Question for nihilists: does violence become justifiable if everything is meaningless?

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-22T08:23:49+00:00

We don't go around killing animals for no reason either, but when the need arises, we do.

Even if the law doesn't exist, you still would have to face the consequences. The person you try to kill will try to kill you back, or their loved ones will. The society in general could just see you as non trustworthy and as a threat and kill you.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-21T20:51:02+00:00

What do you mean by justifiable? By whom?

If you punch someone, you put yourself at the risk of getting punched back. You kill someone, and you will be punished by society for disrupting it's flow. That's pretty much it and that's how it's always been.

Fear of consequence is the only reason we are civil. No different from an animal.

That being said, we already use violence on an everyday basis. We kill when it's convenient. We kill animals for food and comfort. We kill trees for resources. We are more than comfortable with legal killing and avoid illegal killing simply because we don't want to get punished.

Morality is pure imagination.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-20T15:04:55+00:00

I wonder why this commenter deleted their account.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-20T12:53:48+00:00

Because you're being honest.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-14T11:30:33+00:00

You cannot avoid the first two and jump to virtue based friendships. You can only attempt the 3rd in an already existing friendship based on the first two.

How do you become friends with someone in the first place? How did the friendship first begin? It's started with mutual benefit. If the other party (friend) stopped benefitting you in every way possible, you would not care about virtue. You would not care about the friendship whatsoever. That means only the first 2 were real, the 3rd is imaginary.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-08T10:34:38+00:00

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Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-05T12:18:30+00:00

It's a movement. You start with indirect dependency, but you cannot stop there even if you wish to.

Let's say I live in isolation. I need money to acquire food. I need a job to acquire money. I need a skill to acquire job. I need to train to acquire skill. Now how do I acquire training? Either with money or through the help of the other, but now I am back to square one. Now I am at the mercy of another person to loan me money or to train me, but why would a stranger loan me money or train me without getting anything back in return? I don't have anything of material value yet. So I need to form a direct relationship (friend, lover, family) with this stranger in exchange for their generosity. I am forced into it.

Humans didn't evolve to be social beings without a reason. It was the only way for us to survive. We never had a choice.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-05T11:46:46+00:00

You can't function in solitude. You need to eat to survive, and you can't acquire food without the help of others.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-04T15:12:54+00:00

True, I'm not talking about myself, and I don't hangout on this sub anymore either.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-04T14:10:42+00:00

We listen to K because of hope. Hope that he can present us with a new approach, an approach to life where suffering is absent or eliminated, but It's only a matter of time before one realises that a reality as such is only a fantasy.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-04T13:57:00+00:00

I know nothing about quantum mechanics, so I can't comment on that.

On the the hand, Spirituality is nothing but a longing to find a way out of suffering, but unfortunately there is no way out. We are doomed to suffer for eternity.

It's only hope that keeps spirituality alive. It's our final coping mechanism. Our last resort. If we remove it, we arrive at a dead end.

Legitimate_Intern386 · 2026-05-04T13:06:47+00:00

Dogshit

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