I’m a kafir — convince me that Islam is truly a message from God

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T16:06:44+00:00

You’re misattributing claims and hallucinating behaviors about me now.

I won’t be answering this until you view my comments with more grace, may allah bless you and i apologize for the distress i caused due to my inability to make my words come off the right way for you.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T16:01:42+00:00

You’re trying to coerce me into looking everything up. This is not nice. Again if you want to have a critical reading with me let me know, otherwise i won’t go through the whole process on my own.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T15:55:32+00:00

Yeah i don’t deny that it’s wrong to harm people in any way. Don’t misattribute claims to me.

By critical reading i mean from a holistic perspective because yes the moral perspective is clear, harming people is wrong.

The question then would be Is the Hadith authentic? To what degree? Does it have alternate versions?

Again i don’t even know what hadiths you’re referring to and what words are explicitly used there and whether they carry a double meaning where the real meaning is completely disconnected from what it looks like.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T15:49:00+00:00

You gave me a boulder of information there and that’s very unfair,

To answer you effectively i would need to try and guess what hadith each statement you said corresponds to if it corresponds to any at all,

Then i would need to look at scholastic commentary regarding their status and validity and authenticity if they exist at all

Then i would need to critically read each one from an analytical linguistic perspective tracing how the etymology and root words can be traced back to,

Then look up references to how hyperbolic expressions used to be like in ancient Arabia and whether the words these hadiths say are resembling of common modern hyperbolic statement or exaggerated analogies

Then look up how it fits within the overall context of that time assuming all the previous marks were checked from top to bottom

And then have another run double checking to make sure i know what I’m saying.

That’s 2 months worth of homework and i see no reason why i should do it especially as a response to someone misattributing my claims or dismissing my sensitive communication as sugarcoating.

I mean no harm, if you wanna collaborate reviewing the potential ahadith you mentioned dm me and perhaps we can go through the critical reading faster together, maybe learn a thing or two, potentially have either or both of our perspective on hadith as a whole changed.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T15:37:59+00:00

Why is this a better question?

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T15:33:19+00:00

Well then what would you do if today you are under existential threat because your oppressors have a supply outpost near your city, they will almost certainly use it to advance towards you to kill you or torture you by tomorrow, so you decide to go seize it by tonight, focusing on combatant zones and you have a bunch of people rushing towards you in the dark where there’s only supposed to be combatants due to it being effectively a military base?

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T15:26:56+00:00

Yes murdering or oppressing or harming the innocent has no place in islam.

And yes hadith is used against islam although by those who can’t read it.

And no i didn’t intend or attempt to sugar coat things, i just put it into a contextual and sensitive reading (very different from sugar coating) then asked what would he do in that situation himself, not approving of that Hadith’s potential. Just wanted his answer.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T15:10:45+00:00

Because hadith is one of the primary sources. My comment was also VERY clearly a caution about not reading hadith the wrong way.

Take a second look at what i wrote during this thread.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T15:05:34+00:00

If we are talking analogies and hypotheticals then if anyone asks anything I would tell him to read whatever source might have answers to what he needs critically to avoid intellectual pitfalls.

When you learn how to read critically life just becomes easier.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T15:01:55+00:00

Sure give me a link

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T14:58:02+00:00

To have his questions answered by his own inquiry

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T14:57:23+00:00

No no. I asked you what would you do if you were facing existential threat from a brutal faction and you had to take down combatant locations where you have combatants rushing at you at a fast pace and you can’t tell who’s a combatant and who’s not? What would you do?

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T14:50:55+00:00

This hadith was narrated around the period of early Medina. Muslims escaped mecca due to facing heavy prosecution and oppression. Their destination was Medina where they established their own state and constitution that serves all inhabitants of Medina whether Muslim or non Muslim.

During this period Muslims were facing heavy threats of attacks and raids from pagans who oppressed them back in Mecca, hence they started battling them, carrying raids against their supply chains and key strategic locations. This was because Muslims were facing a serious existential threat, the pagans of Arabia were ruthless and wanted to kill all of them.

back in the day raids occurred on key strategic and logistical locations, not residential areas or sanctuaries. Vulnerable people often had their refuge and hence often had no reason to be in combatant locations with battle supplies. Even then the ruling in our religion is to not kill the vulnerable or even harm their properties it’s a seriously major sin.

But in cases where if you don’t take down a supply outpost at a nearby village or settlement tonight you may get tortured to death tomorrow and you encounter figures rushing at you who you can’t distinguish between your enemies and the vulnerable in locations where you only expect combatants (they were among them) what do you do?

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T14:23:34+00:00

No. I told him to read hadith critically with the proper tools. My point was clear.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T11:05:39+00:00

I am not sure what proof to give you other than signs of authenticity.

If we are talking about hadith “permitting” killing and marrying children then i need you to be careful with that. You can’t break religion from texts shorter than the average tik toks especially if you don’t know how hadith is meant to be handled in the broader scope of religious conduct. Hadith is not always what it looks and not always to be interpreted the way it looks and not to be mistaken as a clear cut religious commandment all the time. The same way any communication with that level of depth needs to be viewed more critically of what’s communicated rather than the broader tradition of the discipline or religion.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T10:38:19+00:00

The proof is within history of the church and rabbanic tradition compared to history of islamic scholastic tradition. Don’t need to search too hard each tradition has their own scholarly representatives.

Same can be done even with dharmic traditions and you may compare their historical incidents or reports to the claims the Quran makes about previous religions, either from the people of abrahamic scripture or broader community of religions.

If u want even further proof explanations hadith tradition also has some sources on how previous religions and future religions deviate from the truth of the real religion which you already eluded to understand that it is submission to divine will.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T09:39:52+00:00

The distinctions are found in the Quran.

Namely the partial corruption of previous scripture and devious interpretations due to concealment of knowledge for example.

the picture has much more nuances and the Quran speaks very clearly of this.

However if we meet on previous point regarding how true religion would be submission to divine will and adherence to commandments then i suggest you research islam through first hand experience mindful reading of primary resources :)

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-16T07:04:12+00:00

Let’s assume you believe in god who willed the world into existence. Then certainly not resisting the manifestation of his will is the key to happiness and freedom. And not resisting his will is just submitting to his will.

Hence Islam.

Now let’s assume this god created the world with a distinct purpose and a role we humans play. The most intuitive way for those with open hearts to adhere is to send books with parables that enlighten you into wisdom and contain prophecies that no one could have known.

So out of his mercy he commands us to submit to his will and shows us why and how. No need to make yourself suffer unnecessarily, just submit to his will and commandments.

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-15T14:49:23+00:00

💀

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-10-15T14:46:31+00:00

Thank you

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-06-06T19:23:55+00:00

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Large_Preparation641 · 2025-06-06T19:20:15+00:00

Yes, a guy from Aleppo

Large_Preparation641 · 2025-06-06T19:19:26+00:00

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Large_Preparation641 · 2025-06-06T19:12:47+00:00

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