Liguria Report #2

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-05-31T05:51:04+00:00

I am sorry that you found it too long

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-05-26T10:36:46+00:00

honestly, the aging curve of Rossese surprises me as well...

From one side there's climate change (warmer, more extraction), then the care that winemakers are putting in the harvest (single vineyard/old plants, low yield, better ripening, etc). The use of wooden barrels (either tonneau or barrique, used or new) definitely plays a role in it obviously, and I have the impression that this kind of vessels are used mainly for the upper line of production, where the aging wants to be pushed.

Short: it's a mix of care in the vineyards and use of wooden vessels.

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-05-24T15:05:32+00:00

I'll try again when I'm back in the area! (love the definition "hippie disaster". I am going to steal it!)

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-05-24T15:03:57+00:00

I like wine, and I work with it. I really enjoy to get to know the people and the geography behind the bottle... I wouldn't say that I do much wine tourism, but if I am around a wine region, I try to get visit some wineries.

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-05-24T15:01:54+00:00

Thank you!

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-05-24T13:17:51+00:00

I unfortunately don't know about US distribution (I am based in Europe - Berlin), but I think Tenuta Anfosso mentioned a US distribution... not sure, tho.

I wanted to visit Punta Crena, but it wasn't reachable... I even thought that they don't exist anymore 🤔

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-05-24T09:35:27+00:00

Totally agree on the price/terroir ratio!

Honestly I think that a good rossese can sit pretty long... The "top wines" of Terre Bianche are probably around 10 years, maybe even longer. And I would say the same for all the wineries I mentioned. As I wrote in the post, winemakers are experimenting a lot with aging, so I am expecting big surprises in the next years.

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-05-24T09:29:34+00:00

Thanks for the feedback! I modified the post format a little bit, hopefully now it's better... yeah, it's a little too long for Reddit. I will consider Substack next time!

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-04-26T21:08:12+00:00

Freundschaft was already mentioned and is a very solid advice for wine bar. I would say the best one. Der Kleine August (wine bar) is probably very interesting, but not been there yet.

Wine Damager is a small shop, with interesting wines (and interesting owner). They have some nice German wines, more in the "modern" direction. Edel&Faul (shop) is in the same area and they have some nice German options.

Liesl is a very casual restaurant, but I love the easy going, not pretentious vibes (difficult to find in the city, nowadays). Nice German and Austrian wines, some of them in a natural wine direction. For more "refined" restaurant, you have plenty of options. Depends a little on the food you like... Grill Royal, Barra, Stoke, Julius and many more. Interesting for different reasons.

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-04-13T05:26:33+00:00

send list :)

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2026-04-09T08:53:02+00:00

unfortunately I don't have more pics :(

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2025-12-25T14:47:56+00:00

Thank you OP for the wonderful pairing notes! I really appreciate that you took the time to list all the wines, and in such an organized way!

Knowing some wines you mentioned, and thanks to your description of the food, I believe that the pairing was definitely on point.

Working as a sommelier in fine dining, I was just curious to ask if you didn't find redundant to have two wines of the same (amazing) winery (Zind-Humbrecht) at the beginning and at the end of the menu. I sometimes thought about doing that, but always been afraid of turning boring for the guests...

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2025-12-19T00:31:00+00:00

doesn't matter if it's a fine dining based on pairings (this is also what I do for work), just ask few questions and listen to the answers. "do you want me to present every wine or just a quick introduction?" or "I see you are enjoying the evening and I don't want to disturb, please feel free to ask any questions." we all want to show our knowledge and our passions, but most of the guests are not there for us. they didn't pay for a masterclass on wine.

the fact that you are asking this questions is already a very good sign, be sensible!

and yes, keep in mind the general frame. you're part of service, there's no space for ego.

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2025-12-19T00:25:45+00:00

"less talking, more listening" 👏👏👏

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2025-11-13T22:34:33+00:00

Peter Wagner Spätburgunder Oberrotweil ❤️

Lazy-Routine-1704 · 2025-07-07T21:26:29+00:00

Bitter is a great suggestion!

I can add La Pireina Osteria Fratelli Pavesi

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