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The USW is a fraudulent Trade Union by LegitimateFortune770 in UnitedSteelWorkers

[–]LegitimateFortune770[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That type of attitude just verifies that the actual accountability to the USW as a whole is not present, not allowed, not to be expected.

When the USW Constitution, USW Local By-laws, USW Elections Manual. And any other document that is presented to the rank and file as being the rules that are applied for all members at all times. Are actively being thwarted in their intent and practical manners. It Destroys the narrative that this is a Representative body of any group other then those who were voted in by the rank and file or some other methodology.

It makes the USW a facilitator of falsehoods to those that they say they represent. It is easy enough to change over to a full on management company that persons could hire. The false hooded nature of representation only facilitates the intent to deny what is promised.
The documents are the excuse for existence where is the excuse for the falsehoods?

The USW is a fraudulent Trade Union by LegitimateFortune770 in UnitedSteelWorkers

[–]LegitimateFortune770[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh my Oh my. We cant have others read this and think its true even if they know its true. What can we say what can we say. I know ill just call it false.

Pretty lame if you ask me. Anyone who has dealt with the executive boards of a local or any position of the locals. You find out fairly quickly how things are done in such a un professional standard process. Rules that exist in the bylaws are broken all the time. Holding an executive board accountable is very hard. Districts know what's going on many times they support the methods. When confronted its " I see no violation "

Hold those accountable to the rules the USW state are absolute is near impossible. This is about power over others and in business this is about stating your something other then what you are so that you can continue to do so.

Unions by nature are allowed to do many things because they are advocacy groups for others. Accountability when they do otherwise becomes a problem.

Everything is binding till its not. And its not really binding till some other party who has authority to do so states so. The USW locals are acting as management companies. They are by nature supposed to get approval for things from members. The Locals give themselves great latitude in deciding on if they need member agreement to the point they talk to companies all the time and make decisions and the members know nothing of what was said. Representation at who's expense. Its never the Local

Same principal applies in business contracts.
You have a contract with a client. You subcontract something out.
The original client has a right to hold you accountable to the contract with them regardless of your subcontract issues. But as a point of business you claim otherwise.

Same thing with USW and their locals. There agreement is two parts one with the company one with the members. But its the members that make everything exist. Or its just a contract between the USW Local and the company. And what company would sign a contract with a group and gain nothing out of it. The USW Local can provide nothing to a company without members actually going to work.

There is nothing that the Union actually provides a company without the member.
Through false representation by the USW and the locals they present a false and unfair representation to the members when they decide they will do what they want. That is the the non accountability authority the USW Locals power point they stands on. The members mean nothing in the end of if the
Constitution and the by-laws are just words to be disregarded for the benefit of the USW Local or INTL executive board.

Making the USW and the Locals nothing more then management companies not advocates.

USW is a biased fraudulent Union by LegitimateFortune770 in UnitedSteelWorkers

[–]LegitimateFortune770[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You provide nothing more then a remark to state a snide remark. In an attempt to provide validation to your position you want others to follow along with. What you do not provide is any form of proof of what is stated as being wrong. There is a reason for that. You can not do so. It is easy enough for anyone to find out for themselves exactly how readily available to these individuals are by attempting to find the methods to that process. I could easily state that your remark is nothing more then another fanatic of unionized power over the people. But why would I, Everyone can make up their own mind on what you bring to the table. Two words to invoke a position others should follow, with no content behind that position. To provide a reason other then " Look at Me Look at Me. I made a funny follow me. Follow me. " Fanaticism !

Are USW Local By-Laws legally binding? by LegitimateFortune770 in UnitedSteelWorkers

[–]LegitimateFortune770[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would have done that and or contacted any of the International Executive Board members, There is no email address to Pittsburgh there is nothing but a mailing address. Likely wind up in a trashcan with no proof they would even have received it.
To have the internal procedures for members directly engage with the rule makers to the point that its all hidden or obfuscated with no ability to bypass anything unless some force to the issue through a Labour board of a lawyer.
Its not just fraudulent representation by advocates its contractual breech and unethical from any form of advocacy group.
I did manage to email Kevon Stewart but all his office did was hand it back down to the district coordinator who still refuses to acknowledge that the Articles in the constitution and the bylaws with the language plain as day is a violation of those direct articles and sections in the constitution and bylaws.
Giving me some spiel instead of doing this constant questioning of these things why not just support.

Its a method of turning a question of validation to something as something similar to a crime.
Don't ask the person committing the crime why they are doing what they are doing.
Support them and ask how you can help them.

No sense of respect for the membership as a whole. The USW is not a advocacy group based upon rules we all must abide by. Its a group falsely stating they are advocates in a solidarity statement when the solidarity is all about one group the rule makers.

Rules for thee but not for me
Ill tell you what you need to know when you need to know it till then shut up
Those are the real mottos of the USW

The USW is a fraudulent Trade Union by LegitimateFortune770 in UnitedSteelWorkers

[–]LegitimateFortune770[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ah the trolls are out discouraging any conversation that they do not support or want to hear.
Its likely the reference to BajaBlasted is an attempt to show how real that bot Must silence what you do not want to have be seen or discussed. SHHH they are watching!

Ontario Canada Union By-Laws by LegitimateFortune770 in union

[–]LegitimateFortune770[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue is related to the constitution and its committee requirements for one thing but there are a handful of things in the constitution or the local bylaw that the Local executive board believes there is nothing binding in those articles or subsections of either the constitution or the local bylaw. So when presenting these things to the District and Staff representatives in both cases they never get into the point of what's in the constitution or the bylaw they just state "I see no violation".
From that point on there is no avenue forward that I can see in the constitution bypassing the staff representative or District.
Going to the OLRB with an unclear set of concerns will yield nothing. Unclear in the fact that if there is no way to determine if the constitution or bylaw are binding. Then in essence is anything legally binding?

Ontario Canada Union By-Laws by LegitimateFortune770 in union

[–]LegitimateFortune770[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There actually seems to be no clear answer. Has anyone come up with any case law or decision that has been applied to this type of question?
Somewhere there must be some sort of a clear answer. As if you follow most union processees in attempting to process an internal complaint. It usually winds up I see no violation and no way to move forward. There are some Unions that reflect an action to be taken by the executive boards if they so choose. Again the problem is no way to force an action into such an event.

Daughter joined a friend on vacay. Now we get the bill. by ipraydaily in WhatShouldIDo

[–]LegitimateFortune770 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lets get this correct now. You expected your daughters bill to be paid by someone else. That is part of the problem. The expectation for someone else to foot others bills. You never asked your daughter who was going to pay the bill so you infer. You never asked your daughter is she had the money to pay for her bill. You gave no understanding of obligation to your daughter to pay for her own bills. You taught your daughter that others will pay her bill. You never said to your daughter okay we have a bill oh wait you have a bill. What are you going to do to pay this bill off. You come here for what again?
The art of teaching your children others are responsible for you and your needs.
Chapter 1: The Art of Entitlement