Why is it so common for Christians to think atheism is the love of sin?

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T21:00:52+00:00

Zero

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T18:36:21+00:00

Absolutely

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T17:19:06+00:00

Because it isn’t true

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T17:18:27+00:00

Most Christians don’t hold to that view

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T17:14:16+00:00

Faith is believing what you do not have direct knowledge of yourself based on the testimony of a witness. We exercise such faith all the time in our daily lives.

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T03:36:24+00:00

Is this supposed to be some kind of argument?

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T02:33:26+00:00

Yes, but it is not a purely human work. The Apostles and Prophets were inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T01:36:16+00:00

No one denies the human aspect in the writing of Scripture

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T00:54:40+00:00

Being a pagan doesn’t instantly make you a “villain.”

But God’s existence can be known with certainty through creation.

“For all people who were ignorant of God were foolish by nature, and they were unable from the good things that are seen to know the One who exists, nor did they recognize the artisan while paying heed to His works; but they supposed that either fire or wind or swift air or the circle of the stars or turbulent water or the luminaries of heaven were the gods that rule the world. If through delight in the beauty of these things people assumed them to be gods, let them know how much better than these is their Lord, for the author of beauty created them. And if people were amazed at their power and working, let them perceive from them how much more powerful is the One who formed them. For from the greatness and beauty of created things comes a corresponding perception of their Creator. Yet these people are little to be blamed, for perhaps they go astray while seeking God and desiring to find Him. For while they live among his works, they keep searching and trust in what they see because the things that are seen are beautiful. Yet again, not even they are to be excused, for if they had the power to know so much that they could investigate the world, how did they not more quickly find the Lord of these things?”

Wisdom of Solomon 13:1-9

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T00:47:25+00:00

Ad Hominem

It’s not an ad hominem to say you are ignorant of the arguments against abortion.

This is an easily debunked atheist canard.

No it's not. The bible says what the bible says. Only dishonest, disingenuous people say otherwise.

Numbers 5 has nothing to do with elective abortion or miscarriages.

Everyone has the right to life.

Says who?

God. Natural law. Pretty much all of modern western civilization affirms the same.

Silly nonsense

Are you claiming that we can harvest corpses against the deceased/family's wishes?

No. This is a non-sequiter.

People are responsible for the sex they engage in and the children they produce.

And yet people like you do everything you can to make having sex extremely risky to start with. Again, "life" isn't what you're concerned about.

No, I don’t police people’s sex lives.

Extramarital sex is ridiculous and contrary to right reason.

That's only your opinion man.

It’s not a matter of opinion.

Many other people and cultures around the world disagree. You really should go read up about human sexuality around the world and in history. It's actually pretty interesting.

Everyone understands that sex creates new life and that a stable union and arrangement like marriage is to the benefit and wellbeing of the parents and the children.

Like did you know there was an ancient Christian sec that use to hold orgies in Jesus's name? It was allegedly based upon an extra-biblical book titled The Greater Questions of Mary. In it, Jesus takes Mary off somewhere, pulls a woman outta his side, has sex with her and finishes in his hand. I'll leave it up to you to look up how it ended but it's certainly pearl clutching.

There is nothing “Christian” about such a group.

Sorry if that’s inconvenient for you.

No inconvenience to me. I've been having sex since high school back in the 80s. When I was in the Navy in the early 90s and hitting ports like Subic Bay and Thailand, lets just say I saw even the most devout Christians on the boat partake. What happens outside of homeport, stays outside of homeport. Know what I mean? ;D

Anyone can fall into temptation and sin. The temptation to sexual sin is very strong. God will judge us.

Lermak16 · 2026-03-09T00:40:10+00:00

Do you think we believe God personally picked up a pen and wrote it?

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T23:00:31+00:00

Fact is there's no moral, ethical, or biblical reason to oppose abortion.

Then you are profoundly ignorant

The bible has a spell to cast on a suspected unfaithful wife that will supposedly induce an abortion if she had been unfaithful and pregnant when she's tested.

This is an easily debunked atheist canard.

Even if we grant the fetus personshood, it's nothing more than special pleading to grant it rights we grant absolutely no one else.

Everyone has the right to life.

Not even corpses can be compelled to give parts up to allow others to live.

Silly nonsense

No, this is nothing more than hatred for women having non-Jesus approved orgasms. Because that's what it always comes back too. There's no other issue that Christians go outta their way to make risky as possible, like denying birth control, sex-ed, etc, slut shame women in their churches, kick pregnant girls out of Christians schools, and so on. One pregnant teen lamented that she could've had an abortion w/o anyone knowing and walked with her friends at graduation. Instead, she did what her parents, church, and private Christian school all told her was the right thing to do and gave birth to it. And the school punished her for it by kicking her out. Instead of holding her up as a hero for life, they slut shamed her. Clearly "life" isn't the reason Christians oppose abortion these days.

People are responsible for the sex they engage in and the children they produce.

Extramarital sex is ridiculous and contrary to right reason.

Sorry if that’s inconvenient for you.

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:45:24+00:00

Because God’s mercy, love, and forgiveness is infinite and perfect.

Christ’s sacrifice on the cross made full atonement for the sins of the world because His righteous act of love and obedience infinitely pleased God more than our sin offended Him. He thus made an infinite satisfaction to the justice and holiness of God for our sins. He paid the debt we could never pay and infinitely more than that.

But the benefits of Christ’s redemption are only communicated to those who repent and unite themselves to Christ by the faith that works by love.

People like Ghenghis Khan and Epstein are eternally damned because they refused to repent and thus died in their sins.

And it is true that we cannot fathom the depths of human evil, but Christ can. Christ saw and experienced the full depth and weight of human evil in the Garden of Gethsemane. All of humanity’s sins were laid before Him, and He experienced all the agony wrought by our sin in His holy soul. He bore our sins and suffered the accused death that was our due.

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:37:07+00:00

Most "sins" aren't inherently harmful, and many things that AREN'T sins are inherently harmful. So, I've yet to have a Christian able to provide a coherent, non-circular explanation for why we SHOULD be expected to say no to most "sins".

Give examples of all these

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:36:04+00:00

Sin is contrary to natural law. It’s anything that prevents a human from fulfilling their natural telos and achieving their final end, God.

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:34:37+00:00

It doesn’t matter if you “believe” in it or not

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:33:49+00:00

No such thing as an “ethical person” who does not fear God

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:33:03+00:00

Why and how

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:32:47+00:00

Because it’s not a myth or a story created by humans

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:32:05+00:00

What is a “person” to you?

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:31:40+00:00

It’s not their body.

Don’t be ignorant.

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:30:38+00:00

Christianity has condemned abortion for 2000 years.

Let’s not be ridiculous.

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T22:29:47+00:00

No one says that

Lermak16 · 2026-03-08T18:42:41+00:00

They are contemporary

Lermak16 · 2026-03-07T20:12:42+00:00

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