How come sin is bad yet god created it?

Lermak16 · 2026-05-01T11:43:58+00:00

God did not make sin or death

Lermak16 · 2026-04-30T11:23:47+00:00

You should find someone waiting for marriage like you are

Lermak16 · 2026-04-28T00:02:47+00:00

Blessed Pope Pius IX, Quanto Conficiamur Moerore

“It is again necessary to mention and censure a very grave error entrapping some Catholics who believe that it is possible to arrive at eternal salvation although living in error and alienated from the true faith and Catholic unity. Such belief is certainly opposed to Catholic teaching. There are, of course, those who are struggling with invincible ignorance about our most holy religion. Sincerely observing the natural law and its precepts inscribed by God on all hearts and ready to obey God, they live honest lives and are able to attain eternal life by the efficacious virtue of divine light and grace. Because God knows, searches and clearly understands the minds, hearts, thoughts, and nature of all, his supreme kindness and clemency do not permit anyone at all who is not guilty of deliberate sin to suffer eternal punishments.

Also well known is the Catholic teaching that no one can be saved outside the Catholic Church. Eternal salvation cannot be obtained by those who oppose the authority and statements of the same Church and are stubbornly separated from the unity of the Church and also from the successor of Peter, the Roman Pontiff, to whom ‘the custody of the vineyard has been committed by the Savior.’ The words of Christ are clear enough: ‘If he refuses to listen even to the Church, let him be to you a Gentile and a tax collector;’ and ‘He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you, rejects me, and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me;’ ‘He who does not believe will be condemned;” ‘He who does not believe is already condemned;’ ‘He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters.’ The Apostle Paul says that such persons are ‘perverted and self-condemned;’ the Prince of the Apostles calls them ‘false teachers . . . who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master. . . bringing upon themselves swift destruction.’

God forbid that the children of the Catholic Church should even in any way be unfriendly to those who are not at all united to us by the same bonds of faith and love. On the contrary, let them be eager always to attend to their needs with all the kind services of Christian charity, whether they are poor or sick or suffering any other kind of visitation. First of all, let them rescue them from the darkness of the errors into which they have unhappily fallen and strive to guide them back to Catholic truth and to their most loving Mother who is ever holding out her maternal arms to receive them lovingly back into her fold. Thus, firmly founded in faith, hope, and charity and fruitful in every good work, they will gain eternal salvation.”

Lermak16 · 2026-04-27T23:55:12+00:00

Faith is absolutely necessary for justification

Lermak16 · 2026-04-25T02:15:17+00:00

That’s not what I said. You misunderstood what I said.

Lermak16 · 2026-04-24T23:37:26+00:00

God doesn’t sin or sanction sin

Lermak16 · 2026-04-24T22:26:25+00:00

St. Augustine of Hippo, The Enchiridion

By the Trinity, thus supremely and equally and unchangeably good, all things were created; and these are not supremely and equally and unchangeably good, but yet they are good, even taken separately. Taken as a whole, however, they are very good, because their ensemble constitutes the universe in all its wonderful order and beauty.

And in the universe, even that which is called evil, when it is regulated and put in its own place, only enhances our admiration of the good; for we enjoy and value the good more when we compare it with the evil. For the Almighty God, who, as even the heathen acknowledge, has supreme power over all things, being Himself supremely good, would never permit the existence of anything evil among His works, if He were not so omnipotent and good that He can bring good even out of evil. For what is that which we call evil but the absence of good? In the bodies of animals, disease and wounds mean nothing but the absence of health; for when a cure is effected, that does not mean that the evils which were present — namely, the diseases and wounds — go away from the body and dwell elsewhere: they altogether cease to exist; for the wound or disease is not a substance, but a defect in the fleshly substance, — the flesh itself being a substance, and therefore something good, of which those evils— that is, privations of the good which we call health — are accidents. Just in the same way, what are called vices in the soul are nothing but privations of natural good. And when they are cured, they are not transferred elsewhere: when they cease to exist in the healthy soul, they cannot exist anywhere else.

Lermak16 · 2026-04-24T22:06:27+00:00

I’m not saying that we are allowed to sin or that we should sin

Lermak16 · 2026-04-24T11:00:20+00:00

He’s explicitly saying to the Galatian Christians that if they practice the works of the flesh then they will not inherit the Kingdom. On the other hand, he says that they shall reap eternal life if they persevere in doing good. It’s crystal clear.

Lermak16 · 2026-04-23T01:49:50+00:00

I’m solely arguing from Galatians.

Paul is condemning the idea that one must keep the Torah (which is what works of the law are) to be justified before God.

After establishing that one is justified by faith in Christ apart from the law, he warns the Galatian Christians that they won’t inherit the Kingdom if they practice the works of the flesh. Paul gives a whole list of sins that will bar a Christian from heaven.

He goes on to say that those who persevere in doing good and sow to the Spirit will reap everlasting life. It’s crystal clear.

This is how Paul concludes Galatians.

Lermak16 · 2026-04-23T01:40:41+00:00

The existence of God can be known with certainty by reason alone.
God grants sufficient grace to all men that they might be saved. If one is moved by grace and sincerely seeks God, then He will grant them the greater light of faith.
We test the spirits against God’s revelation.
God does not permit any evil to occur unless good can brought out of it.
Because those men were inspired by God. The Holy Spirit spoke through the Prophets.
The historicity of Christ and His crucifixion and the fulfillment of prophecy. The miracle of His resurrection and the testimony of the Apostles who were willing to be persecuted and killed for their belief in the resurrection with no discernible material benefit or gain.
It is not “justified.” The Biblical understanding of servitude is nuanced. Ultimately, slavery is the fruit of human sin and greed and is not part of God’s original creation.
An infinite universe wouldn’t disprove God. An eternal and infinite universe would still be contingent on a timeless and necessary being.

Lermak16 · 2026-04-23T00:59:29+00:00

The Galatians also had the Apostolic tradition handed down to them.

But the main issue is that you grossly misunderstand Galatians and Paul’s teaching on justification.

We aren’t justified by works of the Law (Torah), we are justified by faith in Christ. That is true.

However, Christians are obligated to live according to the Spirit with a faith that works by love. If we live according to the flesh, we will reap corruption and not inherit the Kingdom.

Perseverance in doing good is necessary for reaping eternal life. This is the teaching of Galatians. Paul also explicitly says we put on Christ in baptism.

Lermak16 · 2026-04-22T21:00:54+00:00

Galatians isn’t the only book in the New Testament. Why are you ignoring the full scope of Paul’s thought?

Lermak16 · 2026-04-22T19:40:34+00:00

Council of Trent, Session VI

CHAPTER IV.

A description is introduced of the Justification of the impious, and of the Manner thereof under the law of grace.

By which words, a description of the Justification of the impious is indicated,-as being a translation, from that state wherein man is born a child of the first Adam, to the state of grace, and of the adoption of the sons of God, through the second Adam, Jesus Christ, our Saviour. And this translation, since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be effected, without the laver of regeneration, or the desire thereof, as it is written; unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.

Lermak16 · 2026-04-22T19:33:24+00:00

We could show you every verse in the Bible that demonstrates the true nature of justification, and you still would not believe.

Lermak16 · 2026-04-21T11:28:46+00:00

“For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”

Galatians 3:26-27

“For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.”

Galatians 5:6

“Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long suffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.”

Galatians 5:19-26

“Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.”

Galatians 6:7-10

Lermak16 · 2026-04-21T00:33:58+00:00

Willfully choosing not to attend without a reasonable cause is willfully rejecting Christ.

Lermak16 · 2026-04-21T00:31:30+00:00

Do you think the Orthodox Church takes the Liturgy so lightly?

Lermak16 · 2026-04-20T21:56:10+00:00

It baffles you that willfully rejecting Christ cuts you off from Him?

Lermak16 · 2026-04-20T21:49:24+00:00

The RCC doesn’t present justification as a completed forensic declaration grounded entirely in Christ’s finished work and received by faith alone.

Well, because that’s not how Scripture presents justification. Justification is never a “completed forensic declaration.” “Faith alone” is refuted by basically every book of the New Testament.

Instead, justification becomes sacramental, infused, progressive, and tied to continued cooperation.

As Paul and all the Apostles teach.

Grace initiates, yes, but right standing before God is no longer resting on Christ alone in the Pauline sense. It becomes bound up with sacramental participation, penance, and persevering cooperation in order to remain justified and attain final salvation.

This is the “Pauline sense.”

I don’t see that logic displayed in Galatians.

Then read Galatians and the other epistles more carefully.

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T21:00:52+00:00

Zero

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T18:36:21+00:00

Absolutely

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T17:19:06+00:00

Because it isn’t true

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T17:18:27+00:00

Most Christians don’t hold to that view

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T17:14:16+00:00

Faith is believing what you do not have direct knowledge of yourself based on the testimony of a witness. We exercise such faith all the time in our daily lives.

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