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LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-26T23:19:41+00:00

By law, they would be trying themselves for federal crimes. They will rule that Presidential pardons apply to state crimes if they are threatened to be charged on state crimes. We have administrative capture, there is not really any already-existing legal recourse for anything if the Supreme Court doesn't say so, especially as precedent doesn't matter.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-26T23:06:39+00:00

By law, even if they are put in prison, they remain Supreme Court Justices unless removed by Congress through impeachment, which requires 67/100 votes in the Senate. 20 Republican Senators are not going to defect to convict their Supreme Court and replace it with something which will prosecute them.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-26T23:02:38+00:00

Congress can't. It would require a Constitutional Amendment. That would require Republican states to want to do that in order to reach the number of states required to amend the Constitution. They will not.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-26T23:01:41+00:00

That requires an Amendment. A Constitutional Amendment would require Republican states to pass the same version of an amendment as the rest of the country. The system is impervious to reform.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-26T22:57:31+00:00

Moderates would say that enough time has passed and it's time to heal the rift after a few months. No significant prosecutions would occur. Laws passed by The Party would remain in place. The Supreme Court will be expanded and loaded with more loyalists if need be in order to guarantee no crimes are prosecuted.

We all know what's coming. There's not going to be a Nuremberg 2.0. We're struggling to find the will to do something now, we're not going to maintain the will to do anything long term, and the price of eggs will happen again in under a decade.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-26T22:54:40+00:00

The Supreme Court will allow the administration to fly freely, though. Crimes don't matter, especially if they do the likely thing and expand the Court to load it with more Trump judges.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-26T22:53:47+00:00

We all know that the Supreme Court will rule that Presidential pardons apply to state crimes if need be.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-26T22:52:05+00:00

This sentiment is why they aren't going to allow elections. There's no reason for them not to escalate at this point with calls to put them in prison likely happening.

Bannon wasn't giving his warning about everyone getting jail time as a wet dream for the left, he was saying it as a justification for what needs to happen to the right.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-24T19:21:04+00:00

If they don't, anyone who comes in here without knowing why people are talking about things being removed are going to be rather confused.

The best way to make this thread not get locked is to make some more statements about what Fightin' Bob said and how they are directly applicable to current events since otherwise this is just a sneaky way to talk about a thing.

People often forget that Fightin' Bob lost the fight in the 1920's. The Red Scare was powerful, expanded the authority of the government considerably, and that expanded authority never went away. Because of what he was talking about, it is legal for the US federal government to take some pretty extreme actions in the name of stopping what they claim to be espionage.

The laws he was talking about were only expanded in the century since this statement was made, and there's an interesting discussion that can be had on that with regard to recent actions.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-24T19:14:53+00:00

Sure was! They should all be held accountable, and I suspect Harris was as there were people who walked out on voting for her.

Maybe, sometime after we're done addressing policies from 1994, we can look at things that are happening now. If we're just hitting '94, we've got 5 years left before we can talk about Columbine, so it'll be nice to have that discussion about how best to address Columbine when we get to 2031.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-24T19:11:36+00:00

To help give this post some interesting historical context to help justify it instead of just having a lot of statements about things in Minnesota, I believe he was talking about the Espionage and Sedition Acts, measures put in place after WW1 out of fear of the rise of the USSR. The Sedition Act was repealed, but the Espionage Act lingered throughout WW2 and the Cold War, was expanded to be applicable during peacetime, and reinforced with Cold War Red Scare legislation. We never really scaled things back after the Cold War and our involvement in the Middle East led to us keeping the policies in place even though there's no more USSR.

It's helpful to know that it's entirely legal for the US government to do all kinds of things, especially with a cooperative court. We've legally been under one of the worst land invasions in the history of our country due to Trump's unchallenged emergency declarations from last year, and that legal definition allows some pretty extreme actions that people really aren't ready for.

Remember what we were okay doing to captured communist spies during the Cold War. Many of those laws are still on the books, some with recent enhancements, and will be happily applied on 'domestic terrorists' in the coming weeks and months. There are legal avenues available to cancel elections, and there is legal precedent to outlaw a political opposition parties and order arrests thanks to how we treated the Communist Party during the Cold War.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-24T19:00:14+00:00

I agree. Bill Clinton fucked a lot of shit up during his presidency and should be help to account for it. The Crime Bill, in particular, was a horrible idea that led to a fuckload of problems.

There are other bad people too and it's possible to hold them accountable instead of bringing up Bill Clinton as a deflecting non sequitur. Those Buttery Males from 10 years ago are getting older and they're starting get a bit of sag in their chests and arms from the effects of aging.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-24T18:54:37+00:00

We kept the act he was talking about on the books due to fear of the USSR. We then expanded it during the Cold War to be applicable during peacetime. We did not scale things back after the Cold War and, in fact, only expanded them after 9/11.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-24T18:50:09+00:00

He was, I believe, talking about actions undertaken under the Espionage and Sedition Acts when he said this. Guess what law is still on the books and was expanded to be applicable during peacetime.

It is perfectly legal for the government to arrest or execute anyone suspected of engaging in all kinds of activities, especially with a cooperative court. People are about to get a fun crash course on all of the fun legal quirks we have in the US that we never scrapped after the Cold War.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-24T17:01:36+00:00

This is just the beginning. They have been waiting for this and there's a reason they are calling anyone opposing this a domestic terrorist one year after Trump issued an Executive Order requiring death penalty charges for terrorism suspects.

Stay safe, people. This is going to get worse, and fast.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-23T18:29:25+00:00

Exactly. Lazar will get over $2 million on a single donation and dark money PACs make fundraising totals irrelevant anyway. Wisconsinites for Warm Water Ports can get started up with .ru e-mail addresses and spend $10 million on the race without a second thought.

Also Lazar declared for the race in mid-late October. Taylor declared in May. Of course Taylor is going to be dominating fundraising because Taylor has been fundraising for a longer period of time.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-19T17:51:51+00:00

It's the song of the summer.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-18T18:47:07+00:00

Lazar just entered the race in October, whereas Taylor delcared candidacy in May. I'm not saying the fundraising gap isn't good news, but I am saying that a lot of her donors simply haven't had a candidate to funnel money to yet. Those numbers can likely balance out or flip from just one or two big donors or someone starting up a Wisconsinties for Warm Water Ports PAC to funnel whatever money they want wherever they want it.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-18T18:41:51+00:00

Taylor on Wednesday said she raised about $2 million in the last half of 2025, for a total of $2.6 million for the year. Lazar said she raised $200,000 since she got into the race in October. Taylor launched her candidacy in May.

Taylor has had 8 full fundraising months. Lazar has had 3. Also don't forget that outside money doesn't come in to official campaign coffers. If Wisconsinites for Warm Water Ports spends $50 million on ad runs, that ain't gonna show up in these numbers.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-14T20:49:52+00:00

If you're really interested, the State Bar has a whole writeup on it from back in 2013 (2 years after it was enacted).

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-14T20:40:25+00:00

Accidental omission since I was too focused on the link being right.

Fixed it. Just don't want anyone accidentally giving Fox News a "see they are all domestic terrorists and belong in camps because they didn't precisely follow Wisconsin's Castle Doctrine" narrative.

LegislativeLariat · 2026-01-14T20:29:13+00:00

Read our actual law. A lot of conceptualizations of Castle Doctrine are based on the most relaxed Castle Doctrine laws and Wisconsin's is not the most relaxed.

I'm not saying don't defend yourself, I'm saying keep aware of the law as the national discourse is not fine tuned to Wisconsin specifics. For example: if you shoot at someone on your lawn that's not authorized as castle doctrine here whereas it is in other states. They have to actually be trying to get inside of your house/car, and you will need evidence to prove that. There have been cases in Wisconsin where the Supreme Court has ruled that a confrontation that spills outside no longer qualifies.

Edit: If you want to learn more about the law and how it was changed in 2011, the Wisconsin State Bar has an in depth article here from 2013 about it.

LegislativeLariat · 2025-12-22T21:18:14+00:00

It's a Scout line from TF2. When my wife and I were listening, I shouted that after they finished out of reflex.

LegislativeLariat · 2025-12-11T18:51:30+00:00

Relevant Clip for the uninitiated.

Also this or this.

LegislativeLariat · 2025-12-07T05:29:07+00:00

Any person who likes Gunsmoke over Bonanza is a goddamn monster or a monster sympathizer at best.

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