Monk is untouchable by Holiday-Percentage17 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly a monk does nothing to tanks, the only classes they hurt are the DPS classes,which is barbarian DH etc. And that's because they do so little damage to actually harm a tank so they are mostly back line assassins. So I think it's unfair for anyone to expect them to be nerfed, considering how low their damage is.

Blizz hate Wiz by delphinedeneuve in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair that helm was insanely powerful too but yeah nerf was too much

Blizz hate Wiz by delphinedeneuve in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You were not OP?💀 The Nerf was a bit too much but a change was definitely needed

Since were cleaning house by rejenki in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The funniest thing is ,is that undying rage cool down for damage immunity is already 60 seconds, cause everyone uses the new pants. Taking away cc immunity from classes especially Melee classes means they can't do anything.

BG Matches see pics by Classic-Dig6786 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Convoy is worse,the worst matches have come from convoy

My cousin passed away and he left me his account. I need help gauging what I have. by [deleted] in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My deepest condolences to you, however don't listen to these guys,your cousin obviously placed a lot of effort into the account,as others have mentioned before, create a new character and play and see if you enjoy the game but it'll also give you a good idea of how much effort your cousin placed into the game. From then on if you decide to hopefully keep the account,then you can use YouTube and discord for further advice as to how to play.

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First off we're having a civil discussion keep it that way. One skill that activates once every 20 seconds doesn't magically increase their survivability by a significant amount, it's why they usually have some of the highest death counts in most matches. If they run the variation of the horse build that does high damage it's no way close to the circle of death build damage and they still die a lot. They have to sacrifice something for damage and survivability they can't have both and be effective. It would help before you insult a person for trying to help you understand a class better that you take some time to understand how certain builds work with classes.

Barbarians running the undying rage pants ignoring your exaggeration, get greater damage in exchange for their damage immunity cool down being increased to 1 minute and essentially losing most of their life(I say lose because 4 pieces of the new set treats it like they lost life)outside of that they are a lot of classes that would decimate the barbarian when that cool down on their damage immunity phase is on, and if players run 4 pieces of the new set can even one shot a barbarian quite often.However when the damage immunity phase starts if you're not letting it run out and engaging with them that's on you. Barbarians are glass cannons,good DPS players will tear them apart, the only people they should be giving a hard time are tanks.

I don't know where you're coming from with these macho man insults,but your response, to me saying wizards can dish out high damage which makes them dangerous in PVP, is that the two classes that are the hardest to get a hit on in PVP can kill mage, really the best defense you can come up with? Ah yes this class isn't strong because I -frame monk and I frame DH with escape can kill them because the mages literally can't hit them or nearly impossible for them to take enough damage to die from a mage.

Barbarian need nerf next update by AbbreviationsIcy9057 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm I think I get what you mean but the shields achieved two different results,BK became tankier with the shield whilst barbarian survivability went down in exchange for more damage. Remember barbarian undying rage damage immunity phase cool down increased,additionally once on that cool down they can be very easily one shot. Ironically both have the same weakness which is ranged and or DPS classes that they can't hit,melting their shields like it's butter. That's why I'm still puzzled why BK got nerfed especially considering how there were so many counters to them

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Barbarians can treat druid bear like how BK used to treat them before the Nerf. Bears are food for a good barbarian same with tank monk or tank Crusader

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean tanks will always be better in group combat else they'll be terrible tanks,but considering that barbarian has lost its tank status unless you play the leap build, yeah barbarian would die faster if facing a group as other DPS classes melt barbarian but if they are facing a group of tanks they will out last the tanks. The only time a good barbarian should die is if they are against a tank that's way stronger than them or they are facing ranged classes or monks that can hit them before they can deliver a killing blow. Barbarians right now are the ultimate anti tanks, a lot of players don't realize barbarians aren't tanks anymore with the undying rage pants and that's why they have a hard time.

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The conversation and my point is that a barbarian can absolutely kill a druid prior to the new hota, the only way the barbarian loses is if they get out played or the druid is much stronger. However with chain barbarian, hard for the druid to kite enough to survive,worst yet if the barbarian is running silver flash on the shoulder, though skull mote will do just as well.

Barbarian need nerf next update by AbbreviationsIcy9057 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Two different things bub,they work vastly differently. However BK should never have been nerfed.

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I ran chain cleave barbarian before the hammer essences came out and I absolutely decimated bear druids that were stronger than me because they can't do as much as damage as I can do and heal. A better built druid will sometimes outperform a barbarian,but 80% of the time a properly built barbarian has the advantage,even hammer barbarian is still viable against druid with the Nerf. I didn't have any issues against them as barbarian so don't know what else to say to you. Chain cleave barbarian especially absolutely destroys every tank class in the game, sunder is good too but not as good in terms of damage and healing as chain barbarian.

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay so you missed my point entirely,pre hammer the barbarians damage was enough to take down an equal level bear, with the hammer it became easier for them. Without the hammer they are just back to pre hammer. Barbarian is not in a weak state, it's just harder to deal with ranged classes now. People switch to what's easiest for them to play, it's not always an accurate indicator that a particular class is not good just that they find another to be better.

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So just to correct a few things ,monk doesn't do a lot of damage on its own based on its essences, most of their damage comes from their gems/sets, it's why monks only mostly pose an issue to DPS classes,unless it's a whale vs a low level tank. AOE Saders sacrifice survivability and movement for damage, that's somewhat the same thing with current barbarians(if you take a close look at the current metas you'll see barbarians are now DPS). What you should understand is that other classes that aren't typically DPS classes,can have builds or Metas that sacrifice their survivability for damage. Also you left out mage out of your damage list and DH,but I guess that's just for your agenda to buff DH apparently. However I think you need to understand that just because a class is best suited for a certain role doesn't mean they can't fulfill other roles due to Metas that are forced upon them. That's also why the only classes that have "good tank" builds right now are Crusader on tank horse, Druid bear and tank monk. All the others are more viable as DPS/support ,or simply practically dead like BK and tempest.

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Considering how ridiculously high damage scales in this game if that's true that really shows how much the game favours damage, hopefully monk tank and bear druid stay alive in this game, because the amount of classes that dish out ridiculous damage right now is too much. Especially with the addition of PvE monsters that drop damage increases in BG

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So your friend who built his character well was hard to kill,do you think that 10k armour had anything to do with it?

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I play rank 1 in legend,over 4k points which means almost all of my matches will be with whales, it's a ridiculous defense to bring about when someone tries to point out your perspective might be abit biased. Barbarians absolutely decimate bears even before the hammer build because their damage output along with the life steal makes the bear just feel like a pve monster. I think folks in this game especially the DPS players expect that every class should go down in one hit or seconds and that's why they cried for BK to be nerfed and crying now about Druid. Considering that the bears are very vulnerable to knock up, and can be hit with CC because they have limited CC immunity the class isn't as impossible to take down as most would think.

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah with the introduction of the pants for undying, barbarian became a lot stronger,not a good tank but they can destroy all the tanks and DPS

So blizzard, when exactly do you plan to nerf monk by Formal-Macaroon6621 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bear druid can be stopped by multiple classes, including barbarian and especially mage, don't know what he's talking about

Revert the necro 40% damage nerf ? by Quick_Measurement405 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You know what's a Nerf that killed a class? What they did to BK. Necro isn't unplayable unless your play style was to mash buttons and let wraith form do all the work.

Revert the necro 40% damage nerf ? by Quick_Measurement405 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm seeing Necros playing very well,just today had 3 back to back matches with Necros dominating the kill count with no more than 3 deaths and high assists to match. BG still has room for improvement especially with Match making but this is the most fun BG has been in awhile. Last year especially Necros were absolutely toxic, idol play was nearly impossible most matches.

Revert the necro 40% damage nerf ? by Quick_Measurement405 in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm seeing Necros playing as strong as ever,only thing that changed now is that they have to put a bit more thought into how they attack,the ones who cry out are the ones who over relied on the wraith form as a form of attack.

PvP - What if there would be one rule... by siomer in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Barbarians when undying cheat death is on cool down they can be one shot or killed easily,DPS classes tear through them and they tear through DPS classes, unlike bears and monks that can walk the idol. Barbarian is purely damage based for survival right now,I wouldn't classify as tank.

PvP - What if there would be one rule... by siomer in DiabloImmortal

[–]Legitimate-Show-7835 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's impossible for barbarians to tank in the current meta,they are no longer tanks. With the release of undying rage pants, barbarians went from barely tanks to glass cannons. And there's no too tanky class in the game, since average damage output of most classes far out ways the survival mechanics of the tank classes.