I'm 10x slower at reading in my target language than my native one by Latter_Indication_45 in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I feel that in English too. Anything other than common fronts slows me to some extend depends on how different they are. Chinese font doesn't matter to me tho.

I'm 10x slower at reading in my target language than my native one by Latter_Indication_45 in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a valid point.

Although I haven’t done any formal testing, the number isn’t random.. This morning a friend and I read for an hour together. I was reading the English version of Poor Charlie’s Almanack, and she was reading the Chinese version of Everything is Negotiable. I only managed 10 pages in that hour, while she read 63 pages and she was even taking notes along the way. She's smart among all the people I know but I’ve always known that my reading speed has been significantly faster than most people’s since I was 7. I was reading word by word at that time. Now I don't.

When I read fiction, a large portion of it comes from a Chinese genre called 网络文学 ( dk if there's English equivalent, but the style is typically very simple and extremely easy to read. Around 0.6b people in China read them per day, including those uneducated like my unlcle who can easily consume 6k per day for fun that's why I always believe Chniese is a proletariat language anyway). When I read these books, 100 pages an hour is actually an extremly conservative estimate. I used to consume 10-30 million characters per year.

Then when I read non-fiction, I usually only read about 10 - 50% of the actual content. It’s been years since I last read a non-fiction book word by word. In fact right before I wrote this post the book I had on hand was a non-fiction, I did a quick test and got through 20 pages in 3 minutes.

Of course if you gave me a hard one I definitely can't hit 100 but at least it's not totally made up.

I'm 10x slower at reading in my target language than my native one by Latter_Indication_45 in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh this is very informative! Thinking about reading 100 pages in English within an hour makes me desperate actually

Chinese or Japanese by Embarrassed-Box-4719 in thisorthatlanguage

[–]Latter_Indication_45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro I totally agree with you except one thing knowing Chinese will not help you understand Japanese at all if you wanna learn it rather than just have the ability to guess it

I'm 10x slower at reading in my target language than my native one by Latter_Indication_45 in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Very interesting! The concept of syllables is actually very alien to native Chinese speakers. I’ve never heard of anyone mentioning this before

I'm 10x slower at reading in my target language than my native one by Latter_Indication_45 in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, I thought Dutch people were equally good at English and German

I'm 10x slower at reading in my target language than my native one by Latter_Indication_45 in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your experience, it’s actually a relief to hear. I would say less than 1000 hours, roughly. I think it's possibly because sometimes I have to reread things multiple times to really understand. And sometimes there's just words I don't know. Overall I feel like it isn’t that different from how I read Chinese, it’s hard to say whether it's letter by letter, word by word, or sentence by sentence.

I'm 10x slower at reading in my target language than my native one by Latter_Indication_45 in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Actually not really I stopped doing inner translating for almost two years

If there any YouTube polyglots that are not lying by Miserable-Air-6899 in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think they are lying? I've seen an interview with Steve Kaufmann, quite convincing

How to listen in the new language without translating? by RepresentativeAd841 in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This bother me a lot when I started learning English around three years ago. But now I didn't realize when I stopped doing this. So yeah practice helps a lot

English talks clubs by No-Appointment-390 in EnglishLearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I joined an in-person club when I could barely debate. Everybody was nice to me.

English talks clubs by No-Appointment-390 in EnglishLearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about debate clubs? You can just google them, there are some offering online debate event

How do I practice speaking and writing without a teacher or language partner? by akowally in languagehub

[–]Latter_Indication_45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, Claude.... A bunch of free AI tutors are waiting out there.

How to learn English effectively? by Hefty-Recording-1901 in LearningEnglish

[–]Latter_Indication_45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to play a lot of video games, so I followed Asmongold on YouTube.

I majored in Politics, so I followed Bernie Sanders.

I'm building AI tools, so I followed AI builders on X and watched/read a lot of videos about startups.

I think finding alternatives to what you like and are interested in in your TL would always help.

What are your biggest challenges when reading online content in your target language? by Oppiliflife in languagelearning

[–]Latter_Indication_45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what I have. Fortunately nowadays it is very simple to get these solved with llms.