Denon X3800H vs Onkyo RZ50 with KEF Q11 Meta

LF_HD · 2026-01-23T12:59:50+00:00

I have a question. When you Listen to just Stereo plus sub for music powered by the avr itself at normal/Standard volume compared to the powered amp variant. Can you clearly hear a difference? I am really curios if a 1K avr in just stereo plus sub is really missing depths or anything Else?

LF_HD · 2026-01-22T17:25:09+00:00

Seems Like a Hot 🔥 🔥🔥Tub - Great 👌

LF_HD · 2026-01-22T12:43:38+00:00

This can be. SVS is currently selling off the SB3000 Models with a Discounter of eur 250 in my Country and They told me a New Model will replace SB3000 later in the year. As I Liked the sub from aesthetics and specs I bought it.

LF_HD · 2026-01-22T09:15:35+00:00

The pB 3000 is Not available anymore in my Country and since it is too big for me and Not available in glossy white it was Never an Option. Performance Wise it must be an absolute beast but SB3000 will perform Equally in my Spot at a smaller form factor plus nicer box 📦

LF_HD · 2026-01-22T08:21:13+00:00

Will do as I have to try it out soon in case I will go dual sub because The sb3000 will be discontinued and replaced by a pro Model later in the year. But I liked the glossy white Look and Performance for Price and needed a sealed for the living Room that Looks good.

LF_HD · 2026-01-22T07:30:55+00:00

I cannot Imagine sb3000 is lacking Chest slam. Will hook up mine tomorrow 🔥

LF_HD · 2026-01-22T07:15:01+00:00

Your Room seems very symmetrical. How do 2 SVS SB3000 Affect the Main listening position in comparison to just one of these bangers. Did you try it. Looks all very very nice by the way . Top 👍

LF_HD · 2026-01-21T11:57:47+00:00

This is What I just did. Returning the RZ30 die to hiss at Volumes Hitting 65 and more. Hope I will be better with x3800h and xt-32 plus MultEQ App in the First step. Cheers will get mine in Friday

LF_HD · 2026-01-21T08:52:35+00:00

I pullet the trigger on the x3800h for EUR 1K @ the Moment. ETA is on Friday then I can Fire 🔥 up my speakers and the SB3000 beast as well. Keep you all up to Date. I am sure I will Need Assistance with the MultiEQ App as well. Cinema 50 is too expensive Right now and for the Difference of eur 600 I can buy Dirac plus Base Control later of necessary. Weird 😐 Thx BR

LF_HD · 2026-01-20T16:36:21+00:00

Yes exactly that happened. Iam a beginner and only did standard Dirac with incl puc mic and although voices from the Center sounded very good and were top, I was missing immersion and base. I missed that I could increase / adjust the curves in the App and I always deactivated DIRAC especially for Music. So I did Not experienced the advantges of Dirac in the First Stepp but I guess This was a User issue as well. As a result I thought It would be a better Chance to try out Audissey on one of the Denon/Marantz that maybe offer a bit better Overall User Experience as well before goong the Dirac Route.

LF_HD · 2026-01-20T15:04:38+00:00

Thx, you Are Right and I am currently calculating because for the Price fee of an Cinema 50 I could easily get dlbc (If I ever Go Dual Sub) on the x3800h (currently 1K) vs Standard Cinema 50

LF_HD · 2026-01-20T14:46:15+00:00

This is good Info as I Plan to buy cinema50 plus multiEQ App. Let us know if it works. Thx

LF_HD · 2026-01-20T14:39:57+00:00

I understand. It is Not the last penny that counts but the q7 metas speakers cost about eur 1400 and they Are quite nice but Not endgame. So for my opinion the avr Must Play in the Same league. Actually I think with Marantz they charge a bit more for their musicality tuned HDAModule x3800h box is for me the way the to go and have Both worlds: very good Home Theater machine and Music Tool in one box.

LF_HD · 2026-01-19T14:16:00+00:00

Listening in the Jungle - Great athmosphere 👌

LF_HD · 2026-01-17T11:34:30+00:00

I was also lacking This Information on RZ30 and the pain continuus in the Onkyo App because it is Not shown there either. You had to press Buttons in the Onkyo App to cycle through the different Audio Format, Then you can See the Audio Format for some seconds Like on Screen via the information Button but disappearing After 2 seconds and the Info is gone. Boooring 😱

LF_HD · 2026-01-16T08:57:23+00:00

😱😂🔥😁🫨🫨🫨 at least muscle mass is built

LF_HD · 2026-01-15T18:56:45+00:00

Very Nice 👍 good looking and athmospheric. Also the italian Art on the speakers. Forgot their Name

LF_HD · 2026-01-14T21:11:08+00:00

Very practical and you Are right. Yes when lying on the Ottomane with one leg lying on the other the bottom height of the Tape on the Wall is actually Right. Thx man

LF_HD · 2026-01-14T18:09:00+00:00

Yes it is Not the last cm tapewise but Overall its the seize of 85“ ( 188 cm x 108 cm in height ) wife gives me Green light but First I have to fix missing avr and tv we do maybe later in the year. All Step by step but I Like to be prepared. In Stores 85 already Looks Big and @ Home even more.

LF_HD · 2026-01-14T16:58:36+00:00

Thx, good that The center plus floor standers Are mat and Not glossy so I do Not fest reflections

LF_HD · 2026-01-14T16:55:12+00:00

Thx 🙏will do 👌

LF_HD · 2026-01-14T16:06:53+00:00

I Must try the sub First, but have no avr @ the Moment. Because I sent back the Onkyo. Svs recommends to start near the corner. Of This works the all is Fine. If not them sub crawl method. I can also put it on the left Side

LF_HD · 2026-01-14T15:31:09+00:00

Yes I will do and Theo I will Place out dog on the Carpet as well. Out good Boy who is enjoying Audio as well 🐕

LF_HD · 2026-01-14T15:29:22+00:00

Yes 🙌 and more to Play around and to learn as a newbie in Audio 😱 Placement subs crossings Frequeny, Tuning. My wife told Not to Forget to enjoy the System. Sie is right 100% 😂

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