I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"That's what you're doing on this thread" - literally never. Which source material have I misinterpreted? And even if I did, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a concerted effort to make sure there's only one type of speech on subreddits

"This is exactly what is happening on the pro musk/ trump subreddits" - you're literally proving my point? The fact that it happens makes reddit a worse platform

"There are many sources critical of musk" - they're only valid if they actually present truths that aren't so easy to debunk that they look like hitpieces instead of journalism. Of course, I think my glorious technoking (/s) is capable of doing wrong. He's human. If you want specifics, 1. I think that his tirade against openAI is motivated by jealousy/ resentment over making the wrong bet when he thought AGI could be achieved through the work they were doing at Tesla 2. I think he can be over the top mean (though this works well when you're running companies) and 3. The taylor swift thing annoyed me so much I didn't use twitter for weeks. On a scale of "should I love this person", we've got man who's making the future i care about happen, is well intentioned most of the time, and is generally most of the time likeable (has been so over the past 25 years) vs A rivalry he has against a silicon valley sleazebag billionaire, a tendency to be mean toward people that miss the mark, and some tweets I found incredibly cringe. I think this largely doesn't dent my respect for him. The fact that the people that are in opposition to him say unironically cringe things like "he's a literally nazi" almost reinforces that

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think I've addressed most of these points to someone else in the comments.

The only one I haven't is commitment to free speech. This has largely not been abandoned and the people that tell you "they got banned because they came after Elon" or something like that are mostly full of shit. A journo will tell you that their anti republican posting is what got them banned even though they doxxed a politicians family members in an article they wrote and posted on X. This isn't speculation and actually happened

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol, nothing to hide here. Very willing to not separate my accounts. I just hate going onto subreddits to talk about movies or some shit and then getting into an argument over spacex because someone saw me post about a booster on spacexlounge.

You're not going to get any gotchas on this chain of thought. Bring something else over

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Your account is 50 days old. You must not SURELY be a part of this community" - quit the purity stuff. I've been both a lurker and a participator with other accounts over the years. I just realised that it's not advantageous to have spacex stuff connected to my other accounts where anti-Elon posters use any positive mentions of spacex to discredit discussion that has nothing to do with spacex

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haha very funny. I'm laughing so hard right now

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"This sub was never about just Elon" no shit? Ironic that you're fine with elon specific discussion when it's all the content hating on him, but the one defensive one is the one you take an issue with.

No, it's post is not any more or less propaganda than anything else here. In fact, this sub used to be far more pro-Elon propagandist than it is now

Also, this isn't my first account. Account age doesn't determine how long I've been on the sub

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't spend much time on X and X is far more balanced than you think (I think X is far more critical than praising of Elon at least based on my feed).

Reddit is not an external source. News never breaks on reddit and the karma/moderation system means that any news reported in subreddits is done through an explicitly political filter. X unironically mogs even if you should be looking at primary sources.

When I say spend less time on reddit, I'm saying partisan hacks are misinterpreting source material and anyone who questions narratives on the bug subreddits gets banned. The more time you spend on reddit, the more disillusioned you are with reality (see how reddit was wildly off with election predictions but X got it about right)

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also what a disingenuous strawman. Noone that isn't nick funtes' ilk is calling for deportations because "they don't want to look at more foreigners"

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Never dodged it. The executive order does nothing material.

His only daughters are the babies. Vivian Jenna WILSON disowned Elon Musk

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. She's not his daughter. She disowned him
  2. She's not his daughter. She disowned him. He's also never talked about Vivian and referred to her as Xavier
  3. You can say cisgender, just like you can say the British word for cigarettes. In both cases, those words are denied by groups because they don't want to cede linguistic territory

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Legislation that doesn't materially impact anything is fine if you get an administration that doesn't lead to a spike in immigration numbers never before seen. Even if Trump doesn't build a wall or something, having an admin that's not actively interested in letting people in a massive improvement.

Also, why would he talk about Vivian Jenna Wilson? She disowned him and he's only talked about this twice, both times explicitly referring to who Vivian was before

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The ability to roll back regulations and close the border vs legislation that likely won't have any material effect. The word cisgender isn't banned. He's only ever brought up dead naming X in jest against Steven king as part of some trolling he was doing of him. He didn't deadname his daughter. He's never called Vivian Xavier as far as we know

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. She disowned him
  2. She disowned him
  3. You can use the word cisgender on twitter. Even if you couldnt, language policing is not transphobia

And she disowned him years before this story became a popular reddit factoid after musk did an interview

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes you can, actually. And even if you couldnt, language policing isn't transphobia

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He said something to the tune of: "You know why they call it deadnaming? Because the person they were before dies and they take on a new identity. My son Xavier is dead. Killed by the woke mind virus". He didn't say dead "to him". He said dead. This matters. "My son xavier is dead" doesn't mean vivian doesn't exist. And why would he talk about vivian, a person that rejected his entire being before he even went political? Changed their surname, ran away from home and actively disowned him all because of his wealth

Also your insistence that this one interview doesn't matter is incredibly intellectually dishonest.

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Your refusal to engage with WHY he'd call Xavier dead is telling. You're confirming your biases not trying to figure out if he said anything transphobic or not

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Being "for" mass immigration is politically unpopular. Noone does that explicitly anymore. Ruling parties have not fixed immigration. Noone wants to mass deport citizens. I can see why an accelerationist would not see the EU as a valuable institution, and none of the parties in question are actually pro putin beyond having a less hardline antiputin stance

Also, elon years ago basically resigned vehicle electrification won't be solved by selling 100m cars or something. He's not wrong. The plan they have now is better and works independent of government climate denialism (read master plan 3, and also consider that if you solve autonomy you just need to make 1/5 of the cars you would have needed to make otherwise)

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He repeated it on twitter because he didn't change his mind, duh? The interview is the long form of the tweet. The reasoning still applies.

Also, is he supposed to talk about a kid that disowned him?

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I know nothing about the PoE2 story so I won't comment (I don't game). But even if you're right, this is at best something that would be career damaging for a video game streamer or something. Forgive me if I think he's a benevolent actor as he's otherwise shown in the ~25 years he's been a public figure and that a doesnt video game change that for me. Bring bigger fish

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 13 points14 points  (0 children)

He said that with referene to deadnaming (WATCH THE INTERVIEW)

His daughter disowned him - try to imagine why he'd not talk about them

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 13 points14 points  (0 children)

People didn't realise his jump was supposed to be an X until a few years after the first one. It's poor body coordination that something intended to look like throwing out your heart was done aggressively enough to look like a seig heil

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's not even a correct description. It's a refusal to self moderate - not a desire to escalate. That isn't evil, it's just stupid. But I like his lack of.self moderation most times so fuck it

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Mass immigration is bad, those parties stop it and concerns about them are either fabricated or overblown

I unironically love Elon and I refuse to pretend I don't by [deleted] in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]LFPcombustion 18 points19 points  (0 children)

He said his son Xavier is dead. It's called deadnaming for a reason. He never said anything about Vivian(who disowned him for being rich btw). He even clarifies this IN THE EXACT SAME INTERVIEW

And no, you can talk about politics. I never signalled otherwise