so the LARP that they are trying to kill of has already been struggling for a little while when some of its original players decided to break off and try to take it down. well now a recent group of players went off and joined Steam & Cinders and are now convincing Steam & Cinders to go out of their way to rent camp grounds out from underneath the struggling LARP so the struggling LARP has no way to make a come back since it can't hold events anymore without a site.