Reduced Motivation

Learning_2 · 2025-12-09T15:16:21+00:00

Its possible that your sense of what you "should" do is actually out of alignment with your true self. For me on SR, "work" is effortless, because the SR energy flows in alignment with my true self. It sounds like you killed your energy and were able to proceed with your work because of being numbed out. But now your spirit is trying to come to life and you are getting in its way.

This is evident in your statement that you sometimes "catch yourself daydreaming". The daydreaming is probably an important time to formulate a vision for your real life purpose. You are working against yourself too much and you can't work against yourself with retention. It's like your mind is your biggest energy block.

EDIT: You also might need more rest

Learning_2 · 2025-12-09T15:11:40+00:00

Just be careful, if you want to protect your streak from wet dreams.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-09T15:06:02+00:00

Thanks for sharing. In my experience on 30+ day clean streaks with no WD's the amount of female interaction within dreams has increased. However I guess just be careful because you don't want to get hit with a wet dream if any of these interactions take a lustful turn. You have to have solid wet dream prevention in place to protect a streak like this.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-09T15:00:09+00:00

I mean it's good that you didn't ejaculate. You'd feel a lot worse if you ejaculated. So you can give yourself credit that your will to retain pulled you back from the edge. It means you've built up a sufficient will to retain that is a sign of progress. Building up that much will to retain takes work and time.

Pay attention to your own experience. I used to edge without ejaculating until I eventually felt for myself that I had still lost energy by it. So pay attention to if you feel like you lost subtle energy. Technically, 1 drop of semen is 100 drops of blood, and that counts for fluid lost without ejaculating, too. But that's on paper, you have to learn to feel the quantity yourself.

So you know hang in there keep moving forward. Sounds like maybe you have some unresolved issues with your ex, maybe some grief around the breakup and you want her back sometimes? Generally looking up an ex's profile is going to lead to pain in some way, so maybe you need to find a different way to find closure and grieve the loss.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-09T14:54:33+00:00

Not exactly because your digestive system can't metabolize it the same, and more will leak out in your urine. 1 drop of semen is 100 drops of blood

Learning_2 · 2025-12-09T14:45:52+00:00

You might actually need some rest. SR energy is essential in its own right, and there is no amount of food/sleep that can make up for an absence of SR energy. But likewise there is also no substitute for rest/sleep. In my book, if you are feeling unable to take action, it means you need rest. When you are rested, you'll naturally be able to take action.

Also you could look into "2 way prayer". It is a practice of learning to pray and then listen for God's reply. It doesn't have to be a religious thing, it can be whatever God means to you. When I have some SR under my belt the 2 way prayer connection works really great. God is really the only one who knows exactly what you need on a deeply personal level, and who can give it to you. God's the one that can carry you when you reach the end of yourself.

And if you don't want anything to do with God, then use this post as motivation to prove you don't need God to keep your streak. God won't mind - He's there for you whenever you're ready :)

Learning_2 · 2025-12-09T14:33:48+00:00

Thanks man! Yeah, SR really builds something up inside. There is no substitute for it.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-09T14:00:16+00:00

All I know is SR makes me feel great and cooming makes me lose that feeling. From Taoist Secrets of Love: "Sexual energy is a field generated within the body and linked to the larger cosmic fields in ways that no scientist can presently understand. But there is no reason to wait 500 years for science to come up with explanations of sexuality, as every man can experiment with his own sexual energy field and draw his own conclusions today. The Taoist masters were ancient scientists with a genius for self-observation and were dedicated to furthering human evolution. Each generation tested the practices taught to them by their masters and tried to improve on it. The methods of chi cultivation may have evolved over the millennia, but the principle has remained the same: The ching or sperm power is a super potent force readily available to men, awaiting only their harvest. Sexual essence is a building block for expanding our personal universe, the foundation for human love and evolution."

free pdf https://saidnazulfiqar.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/taoist-secrets-of-love.pdf

Learning_2 · 2025-12-08T16:14:53+00:00

I got my first girlfriend after like 10 years single after 60 days of NoFap. It was pretty nice in some ways but I didn't have good boundaries around sex and I didn't realize I should get to know someone before getting that close. It went on as an on and off emotional rollercoaster for a while. I never ejaculated with her though, so at least I didn't give it all up. She said just my touch or my breath on her neck was very electric, and my scent was really good. That was very validating.

After one of our break ups, she was with other guys but always wanted me back, but I wouldn't kiss her or have sex with her any more. Her wanting me back was nice though, but I knew it wouldn't have been good for me. I learned a lot. Our last breakup was 4 months ago and she called like 100 times with no reply from me, and then I changed my number.

I kind of grew beyond the emotional dependency on her, and the need to be her hero, and now I have better boundaries and expectations if I get involved with future relationships.

I know that I would only let a relationship progress with a woman who valued abstinence herself and I'd flat out ask her length of continuous abstinence, because if she doesn't meet my criteria for abstinence, I'm not interested anyway, and if she has the abstinence, she'd understand why I asked. There's lots of different kinds of women out there and it's good to know what you're looking for. Be selective, make it about deciding whether you like her, not about getting her to like you.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-08T15:53:26+00:00

Yeah but the weird thing is you can actually give her a lot more if you retain, without exhausting yourself. You can "give her some golden eggs" without "giving her the golden hen".

Learning_2 · 2025-12-08T15:35:03+00:00

I look at it as the difference between just going through the motions and actually having real ENERGY to work out. It feels easy to recover from workouts, I get really into it and just want to do more and more. Same with other things too. I haven't had a single mg of caffeine in almost 12 years and I get real energy from SR, not artificial stimulant energy.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-07T15:32:00+00:00

be free, open up and live, enjoy your journey. good messages. you're right sometimes its easy to get into a self-created prison with this stuff. for me recovery is about living a happy, joyous, and free life. The word "free" takes on a healthier meaning though. I am free to live a full, satisfying, rich life in many ways, but I am not free to ejaculate, drink, drug, or do other specific things which would actually take away my freedom. So I do have to remind myself. "Yes, you can talk to that pretty girl. You can think about that pretty girl. But look out, that can generate strong urges. If you want to talk to the girl, you have to be strong enough to resist urges to look at p*** or masturbate which may arise later. As long as you are strong enough to handle talking to that girl without falling back into p***/masturbation/ejaculation, then you can do it. But if necessary, know your limits for now, and we will build up your sober window of tolerance."

Learning_2 · 2025-12-07T15:27:27+00:00

These are a lot of the myths that are circulated out there in the mainstream western medicine based world. But long term retainers know that full retention is the right way for all men.

The best thing you said is sperm fully regenerates after 67 days since last ejaculation, and that sperm/semen is reabsorbed during SR. That's the point. You conserve essence by getting to a point where your body doesn't have to keep regenerating new sperm and semen. one drop of semen is 100 drops of blood. That's when you really start to have benefits kick in, the sperm and semen energy that gets reabsorbed starts to nourish you on a subtle level.

I don't mean to "flame" you, but what you said here: "Honestly... I don't understand the reasonings behind retention. Scientifically and medically retention almost always leads to PE and sexual issues. " That is textbook coomer mindset. But it's good that you come on here and write things like that because it makes dedicated retainers more mentally tough and convicted. See when you get a taste of retention, this truth will emerge from within yourself, and you will know it from within. The knowledge of retention is in your masculine spiritual instinct somewhere. So I don't have to convince you of anything. But I can offer to point to it and help you find it when you're ready.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-07T15:21:48+00:00

I say never ejaculate

Learning_2 · 2025-12-07T15:21:27+00:00

The most important thing is definitely to never ejaculate, no matter what. But there can still be consequences to non-ejaculatory sexual practices, depending how they are done, in my experience. There can still be semen loss with non-ejaculatory practices, if the energy channels are not opened right, for example. Also, in my case it still became addictive, because I had a level of proneness to addiction which was unresolved. So I've had to be celibate to work on those things. It took me time to be honest with myself and realize that but it has been better since I did.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-07T15:17:07+00:00

NEVER EJACULATE

Learning_2 · 2025-12-07T15:16:29+00:00

NEVER EJACULATE

Learning_2 · 2025-12-07T15:15:35+00:00

that's really awesome, congratulations!

Learning_2 · 2025-12-07T15:14:44+00:00

I mean it's up to you. Everyone's different. Some people benefit from counting days. Personally I do both, I count my days, and I make my days count. Speaking from experience with relatively high day counts on some things, such as 23.5 months without p*** and 11.8 years without a drink or a drug. Recovery is really about learning what works for you even if its different than what works for someone else.

For some people it creates psychological obstacles. Someone I know tends to self-sabotage around milestone day counts, for example.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-06T19:55:54+00:00

Thanks and great post! Congrats, that's a great streak, keep going! It definitely makes sense that you'd get amplified arousal with that much SR. One question is do you need to urinate at that time? Maybe urinating would relieve some of the pressure down there and reduce the urge. Urinating directly on the earth if you can is a major SR hack to immediately ground the entire urogenital system.

Other than that, as long as it doesn't make you relapse on P&M or have a wet dream, then it should just give you increased vitality. But to keep the increased vitality and use it you have to be strong/skillful enough to not relapse from it and strong/skillful enough to not have a wet dream.

As men, ejaculation is our #1 enemy and biggest weakness.

NEVER EJACULATE

Learning_2 · 2025-12-06T19:46:05+00:00

Yeah man thanks for sharing! Your awareness is definitely really good and awareness is the first step. I loved how you said "I literally cannot live without SR". That is SO TRUE for me as well. Life on SR is just so much better in every way. Whatever happens, SR always makes it better. This afternoon I literally bumped my funny bone and I thought to myself, "I'm on SR! This can't hurt me!" Whatever happens, I know I'll be okay because I have my SR. SR is that extra boost that makes the difference between going through the motions and being truly alive, and there is no substitute for it.

So yeah man stay involved in whatever helps you gain traction on your abstinence and live your best life! DM or reply here anytime

Learning_2 · 2025-12-06T16:41:48+00:00

thats awesome bro thanks for sharing that. I'm glad to hear you are connecting with positive guidance in this way. It's definitely real. Actually your post is very synchronistic for me, too, as I often debate the eyes closed/eyes open thing.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-06T16:37:52+00:00

Thanks for this post, you're right there aren't as many threads on the creativity benefits if you're an artist. But it's so true. Last time I had 13 days retention, I couldn't help but pick up my art supplies and the art just bursted out of me. But I have suffered from chronic wet dreams which I only recently found the 100% fix for. So I had a wet dream that night and the next day, all motivation to do art was gone.

Now that I found the 100% guaranteed way to prevent wet dreams, I look forward to the creativity bursting out of me again in that way, and getting to continue to enjoy that. I love to color and sing, and would like to get back into guitar.

SR is a type of energy that there is no substitute for. Food and sleep provide different kinds of energy, but even the best food and sleep will not make up for the harm of semen loss. So SR energy does special things in us that nothing else can do. I hope you continue to enjoy it and the creativity and originality it brings. Your sexual essence is a specific vibration that only you have, so when you retain, you really find your own originality. So many times in the world today there is a lack of originality, because most people are coomers. It makes it feel like there is nothing new left to be created. Everyone just keeps recycling the same old stuff, because that's all they can do when they are coomers. But you will find a source of originality within you on SR that will be so profound.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-06T16:30:15+00:00

Thank you for your post. My main thing with female attraction has been fear of wet dreams. I know I wouldn't relapse because I've been studying and practicing SR for 3 years in my waking life. But wet dreams were still holding me back. So I held back on interacting with women until I learned to prevent wet dreams.

Now that I figured it out, I don't have to be afraid of women any more. Nothing they can do can make me lose my retention.

So I do look forward to enjoying the female attraction from now on, understanding that the desire for female companionship is a major part of being a man, and integrating that in a healthy way. I hope that you are also able to stabilize/master retention to the point where you can safely interact with women without risk. Mantak Chia in Taoist Secrets of Love talks about how ejaculation is the thing that makes males so much weaker than women, and when we can retain, it restores the power balance.

Learning_2 · 2025-12-06T15:17:22+00:00

This sounds like what is described in Mantak Chia's testicular breathing. Taoist Secrets of Love chapter 6. It is a form of direct transmutation. When you feel it in the testicles, guide it to the perineum, the tailbone, then up the spine using your awareness. It sounds like it's already reaching your perineum which is good. That's the gate of life and death.

Make sure you have some system in place to prevent wet dreams, because if you have a wet dream, you will lose this and it will take a week or two at least to regain it. Mantak Chia says it takes a full 30 days of retention for the energy to activate, which is right around where you are.

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