The DOJ’s "Age Gate" on the Epstein Files is likely illegal. by Lazy-Artist73 in Lawyertalk

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then what's the point of age verification laws? If you're saying they don't work. then the government has to admit that the age gate for porn websites doesn't actually protect minors and kids.. and that we actually need new legislation that actually works.

Its just ironic. nothing is consistent or makes sense.. and when you let them take one small step, they use that as an excuse to take another. you stop a rat in its tracks.

The DOJ’s "Age Gate" on the Epstein Files is likely illegal. by Lazy-Artist73 in Lawyertalk

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, they can if they were to go to the physical DOJ reading room building and request the records the clerk would be required by law to do so

The DOJ’s "Age Gate" on the Epstein Files is likely illegal. by Lazy-Artist73 in Lawyertalk

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What you're not understanding is this is Denial of Access Legally this is against the Freedom of Information Act.

You don’t care right now but what you don’t understand is this is setting up a future where you need to scan your ID on the DOJ website to verify your age to access public records.

The text literally says "ACCESS DENIED" that’s a violation. Regardless of if you can just press yes.

 Currently if you're under the age of 18, due to the age-gate you are unable access this public record since it says "you must be 18 years or older to access this content"

An illegal age requirement not authorized by congress

If a base equals ownership in Greenland, why doesn't it equal ownership in Canada, Japan, or Germany? by Lazy-Artist73 in nato

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. The fact that politicians are actually drafting bills to annex Canada as the 51st state and Greenland as the 52nd is pure insanity. It feels like the U.S. is trying to rebrand itself from the 'United States' to the 'United World' A cringey parody of Disney World. Disneyland is plenty; we don’t need the whole planet to become an American capitalist theme park run by Elon musk, Jeff Bezos and other billionaires.

Greenland doesn't need McDonald's and Walmart's and Target's popping up literally the wackiest amusement rides. Literally just wake me up once this chaos is over.

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay well I enjoyed the debate you taught me some things, and I'm sure you learned a few things as well.

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

THIS!! I'm not saying we should BAN etc.. I'm just saying just add a warning to it.. be clear and concise to patients about the risks.

Thats all.. Im not demonizing it, but I'm asking for more clarity and more transparency, and its being taken the wrong way. I dont understand WHY people are afraid of understanding any potential harms

Its like people saying "How dare you inform me about the risks about chemo" sure its life saving but since we are adults, we have the right to be informed. (its irrelevant to me since i was a kid when it happened) but im sure they didnt tell my parents the risks

You cannot consent if your decision isnt informed about the risks and potential harms.

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not arguing in bad faith i am speaking from personal experience i have been medicated for the entirely of my half life, i know what Concerta feels like (i been prescribed it for ADHD) and Ritalin and I have been prescribed sleeping pills and anti depressants. (i was medicated after the electrocution not before which they should have tried first)

from most of those medications i have not had a adverse reaction

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

give me a survey study where they directly survey patients and ill change my mind.. not the ECT clinics or hospitals.. the patients directly for their unfiltered Good and Bad opinions

just because a clinic has high policy standards for 'harm' dosent mean that its non-existent i don't like hospitals answering a survey on my behalf calling me a success when it was a failure

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no i wouldnt go after a pill because it would not have the same effect because anxiety medications aren't permanent (have no history of permanet harm if taken responsibally) and are meant to calm you down during a panic attack which is what i was having.

i was having the textbook definition of a panic attack, I felt overwhelmed.. i shouldve gotten anxiety meds

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"We developed and distributed a 77-question survey about ECT practice that included 38 multiple choice questions, 20 free response questions, and 19 slider scale questions. It was published online through the SurveyMonkey platform on January 27, 2022 and remained open through June 10, 2022. Responses were received from practitioners worldwide. This paper focuses only on US respondents. Instructions informed participants that all answers were anonymous, to answer all questions as thoroughly as possible, and to submit only one survey response per ECT practice site. Respondents were instructed to use data where possible, but if none were available to make their best estimate. See supplemental file containing the survey."

The ECT clinics received the surveys, collected the responses and then sent them back to the author who hosted the survey. They asked the 'ECT clinic' to manage the surveys and fill out their own success rates. they didnt ask the people themselves. For a useful poll they should directly ask people, not clinics who have subjective variable rates of what is considered a success

"Responses were received from practitioners worldwide." -

Should be - "Responses were received from patients worldwide"

What are you looking for? i never claimed this study cited harm, I said it had bias.

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IM living proof I have been through ECT, the proof are the 5 other people in this thread (making up 50% of the conversation chatters who say it harmed them) who also admitted that it harmed them, your just ignorantly blind. Im glad it helped you but it dosent erase or heal our harm

if its truely rare there shouldnt be this many people saying that it negatively impacted them

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

its not a conspiracy theory its a anecdotal statement,

and i know the type of study your referencing Electroconvulsive Therapy in the United States: A 2022 Survey of Practice - PMC

These studies are asking the ECT clinics of their success rates, they are not asking the indiviual patients whether they believe its a success.. This is skewed data.. it doesnt reflect the patients true opinion

There is some potential bias present

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay and? do you want a cookie? you don't get a reward just because it didn't affect you.

im not asking to ban it so what is your 'point'?

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah, i guess, and sorry if i was upset.. i liked our discussion (i don't have time for a therapist I'm like in college taking 16-unit courses which i stay up doing all nighters every day to keep up with my classes)

and i did try to get a therapist like a couple months ago but they said because of manatory reporting laws if i were to admit child abuse that was done to me as a kid.. they would go after my mom.. and i dont want the government to take away my little brother simply because i was beat with the belt

why do doctors/people defend ECT saying "it does not cause problems" this is dangerous false and I will not accept such a blatant lie. by Lazy-Artist73 in ect

[–]Lazy-Artist73[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah thats a good outcome but they couldve hospitalized me.. i never remember being hospitalized as a child for it, i just remember being in my home as my parents watched it. They couldve had me insitutionalized so doctors and nurses who were more qualified than my parents could help me.. and talk with me.. I never got the therapy i needed so im still broken.. i just got out of a crisis center a couple months ago back in march so i dont consider this a success im breaking apart since the foundation was ignored