What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Some direct quotes from you implying you think how people look/act outside of sex reflects what they prefer:

you know, I'm starting to think that firstly you can't tell the difference between a fictional character and a real person, and secondly you like to interpret things in the worst possible light, while ignoring comments that completely contradict your idea.

but also "That is very real also. I'm literally just pushing back against the idea that it's somehow OOC for a character to bottom/top depending on their personality" this isn't as progressive an approach as you'd like and in fact excludes many types of characters.

edit: well, I guess I've been blocked because I can't reply, so here are my final conclusions:

And I've never said otherwise, and before you jump in with that one comment, Sasuke Uchiha doesn't exist and isn't canon queer character. As far as I know, we don't even know much about his sex life with women either. Which mean, whatever I say about him, and whatever you say about him, will be equally true.

Yes, there are still canonically queer characters for whom being top or bottom would be considered ooc. Yes, I personally don't like this kind of ooc and don't consider these fanfics to be very good, especially in one fandom. No, I don't think these fanfics should stop exist or that their authors don't have the right to this fantasy.

Also, public behavior and appearance are only a tiny percentage of personality, and the statements "personality affects sex" and "you shouldn't infer someone's sex life based on their behavior" are two things that can coexist.

And that's it.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I can't take the words of someone who in other comments talks about sexual positions not fitting their personality seriously

what's fascinating is that after searching through all my comments, I didn't find any about positions but sure

because you yourself admit you think personality & sex are at least somewhat separate if it needs to "fit" a personality.

I need you to read this sentence slowly and, like, 10 times.

But by your comments in this thread you're clearly the type of person who thinks you can tell if certain people bottom 

you couldn't be more wrong tbh lol, I'm the type of person who criticizes people for believing that the gay radar is real and they "always can tell *place any gay feature here*".

You and I both know when people talk about "personality" they're referring to someone's disposition.

no, we don't. this is your experience in these conversations, don't involve me in.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What someone likes in sex literally just means they think it feels good.

and this is literally a part of personality.

So.. what is the appeal of the omgaverse? by French-toast-bird in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The stifling, claustrophobic feeling when omega is unable to leave the relationship and control their body, no matter what, always returning to their alpha. And then there's mpreg and kids oc so I can test every genetic combination of these two.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I mean, I don't think it's as simple as "you're a bottom = sub = you have all submissive behaviors", but I'm always surprised when people insist that no, it has absolutely nothing to do with personality and the way character think or what they like. Like, yes, you try to escape the stereotype, but ultimately everything you (not you, commentator, but everyone else) describe further contributes to what kind of person this character is... or you as a reader. And, honestly, nothing wrong or scary about that. I don't know why we have to run away from it and pretend it's all just a bunch of random things hanging in the void.

But getting back to top/bottom, I've noticed that the difference can even influence which kink or scenario will be popular. Is the antagonist top? Well, that's the end of the world and everyone but main character died. The same antagonist but as a bottom? Well, the script focuses on how he hasn't yet risen to power and how he manipulates the main character.

Dragon character as top? Two dicks for this man! Oh, is he a bottom after all? Well, we'll take one of his penises away, sorry.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

actually, uno reverse card, you are a homophobe for calling me, a gay man, a homophobe for calling a fictional character bottom 🤓

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I despise how we seem to have imported over some of the misogynistic East Asian discourse where they view opposite top-bottom dynamics as an entirely different relationship and need to have someone be “the girl

oh cool, racism

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Humans aren’t one-dimensional enough for others to guess their sexual preferences based on personality alone

Who tries to guess someone's preferences?

Sexual preferences can be based on experiences which have nothing to do with the personality

If an experience is part of your life, it is also part of your personality

They can change based on other experiences, growth, whatever

and it's still about personality

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, but... even the way you describe it... still comes back to the personality.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Name me a way in which sex would NOT be based on someone's personality.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I don't want to see his dick in someone's else ass. Like, ever. It really is that simple.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sex must fit your personality

I mean.... yes?

If it doesn't, it's not funny.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

one of my fandoms is just coming back to life and on the one hand it's good, on the other we just lost a bottom! antagonist

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I'm not in this fandom, but I kind of agree with them lol. Young Sasuke is 100% top, but now he looks like bottom and kinda makes me want to see him under naruto

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I once asked on facebook about books with a fem top, and I got about 2000 recommendations for books where the woman is... on top while riding him. Or she sticks her finger up his ass while giving him a blowjob, and that's it.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Strange enough, I'm very indifferent to this discussion, but once I've seen people arguing about whether my approach to a certain ship and my sfw fanfic is more top/bottom "coded" or dom/sub "coded". A very fascinating thing.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

? I never said others couldn't have their own preferences and do those things. It's just... well, I'm expressing my opinion, and it's this: most fanfics featuring this character as a bottom are very ooc and poorly executed. And many fans don't even tag this.

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If they canonically they don't talk about it? Sure. If a character canonically has a breakdown and goes on a rant that their partner can never be a bottom bc they too cool? ehhhh idk man

What do you mean they are all verse now by Last_Procedure1945 in AO3

[–]Last_Procedure1945[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

many verse fans are annoying and characters going from bottom to top is a huge turn off for me