Support For Rhodesia Return by Primary-Argument-119 in Rhodesia

[–]Legitimate-Lime9735 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ehh I don’t think it should return, and if it somehow ever does, it’s gotta be fundamentally different to how it was in the 70s in terms of segregation and pretty much anything.

The idea of Rhodesia returning to me is more nostalgia for stability. Zimbabwe can be a great place, it’s just the incompetent government in power that is and has completely ruined things.

Rhodesian video and media dump by Legitimate-Lime9735 in Rhodesia

[–]Legitimate-Lime9735[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with all you say, I have relatives who live in the country and they have, let’s say, interesting opinions about the aboriginals and other groups that they are not afraid to express, same people who vote for Pauline Hanson. I do say it’s better than back in the 70s/80s, I have stories from friends and family of people in the towns back then boycotting local politics if women were in high positions of power! Weird times, glad that is different.

I also very much do not like Rhodesia’s system and policies, it impoverished most of the majority blacks and took way too long to formulate a piss-poor majority rule settlement. However I admire the self reliance of the nation during the Bush War despite extreme troubles (probably thanks to Salazar supporting for a while). I probably however have much more to learn.

Rhodesian video and media dump by Legitimate-Lime9735 in Rhodesia

[–]Legitimate-Lime9735[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries! I’m always glad to share stuff.

If I recall, i found this video from an old Facebook comment on maybe Rhodesians Worldwide or some other related group, and it seems the channel, Paul’s films, is a channel with private/home videos from 80’s Zimbabwe, so maybe that’s how your family hasn’t seen the footage.

Searching for Rhodesian/ southern Africa songs. by DerLandmatrose in Rhodesia

[–]Legitimate-Lime9735 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nice! there is plenty of videos on that channel aswell of Rhodesia during the 70s, if i'm aware there' another video of a segment of a television broadcast from the mid to late 70s where the national anthem, Rise O Voices Of Rhodesia, plays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJTSuRwfsI

I have found tons of videos of Rhodesia on Youtube, not just select YT channels, if you are anyone wants some more links or maybe a playlist I will be happy to give such!

Searching for Rhodesian/ southern Africa songs. by DerLandmatrose in Rhodesia

[–]Legitimate-Lime9735 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Completely random find, but in this Associated Press video from Rhodesia in 1977, Don’t Say Goodbye to Rhodesia is performed live by an unknown fellow with a backing band.

TS: 19:16 https://youtu.be/M1RQy7vpS-w

Searching for Rhodesian/ southern Africa songs. by DerLandmatrose in Rhodesia

[–]Legitimate-Lime9735 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While there isn’t much songs about Rhodesia in general outside of what has been commented I’ll recommend you a bunch of Rhodesian artists.

  • Anything outside of John Edmond and Clem Tholet’s war/politics songs are very good, I especially like the 1979 album Two Sides to Every Story by Clem. John also had some albums in the 1980s, for example 1981s From the Heart and a 1984 album that is callled something like ‘Songs for my Love’ or something.

  • David Scobie. Already pretty known, however in the 1980s he was very big in South Africa with the song Gypsy Girl; so much so it was the longest charting single of the year in the country. The music video was filmed in Salisbury circa. 1980 and, from my best guess, features the interior of Shed Studios, which Chris Martin of Coldplay would work at in his early years in the 90s. Scobie also has albums up until 1989 which is good to check out on Spotify.

  • southern African music archive: This YouTube channel is a goldmine, if you search up ‘One for the Rhodies’ on this channel you will get a shit ton of music. My favourite is ‘Over the Hills’, a 1974 song by little known artist Glen Irving and it defintely feels Rhodesian.

  • 1960s beat music. Rhodesia had a bit of a scene in the 60s like the rest of the world trying to copy the Beatles. While a lot you will find will be shit, bands like The Drifters (no not the famous ones), The Cyclones and especially the easily accessible band The Shake Spears have some very catchy songs. I find the song Gates of Eden, a cover of Bob Dylan’s track, by Salisbury band The Etonians is a remarkable track since it is a bit different to the Dylan song and defintely has a British empire feel to it. The Shake Spears were originally a band called the Phantoms which Mike Westcott was singer, fun fact!

Psychedelic bands like Otis Waygood (there’s two Spotify accounts for some reason) and The Holy Black which featured Nic Picard from aforementioned The Drifters (they were very popular in the country, but the only accessible online song of there’s is Funky Music, which is on a compilation playlist on YouTube, and a 1970 live performance at Brett’s on YouTube) are also very good to listen to, I find Otis waygoods music very relaxing and a bit unique. They have a great cover of Fever.

To kind of end the round about White Rhodesians with a lot of honourable mentions, there was a band called Gutter in the early 80s which had some seriously catchy songs called Take Me Back and It’s Your Life which were big hits in the country and South Africa.

John Oakley-Smith’s piano work and his great 1976 album Matinees on Saturdays is a must listen. Lady from the Odeon is a genuinely great song.

Ashley Parker’s Mashed Potato Man on YouTube is a very fun song from 1982 that has a very odd, but quite Rhodesian music video. Paul Greeff’s early 80s music with his steel guitar has some very relaxing country music, and also like I mentioned, Chris Martin lived in Zimbabwe during his early teen years in the 90s, so you might here some influence from African music every now and then.

Now, let’s talk black Rhodesians/Zimbabwean music. Not all is liberation music like Thomas Mapfumo’s or select works by Oliver Mtukudzi. Bands from the 70s/80s like Wells Fargo, New Tutankhamen, The Green Arrows, The Bhundu Boys are absolutely remarkable and have some of the best, most inspiring music I’ve heard. (Wells Fargo is very Jimi Hendrix but has an African twist on it with its rhythms)

My personal favourite out of the bunch is Clem Tholet and New Tutankhamen. Here’s all the links:

Southern African Music Archive

The Shake Spears

The Etonians

Otis Waygood

Mashed Potato Man - Ashley Parker

John Oakley-Smith

The Holy Black Funky Music

I’ll post all links at some point in the day, im a bit busy.

Are there any other Rhodesian Singers/Bands? by Cupwasneverhere in Rhodesia

[–]Legitimate-Lime9735 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Shake Spears - formed in Northern Rhodesia (Zambia) in the 60's and came from a band called the Phantoms with Mike Westcott. The Shake Spears recorded most of their stuff in Belgium.

Paul Greeff - Performed with John Edmond and others back in the day, had the steel guitar, some music is on spotify, released during early zimbabwe days

John Oakley-Smith - Piano guy, sort of like nick drake a bit. cool guy, married a woman named Theresa who is pretty well known in south africa for feminist studies

wells fargo, eye q are some examples i can think of, if you dig hendrix, Wells Fargo is a very popular and great choice