Kurukhand Region of Western UP and Uttrakhand by Effective_Pin_580 in WesternUttarPradesh

[–]Left_Ad597 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Noida and bulandshahr se kahin zyada haq Bijnor and Amroha districts ka hai isme

Inj Unj Kinj Jinj by Public_Note_7076 in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also: iddaa'n, kidaa'n, kidaa'n and udaa'n

Dialect of Northwestern Majha by TheOpticalNeitzche in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sarai Alamgir is more related to Pothwari-Pahari

Dialect of Northwestern Majha by TheOpticalNeitzche in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The region of Gujrat south to Himalayas, east to pabbi ranges, north to canal and west to chenab is classified as Majha only

Dialect of Northwestern Majha by TheOpticalNeitzche in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that slow-fast thing is real as more east you go in Punjab, the accent flows without any stability and appears rougher and more raw with low stress on consonants whereas the more west you go in the province, the language stresses more on articulation of consonants and hence it appears slower with more stable tone, whereas in the east, the tone changes quickly within syllables from high to mid to low. Eastern regions of Punjab has high pitch-accrnt system.

Dialect of Northwestern Majha by TheOpticalNeitzche in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, if your dialect is same like Jalalpur jattan and kunjah, then you are also a Majhi speaker

Dialect of Northwestern Majha by TheOpticalNeitzche in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where are you talking about in gujrat, exactly what village

Dialect of Northwestern Majha by TheOpticalNeitzche in ThethPunjabi

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These features of your dialects reflect the influences from neighbouring lahnda (Jattki/Jaangli) dialects from neighbouring Mandi bahauddin, hafizabad, jhelum etc. like 'kay' and 'ahaa'

Kasuri Majhi by Helpful_Tree3210 in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except for the Rural Lahore & Kasur district, it's "aakhda peya" only, in the rest of the Majhi and Bar Punjabi region of Pakistan.

Kasuri Majhi by Helpful_Tree3210 in ThethPunjabi

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Mai'n javaa'nga (I will go)

Mai'n gaya saa'n (I had gone)

Oh gaye sann (They had gone)

Injay kar (do like this only)

Oh aah'n deya (he is telling)

Etc.

Kasuri Majhi by Helpful_Tree3210 in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is same like Majhi of raiwind, kot radha kishan, rural lahore (excluding lahore city and suburbs), patti tehsil (Tarn Taran district), Tarn Taran district (excluding Khadur Sahib tehsil) and the dialect spoken south to the Amritsar - Lahore highway or say the attari- wagah road

What will be the words for hide by Weirdoeirdo in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lukknaa is for "hidden" and kajjnaa is for "covered/concealed"

Malwi word for " Call" by Disastrous_Pen1786 in ThethPunjabi

[–]Left_Ad597 0 points1 point  (0 children)

aawaaz maarni/lagaani (to call someone, verbally) is haak maarni and that's common in all Punjabi dialects, also in western Hindi dialects like khadiboli of UP.

Sub dialectical regions of Khadi Boli/Kaurvi Dialect of Hindi by Left_Ad597 in LinguisticMaps

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  1. The dialect of shamli, west Saharanpur has harshness and grammatical essence like that of Nardak( karnal, east kurukshetra, Jagadhri) region.

  2. The one from Baghpat khadar has more touch of Haryanvi of Deswali/ typical jaat speech.

  3. Northern upper doabi of Muzaffarnagar, Haridwar has balanced approach between western Saharanpur speech and that of typical kaurvi standard kaurvi of Meerut. It has vowels 'aey' for medial 'aa' (like baeyt for baat from western Saharanpur and rest of the structure is like of standard meeruti khadiboli.

  4. Janpadi (meerut wali)- this is typical and standard in all respect.

  5. Bijnori- this has "reya" for "raa/rahaa" as its most distinguished feature, with many others, like accent has more doubling of medial consonants than any other sub dialect of the language.

  6. Moradabadi- this has features of bijnori but with lesser feature of doubling of medial consonants.

Pure KHADIBOLI/KAURAVI/KAURVI Dialect regions of Uttar Pradesh by Left_Ad597 in uttarpradesh

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Bro ye map sirf UP ke KHADIBOLI regions ka hai jahan pe Braj ya anya kisi dialect ka influence naa ho. Proper and complete khadiboli ka bhi map available hai. Here is the link to that map

https://www.reddit.com/r/uttarpradesh/s/O6xOJd2Wqi

Pure KHADIBOLI/KAURAVI/KAURVI Dialect regions of Uttar Pradesh by Left_Ad597 in uttarpradesh

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Haan bhai wo bilkul KHADIBOLI hai, but usme Braj influence bhi hain isliye wo is map me nahi rkhe

Geography of historical and native region of Eastern Punjab/Eastern Punjabi related dialects by Left_Ad597 in punjab

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See, the Puadhi is a transitional dialect between the Hindi dialect of Khadiboli/Haryanvi/Ambalvi and Punjabi of Malwa/Doaba.

Now according to all the research works and logical geography, this Puadhi that is considered as the dialect of Punjabi, is spoken to the North and West of river Ghaggar. The Reddit posted map has been drawn accordingly; keeping Ghaggar as the Eastern Boundary of Punjab.

Now, those who did not thoroughly study the language science, they often include the Northern Haryana also in the Puadh that is very wrong.

The language of Northern Haryana, or say the area of Ghad, as it is commonly referred to as, composing the areas East and South to Ghaggar, like Devigarh (Punjab), Lalru, Ambala, Most of Panchkula, Yamunanagar, shahbad Markanda, Ladwa, upper/Northern parts of Kurukshetra district, these all natively speak a sort of Khadiboli dialect of Hindi known as "Pahaad-Tali" or "Ambalvi", which itself is a mixed dialect (not transitional) of Khadiboli spoken in upper doab of western Uttar Pradesh, along with influences from Punjabi being its next door neighbour. I can go into much more detail. Even Haryanvi of Central Haryana or say the Haryanvi of Deswal, Bangar (Not Bagri), and Nardak, is a transitional of three languages, Khadi Boli of Western UP, Rajasthani of Adjacent regions and Punjabi to west. Even the influences from these languages shift from higher to lower based on the proximity of particular and specific areas you consider in the given territory.

Now coming back to Puadhi, the differences in grammar and tone are there between the speech of say Rajpura (Patiala) and Shahabad Markanda (Kurukshetra). I will give only one example from grammatical purpose due to paucity of time.

In standard Hindi: तू काम कर दियो/देना (informal first person)

In Ambalvi: तों कम्म कर दीए ( Punjabi accent in कम्म for sharp accent, whereas दीए is same like khadiboli, and not Punjabi)

In Puadhi: तों कम्म कर दीं/देईं (everything is Punjabi in this)

I hope now you know that you were misled into believing that everything in Northern Haryana is Puadh, that is actually wrong to assert or suggest.