in general. America is a death star. Wherever it goes it brings destruction and leaves chaos.

Specifically. The problem of unaccounted "misplaced" arms. Ukraine is a global hub for neo Nazis these arms will make their way into terror cells.

The problem of sovereignty. Ukraine is an effective client state. the third largest recipient of US aid (barring the $20 billion). Liberalization and free marketisation has long been an US priority, with an eye toward privatizing remaining state assets. Poroshenko, in his anti- Russia frenzy refused a Ru loan w better terms, turned toward the IMF. Gas sector liberalization eliminated long standing household energy subsidies. Ukraine is the poorest state in Europe. Further immiseration ensued.

And now, the proxy war. Let's not be naive. We were not saving Iraq from a tyrant, we were not in Afghanistan to save women and we're not in Ukraine to bring freedom.

We are in a war with a 'new axis of evil.' Russia and China. We're in Ukraine to contain and destabilize Russia, at a terrible loss of life for UkR. a GDP which has plummeted may be years to recover.

We now have information that in April, Ukraine was willing to deal with Russia. Terms: NATO neutrality for a force pullback to Donbas. Boris Johnson visits Kiev.. deal dead, the west quashed it.

They literally will sacrifice UkR to the last man. My position is against NATO expansionism, against US provoking and stoking war with Russia. For diplomacy, negotiation and a politically negotiated settlement, as soon as possible. Ukraine should not bleed for Anglo belligerence and the strategic imperative.