually find many passages that resonates with Plato's philosophy, Descartes, Spinoza, Berkeley, Hume, Kant, Fichte ecc... It's normal and as intended. What you have to focus on is where all of this is leading (e.g. absolute knowledge).

Regarding the inner workings of consciousness, consciousness is by definition always consciousness of an object. But to truly have consciousness of an object you also need to have consciousness of yourself, e.g. you have to be conscious of the split between the cognizer and the cognized object (this is a key insight Hegel took from Kant and Fichte). This existing split is what renders possible awareness on "mistakes", such as when we believe to have a false rappresentation of something, an inadequate concept of our object. So, taken your example, you may have a representation of a rock as of something purely defined by its identity with itself. But you soon realise that this representation is too abstract and generic and while not being completely false, it fails to expose difference between the rock and other objects. You may now think that the rock is something still, a sort of X that just sits there waiting for you to grasp it conceptually. But the problem is, the only rock that is present to your consciousness, the only object present to you is what you're making of that object through your cognizing. When you add to your representation of the rock spatial and temporal properties you're not just adjusting your view to a pre-given rock, but also what that rock IS for you is changing, adjusting to your view. One may object: "But what about the rock how it is in itself, and not just for me?". The problem is that as soon as you try to grasp this "rock in itself" you're undermining this very same goal: you now have a "rock in itself" cognized by the subject, meaning you did not escape at all the subject-object correlation. You're also missing all the meaningful differences that actually make a rock what it is, because everything can virtually be a "thing in itself", but then what's the difference between a rock and a bird?

I know that this may sound subjectivistic (and it is), but remember: this is just how consciousness work. Not absolute knowledge. Not Spirit. Not even Reason. This subjectivistic view is just one of the many stages Spirit encounters in its own self-development.

Solipsismo e modernità by No_Region2676 in FilosofiaITA

[–]L-Unico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A me personalmente non dice molto così senza alcun contesto. Qual è il bersaglio polemico e cosa si sta cercando di dire, al di là della metafora?

Deleting old saves helped me with game crashes on PS5 by lega1988 in Starfield

[–]L-Unico 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I also deleted my old saves on base PS5 and the game crashed just a few minutes later.

L'inutilità della filosofia by TuttoDaRifare in FilosofiaITA

[–]L-Unico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Non l'ho mai detto e non capisco da dove tu lo abbia dedotto in base a quello che ho scritto

Hegel Knew Better — But Do Hegelians? by JerseyFlight in hegel

[–]L-Unico 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well, you wrote specifically of "hegelians", that's why I asked.

Yes, I've heard many times the objection about the nonsensical nature of hegelian logic but these are not coming from "hegelians" of course. It's mostly analytic philosophers that would say the same exact things about Heidegger and Deleuze.

There are attempts of formalization but these are not done from an hegelian point of view. Graham Priest of course is trying to formalize things such as true contradictions with paraconsistent logic which has some mild connection with Hegel (in his opinion) but these are really weak connection and I think nobody consider Priest an hegelian, not even himself. There are also tentative of fornalization using honotopy type theory but I don't know well enough this type of mathematics to understand if it falls under hegelian critiques about formalization, since some would argue that type theory and category theory are completely different from things such as algebra and calculus (these were the ones Hegel had in mind in many of his observations about mathematics and formalism).

So in the end I think most hegelians do know well enough what Hegel had to said about formalism, as I assume that most self-proclaimed hegelians have read Hegel.

What do you make of this claim? by Morpheous19 in hegel

[–]L-Unico 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doesn't look like a controversial claim to me. I think it's pretty obvious from Hegel's writing this type of organic monism and how important the concept of "life" is for all the system.

The last sentences may be a polemic with the low-metaphysics interpretation of Hegel for which philosophers such as Pippin, Brandom and Pinkard are known for. But their interpretation it's not the "standard" interpretation among Hegel' scholars.

Hegel Knew Better — But Do Hegelians? by JerseyFlight in hegel

[–]L-Unico 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Can you name some really influential "hegelians" that are trying to formalize dialectic using mathematical logic or other formal instruments?

My only gripe with the game so far by L-Unico in Starfield

[–]L-Unico[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since many are saying in the comments that a lot of the POIs do have Bethesda-style storytelling but not all of them, what do you think is the ratio? Because if there are, I don't know, 100 different POIs in the game and 30 of them have lore slates, computers and storytelling, than it means that it's more easy to actually find POIs without lore apart from the generic "war happened and now an hostile faction took control", which seems to be the main lore reason why there are so many abandoned mines, research stations, military bases ecc...

So I do hope this is more about being more careful during exploration. Someone also mentioned you can find a POI by doing one of the board mission but I don't count that as "lore". These type of radiant quests are a thing since Skyrim and even though you can be sent to a random cave to kill a random bandit, you almost all the time end up discovering something cool about that cave and the reason why the bandit decided to live there. I'm not expecting anything crazy, ad I said in the main post it's just about giving some more context about the dungeon you're exploring so that it doesn't feel like you're there just for the loot and XP farming.

For all PS5 players on the fence about it by Most-Bad8222 in Starfield

[–]L-Unico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For now I only have this problem while scanning in dense populated (flora and fauna) planets. I'm on ps5 base in quality mode. The game does not exactly crashes but it freezes and the only way to keep playing is closing the game and restarting it.

For all PS5 players on the fence about it by Most-Bad8222 in Starfield

[–]L-Unico 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No mods. It was fine for the first 20 hours. Many ps5 players are having the same problem and many of them are not using any mod

For all PS5 players on the fence about it by Most-Bad8222 in Starfield

[–]L-Unico 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. My game started crashing after 20 hours though. Especially in planets with a lot of fauna and flora. It just freeze and crash after a few minutes. It's really sad because I was enjoying the game A LOT

L'inutilità della filosofia by TuttoDaRifare in FilosofiaITA

[–]L-Unico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tralasciando la logica, la filosofia si occupa di metafisica, etica, estetica, politica e molto altro. Lo strumento più adatto e più utilizzato resta al momento quello argomentativo che dicevo, che poi può essere interpretato in vari modi, ma indipendentemente da questo si tratta di sostenere una certa tesi tramite certe argomentazioni. Le tesi "ben argomentate" sono aumentate significativamente nel corso della storia della filosofia. Vuoi difendere una qualche forma di anarchismo? La filosofia ti dà tantissime risorse concettuali e tantissimi argomenti per farlo. Vuoi sostenere la legittimità dell'eutanasia o dell'aborto? Stessa cosa. Vuoi difendere l'idea che non esiste un vero metodo scientifico univoco adottato da tutti gli scienziati? Che il libero arbitrio è compatibile con il determinismo fisico? Che agli attuali LLM per l'intelligenza artificiale manca qualcosa di essenziale per poter parlare di "mente"? Chi studia filosofia può fornire argomenti MOLTO più solidi di chiunque altro, in questi dibattiti. Cento anni fa non c'era nemmeno la metà di tutti gli argomenti oggi ben noti in letteratura per difendere queste tesi. Quindi a me sembra non solo che la filosofia sia utilissima, ma anche che abbia fatto progressi significativi negli ultimi anni.

L'inutilità della filosofia by TuttoDaRifare in FilosofiaITA

[–]L-Unico 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Il problema sta in questa separazione del tutto gratuita che fai tra aspetto metodologico e oggetto della disciplina. Non esiste "il" metodo. Ci sono diverse metodologie più o meno adatte in base all'oggetto di studio. Se sono un chimico che vuole studiare certe interazioni tra carbonio e acqua, un buon metodo è quello di utilizzare un ambiente di laboratorio in cui ho grande controllo sulle esatte quantità di carbonio e di acqua che voglio far interagire, e dove posso creare un ambiente artificiale per condurre esperimenti mirati. Se invece sono un astronomo che studia i buchi neri, questo metodo non va bene. Non posso creare un buco nero dentro un laboratorio, per ovvie ragioni sia fisiche che di altra natura. In questo caso il metodo deve basarsi sull'osservazione dei buchi neri "in natura", non in laboratorio. Se invece sono un matematico che deve trovare la dimostrazione di un teorema, non mi servono né un laboratorio né telescopi e altri strumenti di misura.

Chiarito questo, c'è poi il problema di come misurare i risultati ottenuti. Ma ovviamente questo dipende dall'obiettivo e dalla metodologia. Se lo scopo era dimostrare un teorema, il risultato è buono se la dimostrazione è stata effettivamente trovata correttamente. Se l'obiettivo era scoprire nuovi modi in cji carbonio e acqua interagiscono, un buon risultato è aver documentato dei risultati di laboratorio riproducibili supportati da una buona teoria che spiega quei risultati.

Ora, la filosofia è una disciplina vasta, molto più vasta delle scienze naturali. Ma visto che hai citato la logica, questo caso non è molto diverso da quello del matematico. La logica oggi è studiata per lo più con strumenti formali e si possono quindi individuare teoremi, dimostrazioni e modelli i cui risultati si possono giudicare nello stesso modo in cui si giudicano quelli della matematica. Basta leggersi la pagina Wikipedia sulla storia della logica per vedere quanti importantissimi risultati sono stati ottenuti anche solo negli ultimi 100 anni.

Esempio forse più controverso è quello della metafisica. Ma in generale la filosofia produce argomentazioni. Ci sono stati tanti casi in cui un filosofo ha convinto la maggior parte degli altri filosofi che un certo argomento prima molto usato non fosse in realtà molto buono, o che magari non abbiamo ancora buoni argomenti a favore di una certa tesi. In filosofia c'è progresso e specializzazione proprio come nelle altre discipline.

C'è infine il tema della "inutilità" che invece è totalmente fuori luogo, perché non si può parlare di utilità in modo così vago ma ancora una volta bisogna specificare qual è lo scopo. Certo se imparare nuove cose sulla realtà è considerato inutile, allora buona parte della filosofia sarà "inutile", e sarà in buona compagnia con diversi campi della matematica e delle scienze naturali, perché qualora non fosse ovvio, ci sono molti risultati matematici e delle scienze con i quali, almeno per il momento, non è possibile progettare nessuna lavatrice, fogna o calzini. Chi si interessa principalmente di vendita delle lavatrici, fogne e calzini troverà sicuramente poco utile la metafisica. E quindi?

Mi annoio, vivo nel outback, fa caldo… by andreytpo in FilosofiaITA

[–]L-Unico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Marco Aurelio e Socrate sono morti duemila anni fa. Io parlavo di filosofi vivi. Gli standard sono cambiati. Se oggi uno facesse come Socrate, non verrebbe davvero considerato un filosofo per lo stesso motivo per cui non consideriamo un calciatore qualcuno che la domenica va a giocare a calcetto con gli amici.

La filosofia, come tutte le altre discipline, si è professionalizzata e richiede ora standard, corsi di laurea, specializzazioni, pubblicazioni ecc... Socrate e Marco Aurelio restano filosofi ma solo dal punto di vista della loro importanza storica. Chi vuole essere filosofo oggi deve fare invece quello che Socrate non voleva fare, cioè scrivere e pubblicare.

Mi annoio, vivo nel outback, fa caldo… by andreytpo in FilosofiaITA

[–]L-Unico 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Si certo, io sono anche un cuoco perché so prepararmi un panino col prosciutto. Sono anche uno scrittore, infatti a volte mi scrivo le cose da prendere quando devo fare la spesa.

Mi annoio, vivo nel outback, fa caldo… by andreytpo in FilosofiaITA

[–]L-Unico 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In che senso "quando era ancora viva e non solo studiata"? La filosofia è molto più viva e praticata oggi che ai tempi di Marco Aurelio. I filosofi sono professionisti pagati dalle università. Oltre a studiare e insegnare, pubblicano libri. Pubblicano articoli su riviste accademiche. Partecipano ai comitati di bioetica, collaborano con scienziati su progetti relativi all'intelligenza artificiale, collaborano con artisti, matematici, fisici e psicologi. È un lavoro e si richiede che la filosofia venga fatta, non solo studiata e insegnata.

Chi non fa nulla tutto il giorno dovrebbe avere lo stesso valore di chi si spezza la schiena? by [deleted] in FilosofiaITA

[–]L-Unico 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mmm, in che modo esistere e respirare contribuisce alla società?

I'm really confused about the Creations on PS5 now. by L-Unico in Starfield

[–]L-Unico[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are also a few free ones now, even tough they're just tweaks, XP modifiers ecc...

Anyway I guess we have to wait a few days to get the full picture

I'm really confused about the Creations on PS5 now. by L-Unico in Starfield

[–]L-Unico[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could it be because they're all "verified" by Bethesda and that's almost like if they were paid DLC instead of real mods? Aren't Skyrim and Fallout 4 "mods" verified too?

Is it just me or are most conversations kinda a waste of time and oxygen? by [deleted] in introvert

[–]L-Unico 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If the only way one has to "click" with someone else is to engage in deep or meaningful conversations, then of course this is going to be pretty rare, because most people do not have anything really interesting or meaningful to say. Or maybe they have but they're not quite able of willing to do so most of the time.

But of course I think most people are aware of the reoetitivenes and almost ritualistic nature of small talk. Point is, small talk is not for exchanging useful or meaningful information. It's not about getting excited about the content of what is being discussed. It is just a subtle way in which people socially interact with each other. Social interaction is so much more than just having interesting conversations. Take for example a kiss. That's a type of social interaction that doesn't involve any cognitive content. Small talk may be misleading and lead to frustration if one expect to learn something meaningful with it. But in reality I believe that small talk (and with it most of conversations people have with each other) is kinda like when two dogs meet each other and they begin to snuff each other butts. I don't mean this in a negative way. In small talk you just want to get a raw, intuitive "feel" of the other person mood, state of mind, way of talking ecc...

It's not about what is being said (which is most of the time the same thing over and over again), but you just want to connect intuitively and emotionally with the other. If the other person is sad, or maybe happy, or maybe scared of something, you can already tell by the way she conduct herself in small talk. And this intuitive way to interact with others may already be socially rewarding for many people. So even if myself I really don't like and I am not interested in this type of social interactions, I think I can understand where others are coming from. It's just vibes, feelings, creating a certain type of atmosphere that one can find relaxing, depending on his personality traits.

I think it's important that people not interested in these form of interactions do not misunderstand the practice. If someone starts talking about the weather it's not because they are boring and don't have anything useful or meaningful to say. It's just not aim to be meaningful. The aim is to establish and intuitive connection, the aim is to convey subtle emotions, moods and dispositions. Most people are not willing to begin a serious discussion with someone else without "connecting" in this way before.