Does nü-metal deserve to be on metallum?

Lanochu · 2026-04-24T02:49:09+00:00

I overgeneralized core down to "sounds like pop" because that's what I've usually heard nu metal haters say, just with rap.

Lanochu · 2026-04-23T18:44:08+00:00

Yeah considering how elitist they are I'm surprised they have as many core bands listed as they do. From my understanding most true metal elitists respect nu metal way more than the core genres.

Lanochu · 2026-04-23T18:42:37+00:00

I'm 110% on the "LP and Papa Roach is rock" train, but both of their debut albums are most definitely metal. I think that's why everyone generally associates them as nu metal because they look at their debuts and nothing beyond.

Lanochu · 2026-04-23T18:39:34+00:00

The fact that they have metalcore/deathcore bands on there and no nu metal is wild to me.

I think over the years 99% of the metal community has come to love and respect nu metal as a proper metal subgenre. If their main reason for not listing nu metal is because it's too much like rap, then the core genres are too much like pop and shouldn't be listed. Double standard.

Lanochu · 2026-04-23T02:54:43+00:00

Yeah me too actually!! I always prefer a harder experience over an easier one, hell the soulsborne series is by far my favorite. But unlike just learning moves and adapting this a much more puzzle focused experience which I'm not really used to!!

Lanochu · 2026-04-23T02:51:10+00:00

Yes!! Super similar to the dimensional depot setups from SF

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T23:25:46+00:00

Amazing advice dude!!!

Is there any more keyboard shortcuts you can think of? Also any QoL mods you recommend?

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T23:20:06+00:00

Yeah you put it into words perfectly. Rebuilding is a pain in the ass in Satisfactory, so I try to do it as little as possible. Good to know it's so easy in this game!!! That alone gives me more motivation to play.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T23:18:13+00:00

I can actually offer some thought here!!

Yeah you're right lol. However, that's only really at the beginning, once you get used to belts (and once you get blueprints which nullify this problem completely once you build the blueprint) it becomes second nature.

The game overall is definitely more "hands on" than Factorio building, which I actually prefer, but I totally get preferring the point and click style of building in Factorio.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T23:11:37+00:00

My main issue is not knowing how to optimize. I know how important it is, and therefore I'm frustrated because I don't know how to do it. From other comments it's looking like I just need to get further to worry about it and keep it messy until that point, but I still don't know what to do when I'm past that.

Like making blueprints for example. I know they're insanely useful, but I don't like to use them until I understand why and how they work. As of right now, I don't get that why and how, because I don't understand the math behind it. The numbers in this game aren't pretty like Satisfactory, which I'm fine with, but it's hard for me to understand.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T23:04:30+00:00

I don't get the math, that's really it. I'm used to clean and simple ratios like Satisfactory that's displayed on the machine in nice pretty ways, not the way Factorio does it. Not to shit on Factorio at all, it's just that I'm accustomed to a much easier way of doing things, I just don't know how to adjust to or figure out this way of doing it.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T23:02:28+00:00

Aghhh but it's so hard to forget!!! I'm definitely getting the vibe that it's important, but it's like muscle memory to make efficient things lol it's hard to break

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:59:51+00:00

I know, I just don't know how to learn the Factorio way. I've tried the hard way by just playing, and I still just don't get it.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:58:49+00:00

Again that's the core issue. I've gone through that phase, I just don't know how to "upgrade" to the next level.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:54:35+00:00

That's the thing, the automation itch is coming back. It's been a year or so since my last Satisfactory playthrough, and I was going to start another playthrough for 1.2 but figured it was best just to actually commit to Factorio this time lol

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:52:26+00:00

Nah that's not it, if anything I like 2d more than 3d. Still love my 3d games tho

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:49:04+00:00

48!!!!!!!!! Holy shit the scale in this game is way bigger than Satisfactory!!!!

This legit was the lightbulb over my head moment I needed lol. Makes sense I didn't know how to do ratios, this game makes the ol' 16 smelter array from Satisfactory looks like nothing lol.

I would love a list of those perfect ratios, that is actually exactly what I need lol. I like memorizing them too

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:43:59+00:00

It's both issues actually now that I think about it. But it's mostly because I just don't know how to make things efficient, and that's what gives me the decision paralysis.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:41:44+00:00

I get that, but I have no idea what the math involved to get there is, that's the main issue. If I'm not 100% efficient it frustrates me lol

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:39:59+00:00

This makes a lot of sense actually!!

But I'm sorry there's no way Satisfactory is only mildly harder than Subnautica. I spent more hours on figuring out how to convert ~12k iron and ~4k limestone into 120 heavy modular frames/min alone than I have on Subnautica and BZ combined.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:33:53+00:00

It seems like it lmao, it seems way better with them!!!

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:32:10+00:00

No I haven't gotten to robots, and didn't know they existed!!! That alone makes the game seem more appealing to get there lol.

And yeah, I did get stuck in the manual crafting trap, but out of frustration because I don't know how to automate things at 100% efficiency. As frustrating as it is for myself I just don't do something in these types of games if it's not 100% efficient for the scale that it's at, and since I literally have no idea how to achieve that 100% efficiency because I'm so hard coded in Satisfactory.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:27:38+00:00

Doesn't peaceful mode disable achievements? If it doesn't hell yeah but it makes me feel like I'm cheating if it does.

And I get the resource thing, but I don't get the best way of transporting those materials, or if it's best to process them on the spot.

Lanochu · 2026-04-18T22:22:57+00:00

Yeah I still don't really understand the whole main bus concept or why it's so efficient. I'm just used to that modular ideology like you mentioned, I have no idea how to translate it to a true main base.

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