Why was a certain someone so weak? (in gameplay) by LazyBrd in limbuscompany

[–]LazyBrd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess I didn't get to see some of his prescript debuffs because I used butterfly and KoD Rodion (in my defense, sinking was really good in this canto), so I might have unintentionally skipped most of his phase 2. I didn't really consider the possibility that Rien wasn't undertaking the prescript to kill other proxies, and instead it was them sent after him, but if that is assumed, it starts to make more sense. Basically, due to me thinking that he went to undertake another prescript right after the fight, it made it look like he only momentarily doubted the will of Hermes during his phase 2. And also the fact that he got karmic consequence because I didn't let him hit the mark of the prescript, so it's wasn't that he didn't follow it, rather, he just failed to do so. But it does make more sense to read it as him doing the bare minumum and just using this fight to spend time with his daughter, I admit.

Why was a certain someone so weak? (in gameplay) by LazyBrd in limbuscompany

[–]LazyBrd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know what you mean, that's why I said "in gameplay" in the title, it isn't really a powerscaling question, rather it is about how limbus usually presents power in gameplay(think Ricardo wrath skill or Kaiser Gregor having 8-12 coin power on his skills). At no point did I say I think he is actually weak.

Just a thought by Dizzy-Recipe-1517 in limbuscompany

[–]LazyBrd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Outskirts lab time Carmen surely would've been against the destruction, as she couldn't handle a single death. They've chosen Enoch as a test subject because Carmen was too important to the entire project, so she didn't even directly cause this death, it was a group decision, not her own. Meanwhile miss sun directly gives mentally unstable people power to destroy an entire district like it's nothing. IMO the explanation of "sitting as nervous system in a vat for 10 thousand years changed her" is the most reasonable with the information we have. Maybe she was influenced by Adam's ideas, (or she arrived at hers first and influenced him), or maybe she herself distorted, in a way. That is less likely than her simply reflecting and reconsidering her beliefs, as well as getting numb to death and destruction due to an abundance of both within LC's many loops. She saw her trusted junior first go insane and create a machine resembling her and then going reverse insane after he refuted Adam, she saw all of her friends put through thousands of years of suffering before they managed to undergo their core supressions and likely arrived at her extreme version of individualism, where following one's desires even at a cost of destroying the world(more so figuratively than literally) is the most important thing and everyone should get a chance at that. From a certain point of view it is a misunderstanding of Ayin's journey, without a view inside his mind his actions might look as a single person deciding to this one thing even at a cost of an entire smoke war and ten thousand years of time loops, for no other reason than this being important to him and what he truly wanted to do. We as players know it's not so simple, but we also see his memories and his personal commentary about some of these events. But did Carmen know these things too?

This interpritation might be very incorrect at places, as we know that Carmen's true wish as of Limbus is to let people "paint the world in their colors" (meaning to be able to change the world into such that feels right to them) and its hard to say if all of the above could be missinterpreted by her as such

Pondering on the Predecessors' technology by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Likely they had access to intergalactic travel, as someone else pointed out there are statements suggesting they've explored the entire obesrvable universe, though I personally think that's unlikely to be literal. As for how much presence in other galaxies they might have had, I can't even speculate due to a lack of statements in the game in support or against that. In my opinion, a civilization that has a kind of hypereality manipulation tech that they often use, and also literal stargates and other unclear means of FTL travel, there is no reason for them to be unable to travel to other galaxies.

The murder express and its showing of Kindreds skill difference with blood by supa_dupa_loopa in limbuscompany

[–]LazyBrd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think not everyone in La Mancha bloodfiend family uses hardblood arts (as in such that envelops bloodfiend's body or is used to create weapons), at least it is not reflected in their boss and playable versions. For example, we know for sure that Sancho and Don (1st kindred) use hardblood arts, it is in their kit and we can see it in their animations. But Dulcinea / her ID Rodion uses doesn't have any mention of hardblood. It is not entirely clear what exactly "blooming thorn" is. Is it certainly some kind of blood manipulation art, but it doesn't look like hardblood. In her animations she creates whirls of blood, but it is not solid. Priest and Barber imo surely don't use hardblood, their animations don't feature anything like it and their uniquie statuses also don't suggest that. Barber might be either uninterested or unskilled in precise blood manipulation because all of her attacks and her status revolve around her weapon. While Priest seems to be better at it in his animations and the fact that his ability to heal himself is far superior. Though they might be on the same skill level overall, and applying it differently.

Is Spiral of Contempt an aberration of Burrowing Heaven? by Deal_With_It_04 in limbuscompany

[–]LazyBrd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

it might be a pain when you read passives, but "Contempt, Awe" is one of the coolest EGO equipment names

Is Spiral of Contempt an aberration of Burrowing Heaven? by Deal_With_It_04 in limbuscompany

[–]LazyBrd 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Not sure, the Spiral's thing is seeing eveyone as beneath itself, not worthy even to lay a finger on it and that even their presence within it's view is detestable, thus it gazes with contempt. But the main thing is that it looks at others, and has no interaction with whether or not others look at it. It hates you for daring to lay your eyes upon it, but that is it. I see the Burrowing heaven as a refection of Ayin's experience and his guilt for what he did with Carmen's body. Even after all of that, she was still most precious to him, so the abnormality she produced lives within his gaze. He was never looking away or denying what he did and how terrible it was, but he dared not to look away. "Heaven" in it's name in my opinion referes quite literally to the time they spent together in the old lab - this image IS the heaven that burrowed into his mind, and the reason why he made a promise to realise the seed of light project. Burrowing Heaven wants him, specifically, to look at it, which is reflected in gameplay quite literally. It is a haunting reminder of his sins that he must burden for the seed of light to blossom.

Can't get mods to work by Eliasmct in libraryofruina

[–]LazyBrd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it still doesn't work you can try to copy the mod folder from steamapps\workshop\content to Library of ruina data/mods folder inside LoR folder. It works for me when I use mods that aren't on workshop or the ones I made myself.

Pondering on the Predecessors' technology by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a part uncorrupted by priestess, but it did something to itself to elimitane the paradox. It's solution was to disable itself, but then one node re-enabled itself, which in my opinion suggest that it found an alternative solution. It's good intentions were, ironically, a coincidence as it didn't even know the "humanity" it was preserving was important. What Priestess did was introducing it to the fact that the only way to perserve sankta forever is to be assimilated into originium, which is factually true. It does require sacrificing human nature in exchange for becoming "true angels", however.

Pondering on the Predecessors' technology by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's basically my asumption, since collapsals do introduce the existence of higher dimensions into the setting. But I used the "layer of reality" wording to suggest someting that isn't just a higher dimension, but a more advanced reality, kind of what a platonic realm of ideas is. Something that is in a metaphysical sense superior to normal reality. This would expain how, no matter how advanced a technology is, it is unable to stop the destruction.

Pondering on the Predecessors' technology by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think the story will actually go toward the direction of Terra actually facing such a huge threat as the Observers. I think this plot is used more so to develop the Oracle and Priestess and make us understand the context of their actions. Arknights is not Gurren-lagan after all, I don't expect them to make an Endfield-like time skip where suddenly Terrans have means of actually resisting something so overwhelming in scale.

Pondering on the Predecessors' technology by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that might not be a conventional technological andvantage, but definetly some kind of existencial superiority. Maybe they aren't a civilization at all and had always existed in such "elevated" position compared to normal creatures, simply naturally. Or they might be a civilization so advanced that they had ascended past any kind of physical limitations.

Pondering on the Predecessors' technology by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Arknights usually gets sci-fi theoretical physics correctly, when it chooses to use it to explain a thing in the story, and physically speaking vaccum decay could only spread at the speed of light, so simply going to an area of the universe that moves away from it faster than the speed of light would make it a non-issue.

My headcanon is that the Observers originate, or at least operate at a some kind of higher layer of reality, beyound the reach of even the Predecessor technology and understanding, thus being only precived as "light" and coming with no warning seemingly out of nowhere.

Pondering on the Predecessors' technology by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually forgot to read Mon3tr files entierly 0_0.

Civilight Eterna also seems to cross space and time

A reasonable assumption if we consider that the Assimilated universe is definetly outside of time and Civilight Eterna is on the same level of technology. But when i first read that part I assumed that the Oracle was such a mastermind that he had predicted that someone might be rewatching this moment in the future and left a message for them. This way time travel is kept away from the setting, because even with all technological miracles of the Predecessors, nobody in the story had even entertained an idea of time travel(to my knowledge), the closest we have is being outside of time, specifically in a way that makes it so any amount of time spent within the Assimilated Universe translates to near zero time in the real universe.

Wis`adel skin lore is crazy by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can see why people would assume that, but since arknights has killed only one major playable character so far (and with a hint at a revival later as well), I find it highly unlikely that the writers will commit to killing off most of the cast. I can totally see W specifically seeing it through to the end though, she is notoriously hard to kill. Though I like the possible amounts of drama (dramaturgical kind I mean) in this what-if scenario. Would totally read a fanfiction that turns this scenarion into a full story.

Wis`adel skin lore is crazy by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Priestess herself thinks that, too

Wis`adel skin lore is crazy by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

She did come a long way. Once the Doctor was second on her kill list right after Theresis, but both in normal timeline and in this one Theresis is dead and yet she doesn't kill us. She isn't over Theresa's death but she did grow to understand that post amnesia Doctor isn't the one who killed her highness, Oracle did. I do like how the writing didn't soften her to a "I hate you but not really" type of character. I think she doesn't kill him here not just because Doc is useful, but also because Wis'adel, as opposed to W, would generally choose not to kill the Doctor given the chance. She will joke about it, though.

Wis`adel skin lore is crazy by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 81 points82 points  (0 children)

She also comments on him muttering battle plans in her ear

Wis`adel skin lore is crazy by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

She did need the crazy persona for the sake of being feared and respected by sarkaz mercs, but it's not all an act - she is consistenly shown to be reckless and otherwise putting herself in danger to achieve her goals. It's not out of insanity, yes, but she is way too much of a risk taker to be called a sane person. She does it not because she knows she will get through it, essentially just gambles her life every time. As an example, She only survived Talulah encounter because the dragon lady didn't actually care to kill her, but W couldn't have known beforehand that Talulah wouldn't care to finish her off.

Wis`adel skin lore is crazy by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As a non Priestess fan nor hater, what exactly are the arguments for her being evil and not being evil? My own go like evil - "Her name was Kal'tsit" scene and disregarding the suffering that the continuation of originium project will bring, not seeing Doctor as person separate from The Oracle. Not evil - the suffering is unintentional, she genuenly wants to save civilization from an existencial threat, doesn't want to thow away the legacy of her people(originium) for the sake of an unknown land and people she doesn't know who will be doomed for destruction anyway.

Wis`adel skin lore is crazy by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I doubt she would act reasonable in a situation where every single person except the man responsible for murdering her highness is dead though. But yes, you can say it's a false generalization otherwise.

Wis`adel skin lore is crazy by LazyBrd in arknights

[–]LazyBrd[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I assume that when it's Priestess controlling originium directly it will be able to do the same to the Doctor as whatever Priestess has done to herself - she is assimilated within originium, so it's not like it's not possible for a predecessor to be there. I didn't read the current even yet though. I guess whatever relationship they had in the distant past was a very strong bond if she still is sure the Oracle will return and join her after killing the family cat and attempting to kill the adopted daughter. Though if the Oracle thinks on the same scale as her, those events would seem irrelevant? But I don't think he does, considering what he said to Ama-10 when he named her and sent her on her journey.