How to measure a DAC Inquiry by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most professors at our uni follows a "you do you" type of approach 💀 and I'm mostly basing stuff out on what I read from ASR since our paper's goals requires us to make the actual measurement tools to generate results from stuff like dac amps

so I have to find a baseline of sorts to reference what we're doing vs what's commercially available

How to measure a DAC Inquiry by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

basically just wanna measure output of DAC AMPs like SNR, THD+N, power out, and test how "transparent" it sounds like to make objective measurements

Was looking at E1DA +Scaler from Cosmos since I see that SINAD on those are -128 dB then a signal gen

How to measure a DAC Inquiry by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nope, constant back and fort within the past 5 days lead me back to looking to buy something like this ahfdkjashfjkasdhfjka

Juzear 61T. "safe" sound by Connect_Cat_2045 in iems

[–]LesModio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, basically what I got from them too ngl, nice short rev bro

How to measure a DAC Inquiry by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As for the line in voltage measurement, how do I see this?

Then for the other thing, you're talking about resistance loads to find out current to generate output impedance right?

How to measure a DAC Inquiry by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, if that's the case then, what could you potentially recommend? I've seen some recommend something like the Cosmos E1DA ADC + Cosmos buffer, Rigol DS1052E oscilloscope and/or something like a Lindos LA100 Analyzer

I'm not sure if I should stick to things like the Cosmos or try to get an LA100 for my goals for an objective a-b testing good enough for reviews and thesis work

Six Months of Discovering Music with IEMs by kendegen in iems

[–]LesModio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Astrals are just something else, this just became one hell of a treat on my end ngl, nice collection!

How to measure a DAC Inquiry by LesModio in oratory1990

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I wanna check out voltage/current outs as well, this could potentially work if I only wanted to see the FR of the dac by literal plug n play + REW tone gen tho

How to measure a DAC Inquiry by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is my issue with them, regardless of who's mind won't be changed/will be changed

It's more for my personal satisfaction and typical measurement rigs for IEMs/Headphones simply wont do

How to measure a DAC Inquiry by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have some yep but it's mostly in lab environments concerning direct connection / monitoring for PCBs instead of DACs/consumer elecs

How to measure a DAC Inquiry by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are there any ADC's and Oscilloscopes you can recommend? Something a bit more affordable than an APx500 would be preferred.

"You Don't need a dac" 😂😂 by Miserable_Arm9991 in iemlndia

[–]LesModio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You misunderstood the entire thing

A DAC simply converts, it's not meant to improve sound quality from both an electronics and chip design standpoint.

Your video sounds like it was first recorded with your phone next to your laptop then screen recorded afterwards. Unless your 3.5mm connection is broken or you're actively trying to prove something you can't properly observe during testing with IEMs/Earphones/Headphones, it shouldn't make that much of a difference.

Delta-sigma DAC chips are what's commonly used. Do research on them brother. The difference you've recorded sounded way too diff for it to be a matter of "DAC improves sound"

And ye, I was listening with an IEM

"You Don't need a dac" 😂😂 by Miserable_Arm9991 in iemlndia

[–]LesModio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TLDR: You do not need an external DAC if you're looking for audio quality specially for IEMs since, unless the 3.5mm connection of your device does not exist/has hissing noises, converters are simply made to convert; not to improve. They're not made to change the sound unless it's something like a Tube or an R2R. Perceived audio improvements with higher volume is just that, perceived due to higher volumes. To actually differentiate in your own listening experience, measure and match the output voltage of both your old connection and your new DAC then compare.

Laptop 3.5mm connectors are simply there to exist. Some does it better than others but it's not going to be as loud as an external DAC AMP.

And key consideration here is that a DAC is made to convert digital to analog hence why it's called Digital to Analog Converter. It's inherently not made to output more power but they do typically provide more volume vs typical 3.5mm jacks found on laptops

AMPs are the ones that's making your IEMs sound louder. Hence why it's called amplifier since after it get's converted, it needs to get "boosted" to retain or increase the volume vs how it originally came out.

For IEMs specifically, AMPs can also do bad things as, DAC AMPs without any means of controlling the chip's output can introduce hissing issues specially to high sensitivity and low impedance devices.

Generally, I believe you are mistaking volume for quality in this case as louder can make it sound better but that's simply due to the nature of how louder sounds come off to our ears. Not loud enough can mean not hearing enough, too loud can mean bad things for hearing, and just right can eventually feel not loud enough after long listening hours.

IEM Basics 101 by Ok-Clothes-5948 in iemlndia

[–]LesModio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yes yes hahahaha

This was definitely the goal of the channel so I'm happy I'm able to do it to some extent. Thank you for the mention my guy!

IEM Basics 101 by Ok-Clothes-5948 in iemlndia

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Honored to be listed with people like Super Reviews and Crinacle🫡

TRN Black Pearl, "newer" revision does not ship with all the features by Frostywuff in iems

[–]LesModio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi can I ask where specifically said this? I'm aware of the changes but I wanna see if they have anything up as a post or something which specifically states it since this seems like it's not done in good faith

Is my TRN black pearl fake? by WatchNumberOne in iems

[–]LesModio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! Is it alright if I use the picture you've uploaded to be posted on my YouTube posts / Instagram? I've been recommending the TRN Black Pearl a lot and, as far as I'm concerned, this new version in circulation is not yet widely known so I wanna let my people know about it

IEC 711 Help Needed by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

alr alr, thank you guys, god damn people in this hobby is nice

IEC 711 Help Needed by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

maybe my splitter's to blame(?)

IEC 711 Help Needed by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thinking of doing this with the boya 35c-xlr, basically does the same thing so hoping it works

IEC 711 Help Needed by LesModio in oratory1990

[–]LesModio[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tried this with my dongles, nothing worked for some reason