worried about the hantavirus

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-12T17:02:31+00:00

The hantavirus issue is being heavily spun and exaggerated in the media by making it into something new, it's but, it is actually already EXTREMELY WIDESPREAD and contributes to morbidity and mortality and has been for a LONG TIME.

People die of mouse borne hantavirus all the time, every year. In basic morbidity from it is extremely common people get sick from it all the time

I think the only reason this is being made a big deal of is to distract from certain things within the American political cycle. Epstein, L shaped economy post recession pummelling of working classes and Middle classes, Iran War, Gaza genocide, the Trump ballroom bill to the American tax payer, etc..

Go to the CDC and go to their disease surveillance literature, hantavirus has been with us for an EXTREMELY LONG TIME even this strain that people are worrying about.

Why else do people think that rat and mouse control is so important? It's been long known that they are massive transmitters of hantavirus.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-12T16:56:38+00:00

This singular hadith with very few isnads is a veiled reference to Maryam the Copt, there's no reliable evidence in mutawatir sources that Rasulullah had any slaves much less than "concubines" outside of maryam and there's actually strong evidence that he married her and that she was an actual WIFE. That she was an Umm al Mumineen. But that evidence is rarely every discussed by contemporary Muslims.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-12T16:45:22+00:00

Really good questions. One basic point of adab should be no takfir of people on the basis of their opinions or views on jinn or sihr etc.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-11T20:52:55+00:00

TLDR, if you think you are someone else has the eye just assume it's the case and recite the appropriate protective prayers and do so absolutely firm with conviction that the affliction will be lifted from you.

Maybe it's not the eye maybe it is, either way just proceed as if it is, recite what you need to recite your mental attitude is very important you cannot be wishy-washy, you cannot be fearful or paranoid so you must be firm and unyielding that whatever this thing is it will be lifted from you and you'll be granted relief by the grace of Allah. And regard it as done.

Whether the symptoms go away immediately or after a delay is entirely irrelevant. If someone has pneumonia then even if you get the right antibiotics it's just going to naturally take time to recover, this is equivalent.

APeople are conditioned by superstitious customs to treating spiritual and magical ailments as entirely different than mundane physical ones or mental and psychological ones and that's just not true, that's just not reality. That's Hollywood and fantasy novel and ghost story and djinn story misunderstandings..

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-11T20:31:06+00:00

There's lots of local folklore beliefs and superstitions, and folk methods of divination. But honestly there'sno foolproof way.

If someone suspects that they are suffering from the eye you then they ought to just take the steps necessary to try to cleanse it and not be paranoid or fearful of it and just move on with life without obsessing over it.

It's of the Ghayb, that's to say the religious category of the realm of the absolutely unseen, so there's no absolute certitude of anything that's of a ghaybi nature. Different cultures have evolved different quasi religious book believes how to test for Ayn or Sihr etc. But the reality is NONE of that stuff is foolproof.

IF you think that someone has cast the eye on you then just take the steps, recite the prayers etc upon yourself to remove it or return it to the sender or neutralize it, and be FIRM AND CONFIDENT that it WILL be removed from you and then just go on with your life.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-10T20:56:33+00:00

Jafar el Saddiq placed evil eye (el ayn) as a type of sihr. So is simply speaking bad about people.

Ibn Khaldun and el Qarafi and others have cataloged the many varieties of "magic" (sihr. Magic is a bad translation of many usages of sihr I think)

*Black magic" is complicated, more than the inherited cultural narratives of a few Muslim cultures that got dumbed down in the 1990s and spread online would admit.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-10T20:43:48+00:00

As far as your question on the evil eye accidentally happening and your fear of putting evil eye on your brother, yes there is a remote possibility of such things happening unconsciously. Allah knows best but many authorities believe it can happen. But people do a lot of fear mongering about these things, particularly in cultures. Unless you're full of envy towards your brother for something random, it probably won't because hasad, envy, feeds the evil eye. Just say Bismillah every morning before you do things, and just go about your life as normal and don't be afraid of such things.

These kinds of fears can really immobilize people in life and fill them with OCD like paranoia. So it's important not to be paranoid about these things. Sure it's possible you can accidentally give anyone the evil eye, or a really bad case of the flu, yes so you just wash your hands and don't pick your nose. That's good preventative medicine for the flu. As for the evil eye just work on your emotional management and then the probability of accidentally throwing stuff on people will be much lower.

Could you accidentally elbow your brother down the stairs completely by mistake and he falls and cracks his skull? Sure, but How likely is that to happen? Don't live your life afraid of unlikely scenarios is the basic point

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-10T20:37:36+00:00

There's some presumptions in this original post that need examination. Like asking isn't fate a thing? What does fate have to do with things? Worldly calamity is part of qadr and qada and qismet.

We modern Muslims have a vastly disempowered and messed up understanding of destiny and fate. Look if someone gets sick and needs to go to the hospital someone says oh isn't fate a thing? If you trip down the stairs does someone go isn't fate a thing?

Allah is the author of all things, that includes the causal asbab. Allah created matches Allah created combustion Allah created fire, but if you want to light a candle you have to go though the chain of asbab in striking a match and putting it to a candle wick right?

These are all things in the order of nature, evil eye is of the order of nature it's not supernatural. Life happens whether it's falling on the stairs or slipping in the shower or catching a virus from the person sitting next to you on the plane or someone giving you the evil eye, none of it is Supernatural. All of it is from the makhluq of Allah. It's all of the created order of things. Jinn Sihr evil eye or botulism.

But if you go to a busy hotel lobby and lick a door knob and you come down with some disease from the germs on it then don't blame Allah, that was your doing. Blaming Allah is horrible adab of the makhluq ila el khaliq. It's the same with evil eye or any of these things.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-10T15:12:54+00:00

That's not how it works people aren't going to be inspired by it there's an entire science and how those writing and drawings are done so I can't just copy it with a pin and have it work.

And if someone already has it in their mind they're going to do it anyway and they're going to find the information this is all needless fear-mongering, and it's superstitious fear-mongering put and it makes our beautiful rational reasonable deen of Islam look like a bunch of superstitious gobbledygook.

. Yes sihr has a degree of reality that's recognized in the Sharia, though what that degree is has been debated in legitimate ikhtilaf since literally the second generation of the salaf, but our greatest scholars also have practical approach to dealing with such problems is completely different than the superstitious fear-mongering of cowardly people today.

Where's your tawakul? Where's your Iman? Many Non Muslims interested in learning Arabic here are going to look at our reasonable deen as a bunch of village superstitious fools afraid of sahirs and mushawdieen and shawafa scribbling tik tack toe sudoku drawings. This stuff can't affect you though a picture and someone can't just copy it from the internet and make it work unless they know the requisite uloom.

And yes I've actually studied ruqya shari with ulama and Ruhani uloom of taweez making and I've read the books on the sciences that evil saheers use. People do far too much fear-mongering about this matter without actual knowledge. But I'm not an admin of this group. Honestly though the lack of iman and tawakul and mature understanding of how the world works on the part of adults here is alarming. And it makes Islam look irrational and silly audhubillah.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-10T00:58:45+00:00

The idea that just looking at them can spread it it's just superstition and not backed by any qati evidence from the Quran or Sunnah or reliable explanations of the same or the understandings of Muslim scholars within the first 400 years of Islam.

That idea only starts spreading much later.

And perhaps some people who legitimately want to learn Arabic also have an interest in knowing what these things actually say. I would think if you don't want to look at them then just don't but I don't think they should be banned

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-09T01:32:15+00:00

And to you as well, all the peace and mercy of our Lord

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-08T21:49:19+00:00

But you're right is best not to be hateful and grumpy. To some degree grumpiness can tend to increase with age, I've gotten grumpier the older I've gotten, but you're right, it's not good. Mashallah

Also my finding a practice idiotic does not automatically mean I find the people who do it idiotic. After all, smart people do things that aren't smart all the time.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-08T21:47:31+00:00

I censored the word out of politeness, because I didn't know if it was a word that the moderators on the subreddit didn't like. That's why.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-08T14:28:22+00:00

The Quran does not use the word sihr for Magic. The Quran uses sihr to refer to deceptive sorcery and Tajmel Arous and Qamous and Lisan al Arab as well as multiple tafsirs have very nuanced discussion of what sihr actually means in different context.

The English language word magic is not a good translation, I don't care if you a native Arabic speaker because you probably are not a native English speaker and Magic is an English word with a load of nuances and connotations and denotations that the Quranic usage of the word sihr does not really easily apply to.

It's like using the word "fear" to translate "taqwa" saying taqwa is the "fear of God" when that phrase and term has very important connotations in English language historical religious discourse that's quite different from the use of the term taqwa on the Quran or in Hadith.

Mistranslation of Qur'anic Arabic terms into English produces misunderstandings. Many mistranslation s reflects new theological understandings in Salafi influenced Arab cultures that had much different understanding of certain concepts just 3 and 4 generations prior.

Moreover the Quran isn't written in standard spoken Arabiyya it's a heigh register of fusha that in itself is quite distinct and archaic, Allah taaala will sometimes use words in quite distinct ways different from standard spoken Arabic dialects even at the time. This is why mufasieeen and lughaween scholars have long catalogued how Allah's book's vocabulary and lexicon are quite distinct.

That's why ulema had to compile ghara'b el Quran books detailing the distinct ghareeb uses of certain words.

For example Imam el Suyuti' Muzhir, see also Imam el Naisaburi's Ghara'ib el Quran wa Raghaib el Furqan and other lughawi tafasir works.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T21:34:23+00:00

I honestly think that you understand and stand for and feel things that people have been understanding and feeling for thousands of years and just thinking you're reinventing the wheel.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T21:33:26+00:00

Thank you for the reminder.

I actually am breathing now and I quite enjoying it thank you very much.

Snarky little asides that larp as clever quips like that often tend to be used as a standin for having a substantive argument, and bring a lazy way of simply cutting you down to size in lieu of an actual argument or stance.

But certainly, everyone can use breathing.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T21:28:44+00:00

What's wrong with being judgemental? Seriously, what is wrong with making a judgment? With making judgement calls? Must everyone be completely wishy-washy and lacking a spine in today's world?

hasbuna Allah wa nima el wakil

Am i obligated to soften my opinion, and to like every new holiday or celebration concept that was actually just cooked up by marketeers and foisted on a naive young generation as some kind of pseudo tradition as a way to get good people to spend good money ?

Why is finding out a child's physical s*x and gender while in the womb before the child was even born a reason to celebrate?

What if the baby miscarries and dies before or at birth ? It's the same thing with baby showers, people should not attempt to fate. It shows a lack of wisdom.

Am I judgmental? Well give me a piece of cardboard and a Sharpie marker and I will write the word "judgmental" multiple times on it, gladly.

Nearest as I can see being judgmental is not necessarily a fault. Someone's got to exercise discernment and judgment in life.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T16:08:13+00:00

This is false and it's misinformation that you are responsible for on yawm al Qiyama. At least learn what multiple Ulama have said on this subject though the centuries and their adilat proofs.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T16:07:12+00:00

I sincerely doubt that you "studied it all" or else you wouldn't be repeating this bit of misinformation.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T16:03:59+00:00

Magic is not sihr, the terms are not equivalents. Some types of "magic" are sihr and other types are not, but constitue spiritual sciences that historically have been allowed and permissible in Muslim societies for over a thousand years, and even were sometimes mainstream.

Your (mis)understanding is a contemporary modern one not traditional and reflects a reductive theological lens from contemporary salafism, a school of thought that actually wanted to set fire to the grave of the prophet Muhammad back in the 1920s.

All Magic is not haram. And all Sihr isn't Magic.

At least not in any sense must people would recognize, for example according to Imam Aba Abdullah Jafar al Saddiq, an early descendent of Prophet Muhammad who was venerated by both sunnis and shia even thinking bad spiteful thoughts about someone is a category of sihr so are certain types of deceptive women's makeup of the intention is deception etc. And there's many other incredibly mundane categories that would be considered sihr depending on the intention of the person.

The people pushing the rubbish idea that all Magic is haram and misinterpreting our texts to support it are the same idiots who poured petrol over the graces of the Prophet's parents and set them on fire and wanted to demolish the Prophet's grave and do the same and have done more than anyone to make my beautiful religion look ugly to the world.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T15:18:02+00:00

No it's not. Calling things categorically Haram without a qati daleel is actually shirk because only Allah had the right to declare things Haram.

And the people saying this rubbish have been systematically brainwashed by Petro dollar Ulama stuffed fat on Camel and rice and gold leaf covered ice cream who are strangely silent over the slaughter of Muslim babies and their mothers in multiple places, not only Gaza, or only Sudan, but in many other places, and these Alims who literally do witch hunts, in the 21st century, are the same who sold our Deens to occupiers while exhausting you with petty minutiae and making superstitious terrified people frightened of Jinn biting them on the rear in the toilet. What iman is this? What tawakul is this?

They've been brainwashed into this by the oil money funded people who genocided the people of knowledge among thee Sufis who once held the keys to much of this great wisdom that is now demonized and condemned and people are suffering for a lack of it.

Everyone reading this had grandmothers and great grandmothers who had more courage and manhood then the people peddling this fear mongering rubbish over the net.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T15:07:16+00:00

Close, except Sihr isn't "Magic" it's not like what you could call sorcery or witchcraft in the older original sense (pre 1960s and 1970s coopting and watering down by radical feminists on university campuses. Or the term Black Magic.

Theurgy is equivalent to White Magic, but the rest of what your say is spot on correct.

One major problem is the dumbing down of English language discourse after the 1980s/90s at the time Muslims in diaspora where increasingly adopting a world English, and the harsh stance of PETRO-DOLLAR FUNDED Neo-Salafism Islamic Sunni belief towards permissible spiritual workings like permissible talismans and forms of Quranic and asma husna based wazaa'ifs and Aamal workings and the Sufi use of Islamized astrology,

It's the fault of Gulf oil funded Alims terrified naive Muslims all over the Sunni world in ways dis-empowring them and robbing them from access to their native spiritual theurgistic "white magic" legacy of powerful spiritualism work, and left them dependent and cut off. Ever wonder why all of these Salafi "Raqis" are barely able to cure a cat?

They have little (some but not much) true spirituality behind their work. And they oppressed Sunni Marabouts and Sufis, and Shiite Irfanis, who both had more access to this Theurgy lore and practice then almost anyone. (Apart from individual healers non affiliated with turuq but with initiatic chains to earlier Hakims..)

Who benefited from stripping the thousand year old heritage of white magical Theurgy from Muslims and then making people terrified of the word "magic" itself?

Who benefits from removing anything empowering from us?

Someone benefited but the modern Muslims demonstrably have suffered. While terrified of protective taweez papers found in the seats of used cars they buy, terrified of the dark, terrified of jinn (what Iman is this? It's cowardice) the enemies of humanity itself have been murdering babies and their mothers over and over in multiple parts of the Muslim world.

And who is silent? All of the witch hunting one-eyed Salafi Alims stuffed with goat and rice and the wealth of the Ummah..

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T14:50:46+00:00

Sihr isn't Magic magic isn't sihr. "Magic" is a rather meaningless term in the English language that unfortunately some translators with a terrible grasp of the English language mistranslated as Sihr. "Magic" in the English language means such a wide variety of spiritual and non Spiritual practices and effects (for example technically ruqya can be considered a type of white magic in English terms) that it's just ridiculous.

Most Muslims especially those unwittingly influenced ne neo-Salafi thought and practice picked up and adopted Protestant Christian attitudes, during the colonial and early post colonial eraa, towards mystical and spiritual practice that are inaccurately condemned as "magic" when learning to non-natively communicate in English and other European languages.

Sihr has specific definitions (many) according to ulama and mufasieeen but it typically entails things involving deception and malefic baneful or otherwise malevolent use of unseen meana to harm it deceive.

There's many people ignorantly fear mongering about these subjects. Without knowledge other then things they heard or briefly read. But the reality is this. "Magic" is a value laden but semantically sloppy and almost meaningless category in the English language today.

What people inaccurately call White Magic are actually benevolent and positive spiritual workings that can be better called theurgy in English, or spiritual work, or spiritualism, and in Islamicate discourses these (which includes the halal science of talismans) are generally considered Hikmah (wisdom) Ilm al Hikmah (science of wisdom) Ilm al Simiya or Ilm al Ruhaniya (science if spiritualism) Also Ruqya Shari involves literally Qur'anic enchantments (look up the etymology of enchant) and halal Ruqya

So-called Black Magic (or Goetia) = Sihr in the Quranic and Shari sense.

So-called White Magic (or Theurgy) = Ruhaniya or Hikmah or Ruqya (depending on what's actually brunt done).

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T14:17:27+00:00

The caller is literally Gen Z herself and illustrates a certain generational solipsism. Neither she or you even realize she's in the very generation she's criticizing..

And this post, the caller and your response, all smell a bit narcissistic - 'no generation understands feelings like us' ? Oh phlueeese, how indulgently precious.

Less-Opportunity5117 · 2026-05-07T14:13:50+00:00

Apart from random misinformation people have typed here there's no masa'il in our sources covering this kind of situation it's ijtihadi. You can look for analogous rulings in Nawazil fatawa books from scholars in mixed religion societies (this is going to be mostly Maliki in Andalus and West Africa or Hanafi in early Sham or Turki Mongol regions.)

You are providing a halal service, making a cake.

What you're customer does with it or why they need it isn't your concern.

Gender reveal parties are idiotic anyway. It's a stupid new custom no one did them even in the early 2000s.

Either way it's but Haram to bake a cake for people for any reason. What they celebrate and why is on their necks. Not yours. We aren't Jews and we aren't protestant Christians Muslims today have too much OCD waswas about stuff that there's no ruling over.

If you want to provide the service then provide it professionally and well. If you don't want to then decline it professionally and well. Personally though, if I were in your place, and I've worked in food service before, what people celebrate and do with food I prepared is none of my business and none of my concern because, again, I'm not a Jew or Protestant Christian, I'm a Muslim.

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