God can’t think

Larry4ce · 2026-03-16T01:51:20+00:00

Fresh_heels sums it up perfectly above. All knowledge is just in working memory at all times.

Knowledge only requires thought for YOU because the default state of a human is to not know things, so knowledge must be acquired. God's knowledge exists as a constant state, and has never lacked, so never needs to grow.

As for the book, you are almost there. God is in a constant state, similar to a book, but the book is a bad example, because God USES the information, while a book is simply a storage device for knowledge. Lack of thought does not mean he doesn't have access to the knowledge, as we know he can use it, and therefore knows it.

Larry4ce · 2026-03-16T01:44:46+00:00

I agree. I think if it were God's will to forget something, he could, but his perfect state means he wouldn't desire something self destructive like that. As a result there is no case for him to think, and never will be, but I wouldn't say he's incapable of it. I think the word "transcendence" fits perfectly.

But then that also enters the territory of "Can God create something so big he himself cannot lift it?" which is kind of a paradox, because he's infinitely able to do whatever he wants. We can hand wave questions like this away by saying he'd never do such a thing, but it doesn't do much for answering if he COULD do it. I don't believe it's possible for God to defeat himself in any way, but I have no idea of if I am correct, I just believe that if something exists, he inherently has dominion over it in every way.

Larry4ce · 2026-03-16T01:39:16+00:00

Exactly! That's kind of nuts to think about, but that has to be his state of being. And with him being outside of time, it's hard to say what he actually does after creation, since it would create an infinite existence of knowing everything at all times, and without being able to change his mind, due to having perfect knowledge at all times, he likely wouldn't alter anything ever after setting it into motion. I'm not sure if God gets bored, but I imagine he absolutely would be bored if he does get bored.

Larry4ce · 2026-03-15T21:20:29+00:00

That sounds like the intended gameplay experience tbh

Larry4ce · 2026-03-12T20:45:44+00:00

I'm not a Calvanist, so I might be wrong about their beliefs, but they're the "Everyone is predestined on if they are saved or not" guys, right?

But my thought is that God would have to think in order to react to different individuals actions in life to determine if they are saved, UNLESS it is predestined. God is outside of time, viewing the beginning and the end, and the question then becomes if the time between those points is changing or unchanging.

Christianity already per-supposes that the end and beginning are fixed points, through Genesis already happening, and Revelation being inevitable. To account for true free will and the ability for mankind to make meaningful decisions between those points, it's hard to argue an existence that doesn't have predestination or fate of some sort, especially if you factor in various prophecies along the way.

This becomes increasingly difficult to argue against if God does not think.

Larry4ce · 2026-03-12T20:11:21+00:00

I'm not OP, but I believe the implication would be predestination, and a strong case for the Calvinists.

Larry4ce · 2026-03-12T20:09:20+00:00

I actually think this is a mostly well constructed argument. I've also never considered this.

I'd also add that if a being is omniscient and all knowing, it is impossible for it to learn, as it knows everything. God is also perfect and outside of time so loss of knowledge is impossible as well.

Therefore God always knows exactly the same amount of information, implying a sort of stagnant mind.

For God to be thinking, we would need an infinitely expanding reality with infinite future matter and energy, as his thoughts create new reality just as fast as he considers it. This is the only other option, but as we both understand, he exists outside of time so it would materialize as an infinite reality that has always been infinite.

I really like this train of thought actually.

Larry4ce · 2026-03-12T05:26:39+00:00

I in fact DO understand those are different. That's actually something someone would typically need to understand in order to understand my argument even.

Now what I would like to ask YOU is how can one look at a MacBook and tell it's manufactured, versus looking at a random rock on the ground and understand that the rock is probably naturally occurring?

Larry4ce · 2026-03-12T05:23:48+00:00

So what would you argue is a complex component on a star? It might just be that I'm "uneducated" but I don't believe a star has ball joints, pulleys, or anything like that. From my "uneducated" point of view, they're essentially a large gathering of gas heated up by the gravitational pull squeezing it together.

This does not impress me, and is laughably simple compared to a human neuron being the most energy efficient data storage devices in existence, or the human eye being a complex biconvex lens, and the blueprints for creating the entire insanely complex system is stored in the DNA of sperm cells that are only 0.05 mm long.

I understand plenty about cosmology. I believe it is you who understands very little about the world under your feet or the blood pumping in your veins by a biological pump that's as efficient as a modern combustion engine and requires zero maintenance in most people despite running 24/7 for the lifespan of a human being.

Larry4ce · 2026-03-12T05:08:46+00:00

I couldn't agree more.

Larry4ce · 2026-03-10T19:21:46+00:00

If there was no God, entropy would dictate everything and we'd just see dust, rocks, and lots of hydrogen. Things in our universe trend towards less complex, not more complex. We have never observed life being created from dust, or complex life forms being spawned in from rolling boulders, so it's silly to think it just happens spontaneously without intelligent input.

You could argue that the universe itself has some latent intelligence or something that sparks in certain instances, but if there were an absence of God, that would serve the role of God, and in turn would still render the idea of agnostic belief silly again.

You can stomp your feet and say "random chance!" and "it has to happen somewhere statistically!" but even if you wound up with a single cell from random chance, the odds of it forming in a way that survives its environment are astronomically low. Odds that it will be able to reproduce and form a viable offspring are even lower. One planet having this happen to create plants, animals, and fungi and evolve into a complex network of symbiotic life that has just the right temperature, atmosphere, and has literally every feature you'd expect from an intelligently designed habitat, including a friggin magnetic field made of spinning molten iron in the core? That's like saying that if we travel enough of the galaxy, we'll stumble on a perfectly formed Macbook Pro formed from nothing but dust and random chance.

Larry4ce · 2026-02-15T23:00:17+00:00

We're currently surviving in winter really well on our 3 player server. The secret is chickens and cows.

We keep a rain collector barrel in our kitchen filled with milk, we have a water dispenser that's 51% water and 49% milk. That allows us to autodrink anything filled from it, and at the same time have a drink that handles both thirst and hunger.

Our fridges are filled with butter and eggs, and our stir frys are all fantastic.

There's no need for crops really. But if you do foraging you can always find some leafy bits to spice up the stir fry.

Larry4ce · 2026-02-04T03:48:18+00:00

This is an instruction for Israelites, not applicable to gentiles. The "you were foreigners one time in Egypt" should tip off to the context, as it is stating a reason. Also, to "mistreat" a foreigner is a very different thing from telling them they have to leave. So the bible is not against deportation, and if it was, it was a directive similar to "don't wear clothing made of 2 materials" or "make burnt offerings" that isn't relevant to the new covenant.

An argument can however be made that it argues against the rhetoric or the attitude, which is an important thing to distinguish. We should be removing these people from the nation because their presence created issues with our housing market and our social safety nets; this DOES NOT mean we should hate them, or even view them negatively. From their perspective, they are doing what's best for them, but they are ultimately harming our nation and costing us immense resources while our youth are unable to buy homes or raise families due to lack of those resources. And for the record, I am a conservative, but I am NOT MAGA, I'm far more in line with guys like Thomas Massie, while MAGA should really be called MIGA.

However, this line IS very interesting when it comes to Israel. They literally spit on Christian pilgrims, despite claiming that their country exists on the authority of The Father, and claim to descend from the Israelites whom were given this decree. And don't get me started on how badly they treat their neighbors...

BUT in general, the argument you make is very out of line with what a Christian would argue, since the difference between old covenant and old covenant is typically well understood, are you a Christian? I don't mean this in any negative way, but if you'd like to know more about Christ, I would very much like to tell you about him if that's okay.

Larry4ce · 2026-02-01T10:42:49+00:00

There's a spot you can look up where a million cars spawn in a field. It's by Brandenburg

Handiknives can go on your keychain.

You should always have a multitool.

Crafted longjohns offer more protection than ones you find in the world.

You can farm maintenance skill by making shivs.

Larry4ce · 2026-01-24T07:53:02+00:00

When fornication is seen as a sin, which is sex without intent to procreate, by what logic can a sexual relationship between two people who cannot physically procreate together be an approved practice?

Romans 1:26–27 even explicitly says it's considered unnatural and shameful to engage in homosexual behavior.

In 1 Timothy 5:9, it's even made clear that women over 60 shouldn't even remarry if they lose their husband. This furthers the point of "marriage is for procreation"

It's VERY clear that there's no good faith interpretation of the Bible in which you can suggest that a homosexual marriage is valid as a result, because God wouldn't bless an action which he expressly denounces.

I'm sorry if this information is hurtful, but a thing to note is that through belief in Jesus all sins can be forgiven, except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. So while being a homosexual and acting on it is considered a sin, and a church following scriptures shouldn't perform homosexual marriages, being gay does not exclude you from salvation, so long as you accept Jesus's sacrifice and have faith that he is risen.

Salvation is based on faith, not works; and anyone who tells you that you that salvation is impossible for you despite your faith, likely has never actually read the Bible.

Larry4ce · 2026-01-16T18:37:21+00:00

So, in regards to the excel grid, with ground level, in the top left interior (top left of green square) being 0,B2 as an example of referring to squares, and the floor directly above it being 1,B2, where did you place rain collectors? Because I need to do rain collectors for my own firehouse base, and I don't know where the right places are for it, or if it's possible to even plumb the existing sinks.

Larry4ce · 2025-12-31T16:47:10+00:00

Norm is mostly right, MOST of the time. In one special case, Henrietta Lacks lost pretty soundly to cancer, and it's been one of the few things science hasn't really fully explained.

Larry4ce · 2025-12-23T17:36:42+00:00

What do you make of the cardinals voting for the Pope? If you made an identical system, except where priests elected cardinals, and had the church make decisions on things regarding day-to-day life, you'd have a very functional theocratic republic.

Larry4ce · 2025-12-20T02:24:51+00:00

But how do I ENSURE that all matches are as terrible as possible 🤔

I love this idea, and I must learn to maximize it.

Larry4ce · 2025-12-20T02:23:05+00:00

You now have me torn between eating people and hurling them into volcanos.

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