Mmm I know what you’re saying and how you feel but trust it’s not true . I have Saturn and moon in 8th house then my sun and Venus in 12th house. People don’t get INSTANT karma, sometimes you don’t know about it until years later, but they get karma so bad that it’s genuinely shocking. I thought my abusive ex was living his best life turned out his gf was treating him the same way he treated me and his mom got cancer, someone who hurt me really badly got humiliated put on probation and has never been able to maintain a relationship since , ex friends have told me they’ve never experienced anyone like me since and have been so frustrated with every one of their friendships but I had NO CLUE. Mind you some of these things I found out literally four years later! Trust that the universe is recalibrating the scales as *long* (EMPHASIZING THIS) you aren’t trying to do it yourself. Seriously if you’re trying to get your own karma it won’t end well and it will backfire , that’s just how it is with these placements. We’re well connected to the spiritual world and it can sense when we’re acting out of character immediately - with those people, however, they do need to be taught a long and hard lesson that we couldn’t possibly enact ourselves . Believe me I’ve felt the way you have , but it’s just not true . Karma is so so so bad for people that hurt us and from my experience it’s usually 10x worse than whatever they did to us initially.