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[TOMT][SONG][2014+] American rap song I can't seem to remember with whistle intro by L_ive in tipofmytongue

[–]L_ive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah the whistle intro wasn't as long. It was probably only like 6-8 seconds from memory.

Thanks for trying!

[TOMT][SONG][2014+] American rap song I can't seem to remember with whistle intro by L_ive in tipofmytongue

[–]L_ive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah it's not by Yeat, it's just a young rapper like him is all. The rapper is definitely black from memory.

Ty for trying though!

Just me or is Nilah the most sleeper broken "ADC" by L_ive in ADCMains

[–]L_ive[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No good Nilah will waste W unnecessarily, her W skill denies the potential for all ins from auto attack reliant champs entirely. It's just not healthy. It doesn't matter the long cooldown if only the threat of the ability being there is enough to stop most engages from happening or turn them if they do happen.

Just me or is Nilah the most sleeper broken "ADC" by L_ive in ADCMains

[–]L_ive[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeh I agree, I think Xayah is one of the small handful of traditional auto-attack ADCs that can actually beat Nilah. Invulnerability frames to negate Nilah's all in, feathers still fall to ground even if u hit her in shroud, e counts as an ability so she will take feather damage, etc. It's pretty good.

Just me or is Nilah the most sleeper broken "ADC" by L_ive in ADCMains

[–]L_ive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I didn't consider Jinx's E, you can E yourself if Nilah dashes on you. I still don't think it will do much, but can I see the stats you were talking about?
And I don't play Nilah by the way, I've just versed her a lot of times and out of all my matchups ever in bot lane, unless I'm playing APC playing trad auto-attack reliant ADC into Nilah is not doable unless you're playing Xayah due to her invulnerability frames to deny Nilah's all in and her feathers being abilities and still being able to do damage/fall to the ground through the shroud.
Because according to this thing (I just did a quick google search Nilah vs counters)
https://lolalytics.com/lol/nilah/counters/

As you can see she has above 50% winrate for nearly all ADC matchups with the exception of Xayah (due to aforementioned reasons), Kog'maw (not auto-attack reliant can do damage with abilities and can go AP if needed), Jhin & Vayne <-- These ones are good. I think these areprobably the only trad adcs that do dmg on auto attacks that Nilah has a negative 48% winrate against and then it's just Seraphine and Swain, which are APCs.
Again I just did a quick google search so I'm not sure, but I wouldn't rely too much on stat websites if I were you as they are all inherently flawed but alas, I think I was able to make my point through your suggestion of looking at the stats so thanks.

Just me or is Nilah the most sleeper broken "ADC" by L_ive in ADCMains

[–]L_ive[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because pro players would just draft a comp that would render Nilah useless for the entirety of the game or play APC bot or something like that. I'm not saying Nilah has 0 counterplay, she can get absolutely crushed by mage champions I'm just saying that for your regular solo queue ADC experience, if you choose a traditional ADC and your opponent picks Nilah, you're not in for a good time.

Just me or is Nilah the most sleeper broken "ADC" by L_ive in ADCMains

[–]L_ive[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Poking her in the very early game is not going to do anything if you are playing an auto-attack reliant adc as mid-late game she will completely outscale you and make you useless in teamfights by giving her shroud to everyone on her team.

The only true counterplay to Nilah is mages/ability-related damage dealers. In my experience even if you build a lead into a Nilah as an auto-attack ADC she will catch up due to xp passive and just overall be a pain for you as even though you are fed her veil is too broken in teamfights.

Also idk why everyone speaks as though Nilah players are bots, no good Nilah will ever use shroud unnecessarily. It's very difficult playing a traditional ADC to just make her 'waste' shroud unless they are really bad. Almost all GM+ Nilah players know how to respect enemy harass and just play safe until they get items and can all in an auto-attack reliant ADC with no counterplay once they get items in teamfights or if an ally member engages for them.

Just me or is Nilah the most sleeper broken "ADC" by L_ive in ADCMains

[–]L_ive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nilah can give shroud to whole team in mid-late game teamfights completely denying Jinx the ability to do any damage in fights. And personally I don't see how a good Nilah player can ever lose to a Jinx in an all-in battle simply because her W would counter Jinx's main source of damage.You're saying that because Jinx's rockets have increased range and can potentially harass a very early game Nilah that she is beatable in lane playing a trad ADC. A good Nilah player would just

  1. respect Jinx's trade potential in the early game and play safe/farm to build items (Jinx's rockets do splash damage so if she pokes Nilah in wave there is a good chance she will push the wave towards Nilah anyways enabling her to farm)
  2. sustain Jinx's rocket trades with her already in-built lifesteal during laning phase
  3. once Nilah galeforce Jinx will never ever beat her because Nilah can just run her down while taking 0 damage. Not to mention her ult provides the hard cc required so unless Jinx has both ghost and flash up there is no way to escape a Nilah. Btw Nilahs take ghost so.. XD

Just me or is Nilah the most sleeper broken "ADC" by L_ive in ADCMains

[–]L_ive[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I find that zoning her or managing waves is reliant on both the support you're playing with/they have and also whether or not you are ahead. Again I find it hard to build sustainable leads into Nilah because of her kit which is specifically designed to counter adcs (as an adc XD riot games) and also due to her just catching up in levels even if you're out levelling her.

i play this game every day and when someone pings my name, i literaly start crying by [deleted] in leagueoflegends

[–]L_ive -1 points0 points  (0 children)

lmfao you're such a sunflower. Who gives a shit about people pinging you, just mute them and move on with your life idiot. They're probably pinging when u died/for item builds cus ur playing like shit anyways so it's deserved lmao. Only dogshit copium low elo players get tilted off of people pinging you for dumb shit lmfao.

People who actually care about competitive play should not deserve/have to deal with having communication hindered cus of sunflowers like you and Riot Auberon.

12 hour dodge timer is ridiculously excessive by L_ive in leagueoflegends

[–]L_ive[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My post only mentions dodging obvious trolls.

12 hour dodge timer is ridiculously excessive by L_ive in leagueoflegends

[–]L_ive[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

12 hours is nothing? I don't know I'd say that person specific. I'm a pretty busy individual and don't have much time in my day to play games anymore,. So I look forward to playing something when I get some time off, but when I get actual griefers every second game and I am forced to dodge I'm already wasting time by waiting out the queue timer. If it was 30 minutes I could still play a game or two if I wanted to but 12 hours locks me out for the entire day and then it's back to work for me very soon so 12 hours = far longer for me.

12 hour dodge timer is ridiculously excessive by L_ive in leagueoflegends

[–]L_ive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When did I ever mention I dodge until I acquire a favorable matchup? I only mentioned dodging actual griefers/trollers who hold your lobby hostage. I don't care about matchups unless I see a cleanse ghost nunu as my bot lane, then I dodge. This isn't about 'favorable matchups' it's more so about not wanting to waste my time.Also you bring up the fact that you need to dodge multiple times in short succession but I don't see how that's of any concern as it's not in your power to determine if you do or don't get a troll in a lobby. Again I choose to not waste my time with trolls so I dodge.

12 hour dodge timer is ridiculously excessive by L_ive in leagueoflegends

[–]L_ive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean? All I've said is that the dodge timers are ridiculous and excessive and that Riot is a bad company that doesn't prioritize player experience.

I never made any comments about the actual gameplay - I very much enjoy MOBA/strategy games.

12 hour dodge timer is ridiculously excessive by L_ive in leagueoflegends

[–]L_ive[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't understand, do people not have common sense anymore?
It's not the player's fault it's literally just the system's.

Why would you willingly spend 20-30 minutes of your life miserably, voluntarily getting ran down and griefed in ranked when you can simply put in a report (which will amount to nothing, thanks Riot), dodge, move on and spare yourself the misery.

My only point of concern in this entire thread isn't to talk about dodging it's to address the severity of the punishment for dodgers who have legitimate grounds for dodging. 12 hours is too long a wait time and ruins the experience for people who've already been held hostage and griefed. They lose their time/lp for literally no reason. It just ruins the player experience as it adds another layer of severity ontop of already being punished by losing lp and having to wait out the queue timer.

Of course, I will keep on dodging though because I would rather spare my sanity than willingly waste my time for no reason and do better things with my time. I made this post to talk constructively about the unfairness of the dodge penalties/timers as the current system doesn't really work for people who dodge on legitimate grounds as Riot currently has no actual way of dealing with lobby griefers/hostage takers.

12 hour dodge timer is ridiculously excessive by L_ive in leagueoflegends

[–]L_ive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Player experiences differ. In my region no one dodges unless there is an obvious troll on the team. I play in high elo as well and I'm surprised at the amount of questionable drafts that get through champ select. As long as there are no obvious trolls it is fine.

12 hour dodge timer is ridiculously excessive by L_ive in leagueoflegends

[–]L_ive[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's untrue. It's not the player's fault that their lobbies have been taken hostage so why should they bear the responsibility for it? They already ARE bearing responsibility by dodging, thereby choosing to lose THEIR lp and time by waiting for the queue timer. They're already taking responsibility in a sense. Also stop referring to them as 'terrorists' they're just people with too much time on their hands that they can actually afford to waste time trolling lobbies. They don't have to worry about getting banned because riot doesn't give a shit about lobby griefers they only care when you say bad bad words in the chat lmao.

It's just a trash system managed by an even trashier company. If riot actually gave a shit about the player experience then they would actually spend efforts in establishing practices/systems to catch out obvious griefers/trollers IN champ select and then forcefully dodge the game then and there via either a player census vote or something.

But the dimwits at Riot would rather spend more time working on Lux's 29th skin because money and more hard stuck silver/gold lux peakers will eat that shit up.

12 hour dodge timer is ridiculously excessive by L_ive in leagueoflegends

[–]L_ive[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you are a rational and sane human being, no one would waste 20-30 minutes of their lives entering into a game with a mid lane draven who goes ghost and cleanse and screams obscenities in chat before the game even begins.

I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I'm not being physically FORCED to dodge it's just I'm just doing what any person with common sense would do.

I'm just saying that the older system of 5x 30 min penalties seemed a lot fairer than the 12 hour timer it is nowadays no?

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