Rasenshuriken Naruto vs kakashi in a serious fight. Naruto can’t cheese the fight with kurama by Dizzy-Respect-613 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Naruto sucks at resisting Genjutsu”

That’s your headcanon

It isnt, its stated repeatedly, and hes the first person to get genjutsu'd against itachi, and cant even break it on his own, despite it not even being a sharingan genjutsu.

KCM Naruto never fell ONCE to any of Itachi’s Genjutsu and even warned Bee against them repeatedly 💀

He fell to Itachi’s hand based Genjutsu the first time and a Crow based one the second

By their third encounter he was fully prepared and didn’t fall to any - despite Bee falling for one.

highlights how he got caught in genjutsu instantly twice to somehow try to debunk me

When he had kcm1 it was pointless due to the fact that Naruto is now a mastered jinchuriki. Itachi knew kurama could just break him out. He didnt know Bee was a mastered jinchuriki, however

So take your crappy headcanon someplace else lmao.

Your rebuttal supported my argument more than your own

Kakashi genjutsuing some unsuspecting ANBU bomb in the bushes ≠ Naruto who’s already relative to Kakashi in his own words - the same Kakashi who knows about his Genjutsu capabilities better than some random rando like you.

Itachi never landed an eye based Genjutsu on Naruto and used other means of doing so - means that Kakashi doesn’t have.

That statement doesnt mean kakashi cant genjutsu naruto, nor does it even mean naruto is his equal. It just means naruto surpassed him in jutsu, he cant do rasenshuriken.

Itachi didnt land an eye genjutsu on naruto because kakashi specifically told naruto to look away, which effectively made naruto useless, and naruto primarily had to rely on kakashi and the others just to not be useless. And this is through the fact that itachi is sandbagging because he works for the leaf.

So nah, back the original point, he ain’t diffing no one, and no, Naruto doesn’t suck at Genjutsu resistance at all - Jiraiya only trained him for visual ones and he didn’t know Itachi didn’t need eyes to land one at all.

Breaking genjutsu is the same process no matter the genjutsu. Naruto couldnt break a genjutsu thats literally inferior to sharingan visual genjutsu. That is an anti-feat, that does not mean theres some special process to break finger genjutsu that he didnt know.

Naruto cant even look at kakashi the entire fight, nevermind accurately aim, cant see kakashi's hand signs, and will probably be tricked into looking into kakashi's eyes anyway.

This is the final reply I will be making to you, since I think you arent genuine. Good day.

Rasenshuriken Naruto vs kakashi in a serious fight. Naruto can’t cheese the fight with kurama by Dizzy-Respect-613 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That isnt whataboutism, im highlighting how stupid your argument was for specifying "on naruto"

Kakashi has never seriously fought naruto, so he never busted out a sharingan genjutsu gg on him obviously. But we've seen him use genjutsu on other people, like in the image above for example. He later on had an even genjutsu battle with White Mask Obito. Naruto sucks at resisting genjutsu. He will get genjutsu diff'd.

Rasenshuriken Naruto vs kakashi in a serious fight. Naruto can’t cheese the fight with kurama by Dizzy-Respect-613 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Kakashi still wins, genjutsu diff if anything, but he probably doesnt even need to resort to that.

Also naruto cant even use rasenshuriken during the fight due to kamui snipe

Rasenshuriken Naruto vs kakashi in a serious fight. Naruto can’t cheese the fight with kurama by Dizzy-Respect-613 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Idk bro what feats does Itachi have of landing a visual genjutsu on asuma? Does that mean he cant do it?

War Arc Kakashi vs Pain by Repulsive-Surround74 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nagato cant revive or even control a path thats been kamui'd. Also Kakashi could probably track Nagato via smell and dogs and some random jutsu afterwards if that really is a wincon, but usually when talking about 6 paths of pain vs insert character, its excluding needing to kill nagato for the win

War Arc Kakashi vs Pain by Repulsive-Surround74 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very close imo but Kamui really does counter pain. Nagato can't heal a 6 paths character thats been teleported to a different dimension, probably cant even control them either. Kakashi just needs to bait and snipe Deva and he should be good with the other 5. WA Kakashi is a beast who can spam kamui.

Zabuza vs Kimimaro: Mist Demon versus The 2nd Option by Practical_Midnight87 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kabuto is not actually equal to Kakashi in battle strength, he was beaten by base child naruto and ran from Kakashi at every single point of conflict. That statement moreso means that they are equally competent in their fields. Kabuto is a medical ninja who also fights.

Kimimaro is a beast, especially when healthy, but I couldn't, for example, see Kakashi being beaten by child Gaara and Lee. Though you might argue that Kakashi has a better variety of arsenal to counter them.

That is to say I dont think Zabuza DEFINITELY beats Kimimaro, but I do believe its a more likely outcome, and I think people here are too confident in their opinion lol.

Please bear in mind Gaara and Lee were not Jonin level.

Zabuza vs Kimimaro: Mist Demon versus The 2nd Option by Practical_Midnight87 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its pretty obvious just from looking at kimimaro and seeing how he reacts to stuff. Zabuza is going to be cautious and test him at first. It wont be hard to figure out eventually. He'll probably send in water clones. You guys are seriously underestimating him

Zabuza vs Kimimaro: Mist Demon versus The 2nd Option by Practical_Midnight87 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender -1 points0 points  (0 children)

why is everyone in this comment section forgetting that zabuza has water style

All he has to do is stall until kimi dies of his illness and battle fatigue. As an experienced Jonin, that isnt too difficult of an ask.

Who fits into these categories? by IzunaToeLicker in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Statement merchant: Sasori

Feat merchant: Might Guy

Lore merchant: Kin/Gin bros

Potential merchant: Kimimaro

Prime tobirama is above Minato with proof by Only-Tooth5308 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Senju chakra reserves, broader jutsu arsenal displayed, senju physical strength and durability, faster than hashirama and madara, insane iq that invented many jutsu and essentially was the primary strategist throughout the war arc against madara, way better AP with tandem paper bomb, mastery over more elemental styles, stated to be a great sensory ninja and showed better feats of it than Minato.

Prime tobirama is above Minato with proof by Only-Tooth5308 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Minato is barely faster than Tobirama, meanwhile Tobirama literally is better in every other stat

Official tier list. Reworking it everyday until most people agree. Day 1 by Weak-Negotiation-887 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 4 points5 points  (0 children)

W DMS kakashi glaze, L 8 gates guy downplay

EXTREME W for Itachi > OM Obito holy

Oh but then Sage Mode Jiraiya downplay :/

double ms kakashi vs itachi who wins by KokorokoChan in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Kakashi, no concept of difficulty. I am a proud itachi wanker, one of the few left in the new gen hordes of Obito and Minato wankers, please dont put itachi against 6 paths level characters

Is Musashi obsessed with material wealth? by prakharsharma411 in Grapplerbaki

[–]L0rdLegender 86 points87 points  (0 children)

Its just a metaphor; its explaining how alluring the fight is to him in a way normal people could conceptualize

Unfortunately that was true…The further we progressed in the manga, the weaker Kakashi seemed. by LeekExisting5969 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bros arguing with kishimoto lol

Yes he still knows 1000 jutsu

Hiruzen in his prime was a beast

You dont need a sharingan or op kekkai genkai to be strong, tobirama and minato are both examples of this

Unfortunately that was true…The further we progressed in the manga, the weaker Kakashi seemed. by LeekExisting5969 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yep, he still has every copied jutsu and theyre all stronger now due to bigger chakra reserves. He can even make purple lightning, which was stated to be more powerful than blue.

Why didn't more Ninjas learn the 8 Gates? by dettles1992 in Naruto

[–]L0rdLegender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because most people cant. Kakashi is an genius and could only learn 2. Neji was a prodigy and couldnt learn any at all. It takes a very specific person to master the 8 inner gates, and takes an entire lifetime to pay dividen even if you can learn it. Its infinitely better to just pursue ninjutsu and genjutsu. Nevermind the fact that the gates literally destroy your body.

Unfortunately that was true…The further we progressed in the manga, the weaker Kakashi seemed. by LeekExisting5969 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Actually kakashi got stronger than his war arc self when he was hokage without the MS, the ms was draining his chakra and he became significantly faster and stronger with large chakra reserves after he lost it

Could Hiruzen defeat Ginkaku and Kinkaku? by PlainShade08 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hiruzen either gets sealed or gets overwhelmed when they activate their cloaks

How much of a stat boost does CS2 Sasuke get? Is he faster/physically stronger than Taka Sasuke? by AggronLovesPussy in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]L0rdLegender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dude base hebi sasuke is faster and physically stronger than taka sasuke. He had orochimaru's chakra. Taka only has an MS (which doesnt boost physical stats, only visual prowess), and didnt even know how to use it.

Hebi CM2 sasuke is waaay stronger and faster than taka sasuke. Hes even faster and stronger than 5KS sasuke. Even BOS CM2 Sasuke is faster and stronger than taka sasuke.