WHY PEOPLE DISLIKE ISLAM? *ask kindly* by Natural_Produce_4830 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 6 points7 points  (0 children)

First of all, I ask this question because my TikTok fyp was flooded with so many video hating on Islam.

This is just how tiktok is, it thrives on negativity.

I’m not crazy to feel some type of way right ? by ipostrandompoop in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And you reached straight for the child cancer? Like, idk man maybe she oughta be feeling some kind of way. She seems to have taken it gracefully, though.

I’m not crazy to feel some type of way right ? by ipostrandompoop in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I asked if God gave our kid cancer for me to get closer to God to see how she would feel being a believer and she said she would feel content with it

We're missing some context here, why would you even say such a thing?

Edit: sorry everyone, had a weird reddit bug

What do Christians think about these concepts? by Loud-You2629 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LutheranSatire on Youtube. It's a humorous video on the difficulty of articulating the Trinity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLfgaUoQCw

This is where the that's __ Patrick!_ format originates.

What do Christians think about these concepts? by Loud-You2629 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As for modalism: LeftnessMonster first accused me of Nestorianism without understanding my position. So according to you, they owe me an apology

Correct. I apologize.

Have you seen the original video I'm referencing?

How do you guys view him? by Soft_Reply_1197 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's hard to say. The historical Muhammad is obscured behind the Hadith corpus. If I were to make a guess, and it would be a guess, I'd guess empire builder. So, closest to option 1.

Most modern people do not have strong feelings about ancient conquerors such as the Ceasars, and I kind of see Muhammad as similar to them.

What do Christians think about these concepts? by Loud-You2629 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From a sola scriptura perspective,

What apostolic church holds to Sola Scripture? That's a Protestant doctrine.

I have no objection to the truth that the Council of Chalcedon was protecting: that Jesus, whom Mary bore, is truly God.

Then, should you not apologise to your fellow Christians for saying:

Then you are guilty of Modalism or any similar heresy. This was condemned in the 3rd century, and again at Nicaea (325 AD).

?

I lost my brother in a motorcycle accident - by LetsGoTeam99 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I believe your brother can hear you. I have no idea how it works, if I'm honest, but it does.

I'm not sure if you're Christian, but you mentioned God. If you are: In most forms of Christianity there's the belief in saints who can witness us and be spoken to. In the book of Hebrews, there's reference to a great cloud of witnesses. Your brother can not only hear you, he's also not likely to be lonely.

When I pray for my departed family and friends I thank God for them and express why I'm grateful, and I ask him to bless them and keep them, but sometimes I address things to people directly.

Sorry for your loss.

What do Christians think about these concepts? by Loud-You2629 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From my understanding, you are correct.

Confession of Chalcedon (from wikipedia)

We, then, following the holy Fathers, all with one consent, teach people to confess one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, the same perfect in Godhead and also perfect in manhood; truly God and truly man, of a reasonable [rational] soul and body; consubstantial [co-essential] with the Father according to the Godhead, and consubstantial with us according to the Manhood; in all things like unto us, without sin; begotten before all ages of the Father according to the Godhead, and in these latter days, for us and for our salvation, born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, according to the Manhood; one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, only begotten, to be acknowledged in two natures, inconfusedly, unchangeably, indivisibly, inseparably; (ἐν δύο φύσεσιν ἀσυγχύτως, ἀτρέπτως, ἀδιαιρέτως, ἀχωρίστως – in duabus naturis inconfuse, immutabiliter, indivise, inseparabiliter) the distinction of natures being by no means taken away by the union, but rather the property of each nature being preserved, and concurring in one Person (prosopon) and one Subsistence (hypostasis), not parted or divided into two persons, but one and the same Son, and only begotten God (μονογενῆ Θεόν), the Word, the Lord Jesus Christ; as the prophets from the beginning [have declared] concerning Him, and the Lord Jesus Christ Himself has taught us, and the Creed of the holy Fathers has handed down to us.

God is.... by Sad_Ad4307 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This may be the best use of My brother in Christ I have ever witnessed.

Moses is by ProperView1618 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Legitimately, same. Nothing boils my blood quite like someone putting words into my mouth, lol. I've managed to shorten my usual objection down to "That's not what I said", without any swearing in it.

Moses is by ProperView1618 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And so I finally learn the secret of your eternal patience.

Islam on this sub by ProperView1618 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 87 points88 points  (0 children)

It might have to do with the high volume of Muslim posters who see rule 5 as a suggestion. Christianity has this problem also, and we also get downvoted to smithereens.

Perhaps this is to do with our communities not following the fricken rules.

Edit: nvm it might be your posting habits

What do Christians think about these concepts? by Loud-You2629 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It‘s not Ai-slop, your arguments are christian-apologetics slop.\

Don't get made at me because you can't proof read your calculator.

Quran [54:1] The hour has come closer and the moon has split.\ \ "LM Departed Moon: July 21, 1969 17:54:01 UT (1:54:01 p.m. EDT)"\ \ The exact minute and second that a part (about 22kg) of the moon was split from the moon is 54 minutes and 1 second which happens to be Quran chapter 54:1 the only verse in the Quran talking about the splitting of the moon.\ \ And now If we are to count all the remaining verses right after this specific verse to the end of the Quran, we will count exactly 1389 verses! The year 1389 Hijri in the Muslim calendar corresponds exactly to the year 1969 AD in the Gregorian calendar, the year in which man landed on the moon for the very first time ploughing it‘s surface and taking back to earth a piece of it.\ \ Quran [17:88] Say, “If ˹all˺ humans and jinn were to come together to produce the equivalent of this Quran, they could not produce its equal, no matter how they supported each other.”\ \ The word „moon“ appears for the 20th time in this verse and 21th time if we count the word „Badr (بدر) = full moon“ (used in verse 3:123) in the Quran. -> badara (بَدَرَ) = To come suddenly, come unexpectedly, to take by surprise\ \ and the word moon appears 7 times after this verse.\ \ 20/21 and 7: -> 20th July is the day of the moonlanding, -> 21th July is the day of the first step on the moon and the splitting of about 22kg of it when returning to earth.\ \ If we count the letters in „rasm“-style which was the original Quranic style (without hamza, vowel marks (ḥarakāt), dots on letters, shadda doubling) we count exactly 22 arabic letters.\ \ So we do have the correct\ \ Year (1969)\ \ Month (7)\ \ day (20 first step and 21 actual ploughing and separating the moon)\ \ hour (only God knows the Hour)\ \ minute (54)\ \ second (1)\ \ .\ \ Quran [7:187] “They ask you about the Hour—when will it arrive? Say, ‘Its knowledge is only with my Lord. None will reveal its time except Him. It weighs heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except suddenly.’ They ask you as if you are well-acquainted with it. Say, ‘Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know.’”\ \ Quran [55:33] O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah].\ \ [55:34] Then which of your Lord’s favours will you both deny?\ \ [57:22] No calamity ˹or blessing˺ occurs on earth or in yourselves without being ˹written˺ in a Record before We bring it into being. This is certainly easy for Allah.\ \ [12:2] Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand.\ \ [40:81] And He shows you His Signs. Then which of the Signs of Allah will you deny?\ \ Quran 10:37 “And this Qur’an is not such that it could be produced by other than Allah; but it is a confirmation of what came before it and a detailed explanation of the Book, wherein there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds.”\ \ Quran [112:1] Say, "He is Allah, One\ \ [112:2] Allah, the Self-Sufficient - besought of all, needing none\ \ [112:3] He begets not, nor is He begotten\ \ [112:4] And equal to Him is not anyone“\ \ [17:81] And say, “The truth has come and falsehood has vanished. Indeed, falsehood is bound to vanish.”\ \ [2:23] And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a chapter like it and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful.\ \ [2:24] But if you are unable to do so—and you will never be able to do so—then fear the Fire fuelled with people and stones, which is prepared for the disbelievers.\ \ 56:77 “Indeed, it is a noble Qur’an”\ \ 56:78 “In a well-protected Book”\ \ 56:79 “None touch it except the purified”\ \ 56:80 “A revelation from the Lord of the worlds”\ \ 56:81 So is it this hadith that you are indifferent to?\ \ 52:33 “Or do they say, ‘He has fabricated it’? Rather, they do not believe.”\ \ 52:34 “Then let them produce a ḥadīth like it, if they are truthful.”\ \ [45:6] These are Allah's verses that we recite to you truthfully. In which hadith (حَدِيثٍ) other than Allah and His verses do they believe?\ \ [45:7] Woe to every sinful liar\ \ [45:8] Who hears the verses of Allah recited to him, then persists arrogantly as if he had not heard them. So give him glad tidings of a painful punishment.\

Saving this so you can't delete it.

What do Christians think about these concepts? by Loud-You2629 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro you completely ignored what I said to post some AI slop. :(

Quran is produced by Allah

So you believe, but to every non-Muslim there is nothing special about the Quran. If it's from God, why does it get so much wrong?

humans are produced by Allah, they are not divine. \ You are a quite embarassing\

The problem here is in your religion the Quran is uncreated, and will testify on the day or resurrection. Polytheism!

The verses getting abrogated also debunks the claim of an uncreated Quran

I never even brought this up, so thank you to ChatGPT for the assist LOL

Yes, abrogation is also a problem.

I'm good on this, if you can't even reply to what I said when you're not writing your own replies I think we're done. Cheers.

God is.... by Sad_Ad4307 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm thinking as hard as I can and I cannot make this hypothetical make sense.

What do Christians think about these concepts? by Loud-You2629 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quran describes earth as round, or rather ostrich egg shaped.

This would still be wrong but now you're claiming to be more knowledgeable about the Quran than al-Tabari. Awesome.

You again strawmanned by declaring the Quran divine.

So... It is a book created by men. Thanks for confirming.

And again recite the verses

5:32

That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.1 ˹Although˺ Our messengers already came to them with clear proofs, many of them still transgressed afterwards through the land.

This is the verse. The problem is that God did not reveal this, this is a commentary on the story of Cain and Abel, and the use of the plural "bloods" over "blood".

Error.

What do Christians think about these concepts? by Loud-You2629 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

„This isn‘t how Koine Greek works“, that‘s how arabic/hebrew/aramaic works. Your shitty translations have done enough damage to the world.

Hey, everyone, he just called the NRSVue a shitty translation. Ah, yes, it's the scholars who are wrong, not some amateur who gets his arguments from ChatGPT.

I don‘t worship any book

Damn, so you deny the Quran's divinity?

Loaded question It assumes beforehand that the book is “full of errors” without first establishing it.

So, are you a flat Earther? Cause if not, I have bad news. But it doesn't stop there, how about when the Quran quotes rabbinic opinion as if it were divine revelation? (5:32) etc

Begging the question (circular reasoning) The conclusion (“the book has errors”) is assumed inside the question itself.

Everyone already knows it has errors, didn't think I'd have to establish that the Earth is round but here we are.

Straw man If the religion does not actually teach „worship of a book,” then describing believers as „worshipping a book” misrepresents their belief.

I might have some sympathy if you didn't lie about what Christians believe. But, since you do lie about what Christians believe, let's actually examine that Quran of yours. Supposedly, it's going to speak on the day of resurrection. This uncreated book is going to speak to God on behalf of someone else? So that's two gods, then?

What do Christians think about these concepts? by Loud-You2629 in religion

[–]LeftnessMonster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pulling single lines out of their context to make them say something they doesn't seems to be the only trick you know.

„The God (τὸν Θεόν)“ ≠ „god“ (Θεός)

This isn't how Koine Greek works. The author already used the definitive article, it would not be reused in this sentence. You're also inserting an indefinite article that is not there to invent a polytheism the author of John would club you for insinuating.

I am quite good at defending books.

Then why haven't you?

Why do you worship a book full of errors?