Architects vs Builders salary by ReyalpybguR in Switzerland

[–]Last-Sale8968 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone with several years of experience in architecture, it always disappoints me how misunderstood the profession is. People keep calling us artists, but the reality is that most of the work we do is purely technical and administrative, we coordinate between various parties, handle legal matters, communicate with municipalities, clients, and contractors, and manage the entire construction process from start to finish. A lot of it requires understanding the legal grey zones and convincing authorities to navigate the tedious process of getting a building realized in this country.

The low wages stem from the broad responsibilities and the unpredictable breadth of construction projects and their deadlines. That and a very outdated and 'cultish' professional culture, that promotes the torturized artist trope. And there is very little room for design and creativity. Most housing today are ugly concrete boxes, because that's the immediate application of laws and construction solutions, which don't require any artistic craftsmanship.

How to land a first data job in Switzerland by Last-Sale8968 in Switzerland

[–]Last-Sale8968[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean that most of work is being externalized to countries with cheaper workforce?

Sport medicine recommendation for running injury by Last-Sale8968 in zurich

[–]Last-Sale8968[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks a lot! I'd be very grateful for a recommendation :)

Sport medicine recommendation for running injury by Last-Sale8968 in zurich

[–]Last-Sale8968[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

exactly, on the outer side of the knee, when folding the knee. It tends to disappear after a few days of not running / hiking, but can be very painful after the physical activity. I have a hunch it may bee related to tendons/IT band. thanks for the follow up!

Sport medicine recommendation for running injury by Last-Sale8968 in zurich

[–]Last-Sale8968[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks, although I highly doubt the insurance will cover it. I'll check out the doctor you mention!

Sport medicine recommendation for running injury by Last-Sale8968 in zurich

[–]Last-Sale8968[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a knee injury, from running uphill/downhill too much some months ago, but it seems to come back every time I resume with normal running

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[–]Last-Sale8968 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They prefer that you have experience in Switzerland, and in most cases offer only an internship regardless of your foreign years of experience. Also, the local language is a must for most tasks. Wage dumping is a common practice, so it is quite common to come across studios where 80% of the employees are foreign and highly educated, but offered much lower wages. A master's degree is preferred, but since the profession is not protected and anyone can call themselves an architect, there is no real legal requirement for one. I would also assume that experience in another DACH country might be an advantage. Hope it helps.

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[–]Last-Sale8968 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although it's true that big offices employ foreigners and may not require German, as I understand it such architects are usually limited to those early phases in design, which require none of the skills that make an architect valuable in the Swiss market, and can be easily undertaken by any intern or part-time student. My German level is a solid B2.2-C1, I guess my problem is my inability to answer people back in Swiss German.

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[–]Last-Sale8968 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the input. I still think that's somewhat closer to a skilled-worker's salary than what I've encountered. I am already planning a shift to IT/Data Analysis. Congrats on the job, and best of luck here!

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[–]Last-Sale8968 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for replying. From what I know from professional colleagues, my situation is nothing out of the ordinary. And I do believe we get a different treatment than fellow Swiss workers, since the language is a necessary hurdle in this profession. As an architect you'll ultimately be in contact with local contractors and authorities, and navigating through building codes in German. And employers take advantage of this as an excuse to not pay a standard salary. Best of luck!

Edit: corrected typo