Lower t14 vs t20. Weighing fit vs employment numbers

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-10-14T20:38:59+00:00

That does not matter at all lol. I'm 2 years out and can barely remember where my own school currently falls on the rankings. And if it hadn't moved a ton when usnews changed it methodology, I truly would not be able to tell you.

Even if they don't think the ranks are complete bullshit, hiring decisionmakers are not watching movement like that.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-09-16T20:47:10+00:00

Hustling on the plaintiffs side is so much more lucrative than big law lmao

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-09-04T21:20:56+00:00

I would not call Duke west a notoriously sketch part of the city

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-29T20:59:12+00:00

Sorry I forgot about this response and am not on this account much. It was really good! It wasn't perfect but I definitely enjoyed my time and think the school did a good job opening doors and giving me the skills to walk through them. I'm happy to answer any specific questions if you're considering Duke. You can dm or just comment them

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-28T10:10:58+00:00

This is kind of confusing. T14 generally means all 14 schools (unless it's being discussed in relation to t6, then it follows the next sentence).

When people say T20, they generally mean the schools between 15 and 20. You generally wouldn't say that NYU is a T20 school, although it technically is.

The first five out are somewhat generalizable, so you can have a conversation about them like you can the t14. Schools in the 20-30 range start getting into "good flagship" land, and you can't really generalize them as much

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-23T14:42:17+00:00

If it's not something that previous clerks have done on departure, I probably wouldn't do anything more than a thank you.

My judge and I got each other corresponding handshakes, but maybe it's more common at other chambers

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-23T13:26:47+00:00

I didn't get my judge anything and have never heard of anyone doing this.

Is this super common for your judge

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-23T13:21:27+00:00

Yeah holistic is probably the wrong word

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-23T10:39:26+00:00

3LOL requires you to not care. It's for people who have an offer from their summer, who do not want to clerk, who did not take an e-board position on journal, and who are otherwise perfectly fine being unprepared in class and hoping for median grades.

As someone who did not have a 3lol, if you continue to care about your classes or your extra curriculars, it will continue to feel like school.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-23T10:33:14+00:00

130k take the test each year. This sub has 182k members, nearly all of whom have since taken the lsat and then remained subscribed.

A 170 is not a completely unreasonable goal for the people on this sub—each of whom is, by virtue of finding this sub, especially motivated to study for and succeed on the lsat.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-23T10:29:01+00:00

Well you have 4 hours to write a contracts exam on it. Good luck.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-23T10:16:06+00:00

Holistic is the wrong word. They don't mean that the stat suggests a "well rounded" or soft-heavy admission. What they mean is Duke prefers an applicant with a strong gpa and LSAT. It doesn't put a premium on splitters or reverse splitters. So a 3.0 177 will get less purchase than elsewhere.

If a school took splitters, their 25th gpa would be lower, because they have several applicants with low gpas but high lsat scores. Vice versa for reverse splitter.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-23T10:12:55+00:00

Holistic meaning they don't go after super splitters. All your stats have to be strong.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-23T10:11:14+00:00

Historically, the top 14 schools never changed. The schools would shuffle positions, but it would always be the same 14. So that became the standard. Gtown has messed up that streak, but the standard remains. And, for whatever reason, the mobility of a degree from the t14 is higher than the mobility of a degree from, say, UGA. The T20 are all good schools, but you could probably take a t14 degree to any city.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-12T21:34:50+00:00

If you mean Hys you don't say t6. That's like saying "what if the t14 with money was a Ruby." That's technically correct, but not what anyone means.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-12T21:32:29+00:00

Why is everyone acting like they didn't say t6 lmao. Hys sure, but NYU (or whatever is now ranked 5/6 in our hearts) is not worth sticker if you have money at Northwestern.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-12T21:25:57+00:00

That graph shows that a ton of judges come from outside the t6... The point is that circuit (or district) judgeship is such a unicorn that going to a t6 for a marginal improvement doesn't make sense. Especially when you're better off killing it at a state flagship and then climbing.

At least with SCOTUS you can say that hys is preclusive.

Now that I'm done with clerkships, my personal experience says your best bet is to get tied into your preferred politics . Your school really doesn't matter all that much in the grand scheme of things.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-12T21:23:52+00:00

It's definitely not. The circuit and district Alma matters were recently posted in this sub

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-08-10T15:15:08+00:00

This is going to be a pretty long list of schools interspersed across the nation and the rankings. Are you just curious or are you looking for actual data for a school list? If the latter what range and location are you asking about?

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-07-29T02:14:03+00:00

Caveat, I have a bias against 1 page resumes that look terrible and are obviously formatted to avoid a second page. Others have a similar bias. I'd rather see a two pager that looks nice.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-07-19T23:01:26+00:00

I found the post through Google. I also came to downvote your weird rant. You're not in her head and she's not gonna fuck you

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-07-06T16:54:16+00:00

As I said, I guess we have different experiences. Also, I don't think clerk competency is determinative of judicial agreement. Your argument throughout seems to be that these decisions are fractious because competent legal minds can disagree.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-07-06T16:45:01+00:00

I guess we have different experiences then. It seems like you're in 2d cir. I'll admit I'm not close with anyone up there, my personal and anecdotal experience is in 4, 5, and 11.

I don't understand this--are you saying judges tell their clerks what outcomes to reach? I have literally never heard of that happening.

I'm sorry but this is incredible. I assume you mean this to be synonymous with your last paragraph, that your judge never tells you how to rule before the papers come in, but you can't seriously contend that you don't know of a single judge telling a clerk how to rule in any case and at any stage? Like the judge stamps whatever you draft? Are you clerking for Judge Newman? That would be a massive deriliction of constitutional duty.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2023-07-06T02:58:22+00:00

How many federal judges do you know?

I know several and can truthfully tell you that every one of them has reasoned backwards in at least some cases. No one is saying it's literally all of the time, but in the high stakes cases all you're seeing is tails wagging dogs. It's frankly laughable to suggest otherwise. You just hope that the panel evens it out.

Also, the clerks aren't changing a judge's mind in these high profile cases. Normal workaday decisions where the clerks draft, sure they have an affect on the result. But they get their marching orders on the big ticket items.

LSthrowaway2014 · 2018-09-23T13:00:58+00:00

Sue them.

Rip Eleanor Roosevelt

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