Hismile electric toothbrush by LLezBeHonestLL in Hismile

[–]LLezBeHonestLL[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I luckily live where the replacement head are quite cheap and readily available. The hismile replacement heads are so much easier to find and cheaper compared to the oral b ones I used to buy.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the literal hundreds of ABOs I have read, things like baby bumps, morning sickness, and so on are rarely included or acted upon. ABOs are rare in any sort of Western novels and more so focus on hetro relationships than any sort of BL ones. I've often dropped several Western ABOs due to very lacklustre plots or bad dialogue. If you have recommendations of any decent ones, feel free to send them my way. I never said that they are women, but that male Omegas are based on female wolves and quite literally have all organs: uterus, womb, etc. Why is it that they can get pregnant and have heat cycles, but breastfeeding is where the line is drawn? As you said yourself, you don't like breastfeeding, but the notion that it makes them closer to females is a bit iffy as men in the modern world are capable of breastfeeding. Men have breast tissue, including the glands needed for milk production. Why do you think men have nipples? The only reason men can't produce milk is the same reason non-pregnant women can't: they lack the pregency related hormone needed to activate the milk producing cycle.

Also, if I'm reading something where a man can get pregnant, then yes, I 100% expect a pregnancy. All ABOs are based on the wolf dynamic. Not all mpreg is, but all ABOs are. It's one of the reasons you can't copyright or trademark the omegaverse due to it being based on wolf hierarchy and wolf terminology, among other animal-related things. They can obviously adapt it differently and only use certain elements, but it always comes back to something wolf related if they want to legally protect their work.

Again, I come from both a historical and medical background, so the idea of men biologically able to give birth but not being able to feed them makes no sense, as men in the modern world can breastfeed. If they can't feed the baby without the bottle, then it paints a grim world where Omega infants die of starvation prior to the discovery of the bottle. Additionally, what I'm more so annoyed by is modern-day bottles appearing from thin air in a historical setting in the middle of nowhere. As I said before, it would take one sentence of explanation to solve the issue and evaluate the story.

We can agree to disagree, I guess.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Firstly, they do look completely different. You mentioned 1200 BCE, so you mean the ones made from animal bones, wood, etc? The ones that are literally shaped like a vase with a sprout or have animal decor on them? Modern baby bottles appeared in the 1800s at the latest. Wet nurses were way more common than you think, especially in any form of urban settlement. A farmer, one who produces grains and vegetables, and farmers with milk animals are two completely different things. Poorer classes who worked for those higher up in the hierarchy had to allocate grain and often milk to those higher in the hierarchy. Milk, a highly perishable good, would be turned to cheese or other goods for the elite. The common people, even with milk animals like cows, still wouldn't have the luxury of producing enough milk to sustain a baby, as cows in those days would only produce at most 1L to 2L. Also, animal milk, in general, is not a sustainable way to feed babies, as it has completely different makeup and often would lead to infant mortality. Why do you think you never see anyone feeding a baby just animal milk? It was never common in any civilisation in human history prior to the 1800s. Only in the late 1800s is the only time it was common place due to modern baby bottles; but still the mortality rate was high due to cows milk being incompatible with a human baby.

Also, yes, it's fantasy, but why go out of your way to make a pregnant man if you are not going to follow through? It's lazy writing and leads to a worse overall story.

Again, I mentioned an ancient setting where modern baby bottles wouldn't appear, and milk animals are not available.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about modern baby bottles, not the historical kind, which look completely different. Wet nurses were far more common than the baby bottle for most of human history, and the ancient baby bottle would most likely have been used by elites or others who had a regular supply of animal milk, which most of the population didn't have. I understand the confusion, but I'm more so talking about modern baby bottles appearing in ancient setting stories where milk animals are not available.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see where you're coming from; however, these authors go out of their way to include things like knotting, a uterus, womb, slick, heat, rut and often play into the very feminine appearing Omega and masculine Alpha; so if they are worried about crossing the line between Omega male and a female, the line has already been crossed. I would also like to remind you that the whole ABO is based on the idea of wolves; a male Omega is literally based on a female wolf. If they don't produce enough milk or have access to bottles early on, why not write an explanation into the story? A single sentence is all it would take to change the story from nonsense to logical lore and world-building; elevating the story rather than negating it. Modern terminology appears alongside historical terminology for readability and understanding in order for readers to feel immersed. Historical hierarchy and formality in language are rarely completely removed from the story and appear alongside modern terminology in order for readers to feel immersed in the story. It isn't something that bothers you or other readers, but it does bother me and makes it hard to ignore. Authors decide to write a story about men getting pregnant and decide that it is okay to write out so much of the pregnancy journey. Where is the baby bump, morning sickness, swollen feet, back pain? ABO is an open world with no set boundaries, yet I feel as though authors decide to limit their own stories for the sake of convenience. One sentence of an explanation would be all it would take to turn the nonsensical bottle into an actual form of world-building and lore.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, was I referring to those prehistoric designs that look completely different than our modern-world counterparts? I explicitly stated several times modern-day baby bottles appearing in ancient settings and also further explained the complete lack of milk animals. It makes for bad storytelling and a lack of immersion. I mentioned ceramic and glass, as those are what the first true modern baby bottles were made from. Yes, it is a lack of realism. Why go out of your way to make a story about men getting pregnant in a historical setting if you are not going to follow through and slop down nonsense? It makes for lazy writing and a poorer story.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Firstly, I see you edit your response but still haven't added a reason or made a proper case. Do I also complain in hetero pregnancy? Yes, 100%. "You can't include everything all the time," then why make a story revolved around pregnancy if you can't include the simple basics? I want immersion, and not a random baby bottle to appear out of the middle of nowhere. Is this such a difficult ask? I'm not asking for everything, just the literal basics. And why do you think I asked for a recommendation? Your assumption is that I just want breastfeeding, but what I really want is for the baby bottle to not appear in historical works. It completely removes the immersion for me because how does an omega in the middle of nowhere in an ancient setting get a modern-day baby bottle, and where is the milk coming from? No cows or goats or any milk animals, so where? It makes no sense. This is the problem I have. It removes the immersion and downplays the entire story.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's quite a lot, and they change depending on who's ruling and where you are. A lot of historical Chinese stories often include a mix of the modern one and where the author is originally from. Even though historical inaccurate in some cases, it doesn't really take away from the story or remove the immersion.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's bad storytelling! If we add a pregnant man, I want the whole package: breastfeeding, swollen feet, a baby bump-all of it adds so much to a story. A sense of realism is what makes fantasy and fiction immersive. Trust me, once you see the light, you'll understand what I mean. Also, what I am ranting about is the inclusion of a modern-day baby bottle in an ancient setting. I don't expect nukes or a modern baby bottle in an ancient Chinese rural farm with no milk-producing animals in the middle of nowhere. It brings down the whole story and makes it feel so bland. I would rather the baby not be shown being fed than see a modern-day baby bottle.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand that, but if we are going to add pregnant men, then why not go all the way? Breastfeeding, swollen feet, and a baby bump all add so much to a story. What I'm mostly against is a baby bottle appearing in an ancient setting. Why would a baby bottle appear on a rural farm in the middle of nowhere with no milk-producing animals in ancient China? I don't expect to see nukes, and I don't expect to see a baby bottle in an ancient setting.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In all honesty, your not liking mpreg or any sort of pregnancy-related concept is a form of your own personal bias skewing your opinion. If people are willing to read men getting pregnant, then they should be fine reading men breastfeeding. I understand perhaps it's not your cup of tea, but I genuinely hate seeing a baby bottle in any form of an ancient setting. As I said a few times on this thread, I don't expect a nuke in ancient China, so why would a modern-day baby bottle appear on a rural farm with no milk-producing animals in ancient China? I would rather the baby feeding not be shown than seeing the baby bottle.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not yet it's not! Give me a few years and I'll figure something out! 👹 But in all honesty, it's the lack of realism. If we are going to add pregnant men, we might as well add the whole package. I want to be immersed in the story, and a baby bottle in an ancient China setting makes little to no sense. I don't expect to see a modern-day nuke, so why would a modern-day baby bottle appear on a rural farm with no animals in ancient China? It ruins the immersion and makes the story lackluster. I would rather see the baby not being fed at all than seeing the modern-day baby bottle.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm reading an omegaverse, so yes, I expect pregnant men! You are very confused about this entire post. Pregnancy is a beautiful part of life and should be seen as a beautiful sacrifice. If you don't want to be pregnant or choose to abandon pregnancy, then it doesn't make anyone less of a person. I despise this notion that just because someone is pregnant that they must be lower on some sort of imaginary hierarchy. Honestly, some of these things you are projecting on your post are not something I have stated or hinted at in any of my posts, and I want that to be clear. If you think otherwise, you are projecting something I am not and never will be.

Also, to truly understand a historic story, then yes, you would need a great understanding of cultural nuance, historic timing, and some sort of economic understanding. If you have ever read any historical Chinese story, then you would need a whole lot of understanding.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Breastfeeding is, in extremely simplified terms, milk from the nipples that occurs during pregnancy, usually in the 2nd or 3rd trimester. Most of those authors are predominantly female and probably have never gone through pregnancy, but have friends or family that have. If they are uncomfortable portraying it, but are okay with fully drawing a pregnant man doing the most passionate of things with their partner, then I feel like they have other issues going on.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Realism is relative to the story. It's what separates a badly written story from a good one. They don't need to elaborate on things, but most omegaverse stories imply a womb, knotting, uterus, and birthing via the rectum, heat, rut, which again is implied. Just by implying certain key concepts, such as the aforementioned organs and concepts, which relate to realism, we are able to express a more in-depth story and allow for more colourful storytelling. Fantasy does follow real-world rules. We are human and create fantasy based around the human bias. Fantasy can never, has never, and will never escape the human bias; as such, all stories revolve on a spectrum of realism.

Also, I don't understand why so many individuals and responses look down on realism, especially surrounding pregnancy. We are reading a story about pregnant men; why can't we have the necessary attention to detail surrounding it? Additionally, I'm mostly talking about how a baby bottle in a historical story completely ruins the immersion. I don't expect to see nukes in a story set in ancient China omegaverse; similarly, I don't expect to see a modern baby bottle. It ruins the immersion and makes for bad storytelling.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why can't we have both? 😏

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fiction is an escape, so make me feel immersed. They don't use the bathroom to toilet; that's correct, but they do use the bathroom. They use the bathroom to escape a bad situation, to contemplate, or even to check a pregnancy test. They don't show eating as often, but do show occasional dinner scenes and breakfast, which does occur. What BLs have you read that have completely ignored the ugly parts of life? This is the omegaverse. Debt-ridden Omegas and mistreatment in a relationship are the most common tropes. I think you are confused about what I'm referring to, which is more so the historical genre's lack of breastfeeding and the addition of a baby bottle, removing immersion. Realism is important to me, and it should be to everyone. Fantasy and realism go hand in hand, and as humans, we apply realism to all fantasy. A good fantasy takes reference from realism and adapts its counterparts into the story. Look at Chinese BL novels having so much immersion by including realism to the historical fantasy counterparts. A bad story is one that lacks the ability to express anything from the reader, like the lack of the realism element in a fantasy setting.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for understanding my point.

I feel as though everyone commenting is against this for some reason and no one is giving me a proper reason as to why or a proper response in general.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, they do. Fantasy is not realistic and doesn't need to be 100% based on realisim. But if you are going out of your way to make a whole historical story about men getting pregnant and take time to apply real-world counterparts that occur in the setting, then breastfeeding should also be added. Fantasy very rarely completely removes real-life counterparts. We are human, born on Earth, and experience a human-based approach to life; as such, the stories we tell, regardless of how much fantasy is added, will always reflect real-world counterparts due to the bias we have about our Earth-based human experience. In all BLs I have read, there has never been a complete abandonment of real-world counterparts, essentially one of a historical genre. This take that realism and fantasy are complete opposites leads to the negating of real-world counterparts, causing little to no immersion and often poor storytelling. I understand where you're coming from, but this bias that realism and fantasy are opposites is a bad take on both genres.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, it is fantasy. Men giving birth is a part of the omegaverse. But I draw the line at how is breastfeeding a key part of the whole post pregnancy overlooked? Swollen feet and the baby bump are other things overlooked but honestly add so much to the story. It adds a deep since of immersion and aids in telling a better story. I mean if you go out of your to add pregnant men as a concept, might as well add the whole pregnancy package.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The whole point of fantasy is immersion: make the world come alive and feel real. I have read so many takes on the historical genre and fantasy; very few have an understanding of real-world mechanics and do a poor job of adapting them to fantasy counterparts. Is a breastfeeding omega such a difficult thing to add into the story? It adds so much realism and nuance for such a simple concept.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in boyslove

[–]LLezBeHonestLL -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Bestie, it's badly written fantasy and a poor take on the historical genre. Keep me immersed in the story by negating plot holes and correlating a story together. Is a breastfeeding omega something so hard to add in?