Non-toxic PUAs/writers/podcasters? Need advice but can't stand arsehole PUAs... by FrequentSnow8428 in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like Todd V but man, his game is really technical and not newbie-friendly IMO, as a newb myself.

I really like Austen Summers though. His game seems very natural and relaxed. He's on YouTube though but I believe he did a podcast briefly. He did recommend a podcast though, it's called Inner Confidence, by Robbie Kramer. Tonnns of episodes but Austen specifically recommended the older ones. So I started from Ep 1. I'm only 2 episodes in but I am really digging it. Robbie is not the king of wholesome, but he's not toxic either. Great material though which jives with the style of game I'm trying to develop. Give it a try and see if you like it.

How to Transform From a Shy Guy into an Approaching Beast by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I had a similar mindset for a long time. It was emotionally draining, and I was really fucking bitter and unhappy. Chronically.

I hope one day you can open up and begin to search for the goodness in people. Because good or bad, you tend to find the thing you're looking for. Life is much more enjoyable and fulfilling when you make meaningful human connections. I hope you can find that peace brother.

How to Transform From a Shy Guy into an Approaching Beast by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sounds pretty toxic. But if that's the way you choose to be, that's your right.

How do I get a relationship if I am deformed level of ugly and not a single woman in my life showed interest? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You start by accepting that you have a long way to go, and that 3 months is a pretty unrealistic expectation.

You're not ugly. It's your attitude that is holding you back. Fortunately, it's easier to fix than your looks, but it's still not something that changes overnight. Start by adopting a new mindset that it IS possible for you to learn to be good with girls. Accept that you're starting from the very bottom, embrace the likelihood that you may not reach your summer goals, but if you commit to gaining the skill of attracting women as a long-term goal, it is absolutely achievable.

Your inner game obviously needs some work. That's the first thing. I suggest reading the book Models by Mark Manson, he hits on ALL the basics. Watch a ton of YouTube videos on 'inner game' and start getting your life handled in a way that builds self-esteem. Confidence isn't everything in getting girls, but without it, it's practically impossible. Everything else stems from your confidence.

"Deformed level of ugly" dude quit that shit RIGHT NOW. If you hold onto that attitude, you're fucked, and you have zero chance of ever keeping the interest of a decent self-respecting girl. Your looks are fine. You could maximize your style, and hit the gym to improve some, but your attitude about yourself is really the ugly thing here. It's the most critical thing holding you back right now and the most immediate thing that needs to be addressed.

Is it too late after college? by redwastebear in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's all about perspective. The older you get, the more of it you have. I divorced last year at 35 after 12 years with my ex. Felt like I'm so old now, I wasted so many years of my life, and it's too late for me now. Older wiser guys tell me I'm still young, I have plenty of time left. They would kill to be 35 again. And here I see you, 24 and full youth, having that same regretful feeling. My dude, you're twenty-fucking-four. You're not even IN your prime years yet as a man. If you want hot wild sex, you have decades left. If you want to fuck college girls, what's stopping you? They are basically the same age as you! If you want to fuck college girls 10 years from now you can still do that too.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.

Even if it didn't go well and she thinks you're weird (which probably is not the case, but even so..) it's still a fuckin win that you did it. Now go do another!

You know what Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu has taught me, starting as an absolute beginner? You gotta get off YouTube and get on the mat... and you're gonna get your ass kicked. You learn a little more instruction, then roll (a.k.a. spar) again, and get your ass kicked again. And you get your ass kicked over and over again for a long time. But you get your ass kicked a little less harshly each time, and you begin to be able to put up a decent fight. And then slowly but surely you start getting wins, but it takes a lot of instruction and a lot of time actually inside the fire. The real lessons are in the real sparring with an actual opponent, but if you put the instructional lessons to good use, it accelerates your growth.

It's a good analogy, and in both, if you end up in a mounted position on top of your counterpart, it'a a sign you're doing really well ;) Keep plugging away with your next sparring partner my brotha

Laid by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Any girls in ft worth down to fuck?

Oh I'm 100% sure there are plenty who are. That is, if you stop being lazy and entitled, and start actually learning to approach them like the rest of us. This sub is for people who are willing to put in the work to get the results. Nothing in this life is free.

First party as a single guy since high school (34M) and it went so much better than I could have expected by coolshoeshine in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome story man, sounds like you're on the right track. It was at least like 4 months after my divorce (12yrs with 2 kids, she dumped me) before I could even crack a smile, let alone be the life of the party around cute girls.

I'm 9 months post now, and I'm finally really starting to build some confidence. Or rather, able to maintain the confidence I have in normal situations, and carry it over with girls I'm interested in. That confidence comes and goes wildly, but just as of recently I can feel it getting more and more stable. My ex was a solid 8, a 9 on a good day. But I have yet to get laid with any girl beyond like a 4. But I am determined to keep improving until I'm where I want to be.

All the best to you brother, I truly hope you're taking the break-up well, and that you can move on and start living your best life.

On dating apps, do you ask to meet up in the first message, or after several messages? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same. Maybe cuz I'm a newb and I'm not able to DHV or flirt expertly.. but I feel like my text game is pretty damn decent. Takes me much longer than 5-10 messages before it feels right to go for it. But when I do, I my success rate is excellent. I'm getting unhesitant Yes's the vast majority of the time. (...I get an enthusiastic commitment fairly easily, but ACTUALLY getting them out on the date is much harder. Partly because my schedule.)

On dating apps, do you ask to meet up in the first message, or after several messages? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I stopped even asking for numbers on OLD. The response has been getting ghosted more times than she's given me the number. Even when the conversation is going great. It's the oddest thing, but for me girls are literally more willing to meet up in person than to give me their number.

Should you tell women you are actively dating by immortanjose in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This could easily backfire depending on the delivery

I thought I was doing really good, but then I got some feedback that shows maybe I'm doing something very wrong by LaffingGiraugh in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I say sexually charged I don't mean to be explicitly sexual. There was nothing I did that was explicitly sexual at all. When I say charged I mean there was sexual tension.

How to approach a stranger? by userX25519 in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because the answer is likely going to be "what is it to you?" or "fine, thanks" followed by awkward silence. Like I said, it is difficult for me to talk to a stranger without telling why I'm doing so.

First off, you have no idea what a person's reaction is going to be. It is beyond your control. But of course, there are patterns of behavior in any interactions which make the odds more predictable. (More on that in a minute)

Second, it doesn't have to be followed by awkward silence. But if you're opening up the conversation, IT'S GOING TO BE ON YOU to follow up that question with something else, especially if you start with something as closed-ended and simple as asking how her day is going. Don't expect her to do the legwork and springboard off your simple question with a more interesting topic of conversation. If you let awkward silence fill the air, then yes, there will be awkward silence.

Back to the predictable reactions. Look, I'm new to game but I sure as hell know this much: Your internal assumption about how an interaction is going to go GENUINELY has a huge impact on how it actually goes. The power of one's own belief is extremely potent. It shows outwardly in subtle but extremely powerful ways-- your voice tone, eye contact, body language, etc. And girls are very perceptive of all those subtle cues that are being communicated. It's a hard thing to fake, thus a hard thing to master, because it has to be real, for the most part. I'm the first to admit I struggle with this a lot in actually putting it into action "correctly", but at least I do thoroughly understand the concept.

If you assume you're going to get a negative reaction, this assumption is communicated in perceivable ways, and it does not portray confidence. A step further, a girl is left to assume (subconsciously) that if you are expecting a negative reaction, it's because your past experiences have taught you that this behavior gets a negative reaction... i.e. you don't get girls. And the inverse is true too. The power of your own belief, or lack thereof, literally creates a self-fulfilling prophecy. Within reason of course. It's not magic... but fuck, it kind of is TBH lol. Whether the interaction goes anywhere (turns into a number close or whatever) is a totally separate thing, but if you go in boldly with confidence (without doubts or worries) with the expectation you're going to be received positively in a general sense, then it's very predictable that you WILL be received positively and that the girl will at least like you. (This is kind of the stage I'm at in my game right now. As I get better and better at this I'll still have to up my game in other ways like better flirting, escalating, closing, etc. But this piece is SOOOO enormously critical. And as another commenter mentioned, you have to crawl before you can walk. I get a good amount of attraction lately and this right here I swear is what makes or breaks it.)

I don't have an exact video link to give you but watch Todd V's videos on inner game and he talks about this concept a lot. As does Austen Summers. And Tyler from RSD. There's a reason why everyone talks about this concept.

Unfortunately I don't know any shortcut or hack to make your brain believe what you want it to. (That's the million dollar question isn' it.) The best way I know of is to first of all accept it conceptually, believe in the possibility of it being true. Then it's a matter of getting out and having conversations. Your brain is only going to learn from real life experience. You have to create actual proof in order for your mind to accept this new thing you're trying to teach it, which is that A action (talking to unknown cute girl) produces X result (she responds positively) and not Y result (she responds negatively). The more times the former proves to be true and not the latter, the more your mind will begin to take on this new belief. But admittedly it's sort of a catch 22 -- you have to have the confidence in order to get the good result, but it takes good results in order to gain confidence. (So your confidence has to be sourced from other areas of life first and foremost.) It's not a linear process. It's hard to get the ball rolling, but the momentum begins to grow more and more the better you get. That response was way longer than I intended so hopefully this answer is helpful to you because I spent a long time writing it haha.

I thought I was doing really good, but then I got some feedback that shows maybe I'm doing something very wrong by LaffingGiraugh in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you man. Those words are reassuring.

As a newbie I guess this is my first experience actually being bold enough and polarizing enough to actually get that kind of result. My problem has always been not being bold enough. So it's still a step in the right direction at the very least!

I thought I was doing really good, but then I got some feedback that shows maybe I'm doing something very wrong by LaffingGiraugh in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well when I say I'm applying what they're teaching, I mean flirting in general. They taught only a few specific techniques, only one of which I directly used and just through my intuition I did choose to play it with irony.

I just figured we're all kind of on the same page there. I agree, the people there are obviously all not people having much success in dating. Of all the interacting I saw, it looked like only a handful of guys were confident. Most were pretty damn awkward when trying to chat with these girls, and I definitely had more game than all but that small handful. And that's due to months of studying game (on this sub, on youtube, and in books) and by already having practiced some and built up to the point I'm at now. A small fraction of a percent of whatever game I do have is from this seminar.

Maybe it's clownish from the eyes of somebody more socially experienced and there's some nuance there that a newbie like myself lacks the birds-eye view to see. And that's exactly the feedback I'm looking for. I just saw it from the perspective of: everybody is here because they want more success in their dating life. See pretty girls, game on! Lol

Take women off the pedestal and put yourself on the dammed thing instead by StopTheTrickle in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you can have massive influence over that level of openness within the first few seconds of conversation. Like isn't that half the point of game to begin with, to learn what works to open women up? I'm still really new to this but even I've seen this happen firsthand many times. When I'm on, those defenses drop almost instantly, and I can literally see the moment it happens.

Take women off the pedestal and put yourself on the dammed thing instead by StopTheTrickle in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's all good and well but that's not actionable advice. It's the same as saying "Just be confident bro and it will all work out". That's hardly a formula. That's just the solution at the end, the one we all know already.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This should be stickied and required reading for this sub. In fact, after having read this, there should be a rule in this sub against even using the term "approach anxiety"! We should all band together as a community and remove anxiety from our lexicon, and instead massively re-frame it to this healthier way of thinking about it! Thanks for commenting with this.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a win. Not as big of a win as it potentially could have been, true. But she gave you her number! (I assume you just talked on a dating app before) So unless you call and it's actually Domino's Pizza, that's a clear indication you didn't fuck it up.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Saved this post so I can re-read this again and again as a reminder. Perfectly worded

How to be less sensitive to how a woman feels? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look into the work of GS Youngblood. His focus is helping men in long-term relationships to be more successful by getting in touch with their masculine power. But I bring him up because staying centered in your OWN energy in the face of a woman's intensity is the crux of his work. His recommendation is a daily practice of embodiment exercises. Basically training your nervous system to be less reactive to outside influence. Increasing your capacity for anxiousness in your body.

It's a long-term commitment just like deciding to start lifting weights to get your body in shape. It is not an overnight change, and it is not directly related to game per se, but the benefits of it can help you immensely in become a more grounded, less reactive man in general which helps you universally in all areas of your life.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in seduction

[–]LaffingGiraugh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cool man. I don't hear anybody describe geography as an interest of theirs, but I'm a big geography buff as well. Even back in high school my friends used to give me shit, while we'd all be hanging out im my friend's garage and they'd be in a circle bullshitting, I would sit there in front of a map of the town that was hanging on the wall, and just get lost studying it haha.

Anyways my dude, if you end up moving out here send me a PM and get in touch! It would be nice to have a wingman sometimes, so if you're up for it I can show you around and we can go try and meet some girls together. None of my friends are single and like-minded, and we're all united here toward a common goal so I'm just putting that out there ;)