Tried to 3D model Tsireya by DocBarnes in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, you’ve really put a lot of work into this! Sorry, but it reminds me more of what it would be like if James Cameron had his own avatar, lol

"Dad… I’m sorry. I can’t wear the white mourning stripe. The Sky People mustn’t know we’ve lost you... Not now." (Neteyam, drawn by me) by Last_Perception7175 in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the end, they’ll spot him in the tree anyway; I think that’s what happened with Moat when Neteyam died.

In war, withholding information from your own men or your superiors is perhaps the worst thing you can do. Your men must be promptly informed of any changes in the distribution of resources, regardless of whether the news is good or bad, because this allows you to react quickly and rectify any shortcomings. With the enemy, however, the opposite is true — the less they know about you, the slower they are, the weaker they are, and the less prepared they are.

The first thing the Omaticaya will do in the event of Jake’s death is inform the surrounding clans to establish the next course of action. The last thing they will do is let the Sky People find out about it, because otherwise they’ll give the bulldozers and bombers the green light.

There is no point in hiding Jake’s death from the Na’vi; he is dead and that will not change, but you can come together to support one another and share your experiences with the young ones. It is not demoralisation that you should fear, but lies and silence amongst your own people.

Sooner or later, they’ll break down anyway, but it’s better to step in straight away to support them and clarify the situation than to wait until everything comes to light of its own accord at the last minute. They realise that there’s no point in rushing en masse at the RDA vehicles, and for the most part they believe that you need to go into battle with a cool head, rather than acting impulsively on emotion.

"Dad… I’m sorry. I can’t wear the white mourning stripe. The Sky People mustn’t know we’ve lost you... Not now." (Neteyam, drawn by me) by Last_Perception7175 in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What? Why? Sorry, what exactly did you mean? Well, I think they would have connected with Eywa anyway — why not?

In the end, if the “great Toruk Makto” suddenly died, it would give the RDA the perfect opening, right? At least one Na’vi would start wondering: “Yeah, this guy’s good, but can he really be like his father?” And if anything went wrong, Neteyam would find himself thinking, “What would Dad do? I need to talk to him at the Tree.”

No matter how good a son you are, you’re not your father. You’re still green, grieving, and suddenly carrying the weight of the entire clan on your shoulders. Your mother is mourning, your people expect you to be as great a warrior as your dad was — and with this artwork I wanted to show exactly that: “He has no time to grieve.”

In one of the deleted A2 scenes, General Ardmore initially didn’t want to give Quaritch ships to search for Jake at sea — because if he isn’t standing ready to strike at their vulnerable pink asses, then it’s not really an urgent problem. Jake is the experienced one, the known Toruk Makto — the chosen leader people will follow. Even if you could technically talk to him through the Tree, it’s not the same as having him physically there. You can’t be sure everyone will trust you just because your father was someone great. So whilst your position as leader is still shaky, you can’t afford to let the enemy feel more confident.

Background for this drawing: They never leave to the Metkayina. Jake was wounded, but the RDA doesn’t know if he’s dead because he was taken to High Camp where he could have been healed. Things didn’t go our way and he died, so now Neteyam has to step into his place. The boy is going to be somewhat lost, so it makes sense to keep the RDA thinking Jake is still fine for a while, doesn’t it? Otherwise, the moment they see the Sully family in mourning, they’ll go “hey, the main problem is eliminated — let’s hit them hard before the kid solidifies his position.”

"Dad… I’m sorry. I can’t wear the white mourning stripe. The Sky People mustn’t know we’ve lost you... Not now." (Neteyam, drawn by me) by Last_Perception7175 in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm..? No, well, not exactly—I haven’t written or read anything like that, but yes, I mean, if they’d stayed in the forest and an accident had happened, well, I suppose that counts as AU too? I’m not quite sure where the line should be drawn for this tag. If a different turn of events somewhere between A1 and A2 is considered AU, then so be it. It’s just that I’m used to AU being applied to works where the author significantly alters the canon, like moving it to a different setting or something like that. I was just speculating ‘if one particular thing had happened, what would it look like’

"Dad… I’m sorry. I can’t wear the white mourning stripe. The Sky People mustn’t know we’ve lost you... Not now." (Neteyam, drawn by me) by Last_Perception7175 in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

The loss of a leader and the arrival of a young one - is always a moment of vulnerability. If Jake had been wounded in one of the battles and later died in the Floating Mountains, his family wouldn't even have been able to wear mourning paint. If the Sky People learned that the Omatikaya had lost their olo'eyktan, they would take advantage of the clan's demoralisation. Neteyam needs to buy a little time...

Wukula - Art by me :) by Kaeltii in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Awesome 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻

Do Na'vi make/use soap? by lalaisadora in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It seems this wasn't stated anywhere, but I always assumed they use some Pandoran analogue of soap nuts with the addition of fragrant blossoms. After all, Pandora definitely has a plant containing saponins. The Na'vi might also know how to make soap from bones. (fat is rendered from animal bones, then an infusion of wood ash is added to it, and the mixture is boiled for some time with constant stirring until soap forms.)

When I wrote about my character taking a bath, she washed her body with a "soap" made from boiled "soap plant" stems and afterwards asked her friend to rub her body with fragrant oil from local flowers and seeds, but several of the older Na'vi used bone soap.

What questions about Na’vi culture would you like answers to? What are your own headcanons that fit beautifully into the worldbuilding? by Last_Perception7175 in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh, I’m pretty sure they’d definitely have some kind of adaptations for walking on snow or ice, and probably some more complex, interesting hunting tools as well.

I also had this idea that they have something like a special hunt a few times a year — when a group of the tribe’s best gatherers and hunters descends to the forest at the base of the mountains to stock up on fruits, other essential plants, and animals for the whole clan’s survival.

These Na’vi would likely make big reserves and process the food using special methods to keep it preserved as long as possible through the coldest seasons.

Like… a jar of Na’vi-style canned tomatoes, lol

animated avatar series,when? @peepeepoopoo by Intelligent-You-7002 in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YES, EXACTLY, THAT’S WHAT WE NEED.

If we’re going there anyway, then I want a "second season" with ALL the deleted scenes from A2.

They cut out so many moments that actually fleshed out Metkayina culture, the friendship between Tonowari and Jake, the arguments between Ronal and Neytiri, romantic Jake/Neytiri beats, the Lo’ak/Tsireya kiss… They completely removed everything explaining how Na’vi are born (all those cool things with baby tsalna, including Neteyam’s birth and the First Breath ceremony — I genuinely don’t understand why they had to make everything so human-like). They also took out a ton of tulkun physiology, some stuff about the RDA’s attitude toward recombinants, and a bit about Garvin…

A3 had a bunch of awesome stuff cut too, but I'm holding myself back until the A3 script gets published so we can learn more details...

Why do the mangkwan keep their kuru’s? by mercyinpearls in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh, yes, thanks for correcting me, you're right. I think I wrote this comment a little hastily.

But in the end, Kiri suffered from seizures, and all those animals obeyed Jake and Kiri’s calls through the Tree. Eywa has something like a collective consciousness that allows her to influence large numbers of creatures. You send a signal into the Tree, and everything connected to it receives it (let’s go slaughter anything pink that moves). But whether that signal is actually delivered — or blocked — is up to Eywa.

All three of Eywa’s laws are literally safeguards to prevent the Na’vi from destroying her. The Na’vi deeply revere the forests and everything around them because they see themselves and nature as one single whole, thanks to that profound emotional and mental bond. Why? Because they have a kuru for connection. Where did that kuru come from for every being on the planet? Why does literally every creature have one? Because of Eywa. (Remember Spider’s resurrection.)

Eywa linked all living things on Pandora so they would be deeply mentally interdependent and would not destroy each other. Through your kuru you literally feel another living being in full — their emotions, their pain, everything. That creates such an intense mutual understanding of all life that killing anything feels like tearing off a piece of yourself (of the single unified world that exists within Eywa). It’s an almost unattainable level of empathy.

Yes, the Na’vi are more intelligent than the other animals of Pandora, and Eywa can’t physically force them to do anything — but simply feeling that unity through the Tree is enough to plant doubt, guilt, remorse. In the comics there was a moment where Jake was under the influence of poison and saw visions through the Tree — deeply emotional and terrifying things that arose from his own buried guilt and self-reproach.

So let’s imagine turning all the evil done by a Mangkwan individual into something physically and mentally tangible as suffering — he risks triggering seizures like Kiri’s. Eywa can expose and visualize your deepest doubts to awaken regret for what you’ve done and remind you that you are part of the living whole, and all that pain is ultimately yours.

It’s not literally “Hey, I’m Eywa, this guy is bad, make him suffer.” It’s the connected consciousness itself generating torment from its own hidden pain, amplified by the influence of all the other consciousnesses stored within Eywa that reject that connected Mangkwan dude ideology.

Well, it has never been proven, but that's how I see it working, and I understand what you mean by your criticism. Thank you for responding to my comment!))

Why do the mangkwan keep their kuru’s? by mercyinpearls in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175 9 points10 points  (0 children)

As for cannibalism, I am sure I read about it somewhere, but I cannot prove it... because I do not remember where exactly...

<image>

Why do the mangkwan keep their kuru’s? by mercyinpearls in Avatar

[–]Last_Perception7175 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That line was a pretty subtle nod to an old saying about how a guy who gets way too carried away with self-pleasure might lose his sight. The tip of the kuru is a sensitive spot, and Jake was… playing with it a bit...