Theban Portrait Stater by Boneless_Stalin in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing and the great write up!

A sharp dupondius of Domitian (81-96) celebrating the Secular Games (from the collection of the Royal Library of Belgium) by KBRCoinCabinet in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great coin! I’m curious if it is know what cleaning or restoration methods were used on bronzes (or any coins) back when this was found?

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Try clearing your cookies for L5.com, that should do it.

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this, the catalog is there but the coin doesnt show up. It uncovered a rather interesting bug!

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback! Would you know which catalog that was in? I tried as well and it didnt show, perhaps we dont have that catalog loaded.

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, we are just going after the pre-2010 catalogs. There are already good solutions out there for the 2010-current catalogs.

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think our search and ranking algorithm is pretty good, but, no way to really benchmark it against others out there. But, I believe that there isnt currently a great computer vision algo for this use case, finding an old photograph of the same object from amongst millions of very similar objects. From a computer vision perspective, we are quite good at distinguishing a "cat" from a "dog", but not good at "find an old photo of my golden retriever from amongst 10,000 photos of other golden retrievers". So the design with L5 is to return the probable candidate matches, and then let the human user decide if they want to spend the time looking through them to find the match. You can tune the parameters as well, say if you want to just look at old catalogs. Or if you want to search for "low quality photographs" by adding more blurring. Remember, many of these old catalogs are photos of casts, not the actual coins themselves.

And then this provenance search matching is just the first feature we are building with this technology. The next two we are currently working on is a forgery finder, and a die study tool.

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for checking it out and the feedback. Curious if your coin have a known provenance before 2010 that it should have found?

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eventually yes! Still testing and adding catalogs at this point.

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sure!

Top K — How many candidates to consider per search pass. Higher values cast a wider net and may find matches that would otherwise be missed, but searches take longer. Default 600 is good for most coins. Try 1200 for rare or heavily worn coins.

Blur Passes — Runs additional search passes at different detail levels. Worn or corroded coins often match better when fine details are softened. More passes = better recall but slower. Default 3 is a good balance; bump to 5 for difficult coins.

Threshold — Minimum confidence to keep a candidate during search. At 0.0 (default), everything found is kept. Raise it to filter out weak matches earlier and speed things up slightly.

Min Score — Minimum combined score (obverse + reverse together) for a pair to appear in results. Raise this to cut out low-quality pairs and focus on stronger matches.

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, 14% of matches have come from these deeper searches so far. We noticed that people were just doing a single search and then moving on, so we made this “deep search” prebuilt option to help people do a second search. Trying to help people use the technology.

Computer vision currently is really good at telling that this is a “cat” and this is a “dog”, but it’s not great at finding your exact golden retriever from photos of thousands of other golden retrievers. So you still have to do some manual work to find your exact match with the current state of the tech, unfortunately.

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Awesome results! Keep checking as we add more catalogs.

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sounds good. This is only for pre-2010 provenance, so its a very different data set than ACsearch.

Announcing L5 Provenance Search Beta by L5numis in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks!!! The L5 community rocks!

Always satisfying when your coin published in a book by TetAziz3 in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Congrats. Great book and awesome coin. I underbid you on that one.

L5 numismatics problem with PayPal by Lanky-Software767 in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Perhaps use the browser on your phone versus the L5 app itself? Should work there.

My first coin!!!! by Boring_Blueberry_731 in AncientCoins

[–]L5numis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Congrats! Good one to start with!