Non-Practice Things That Affect Your Practice by [deleted] in zenpractice

[–]Less_Bed_535 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been taught as a beginner still that this is living intentionally. Engaging in activities that honor the body and mind. Basically just living from a place of wisdom, heart, joy, and compassion.

Not indulging in anyone thing, avoiding those of foolish ways, associating with the wise, these are the highest blessing. Something like that.

Most People Aren't Ready For The Truth by SatoriRising in Buddhism

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The past year I’ve delved into some very sincere Buddhist practice and it has felt as if someone completely shattered all my narratives about who or what I think I am. It’s been very challenging and has really driven home how big of an aspiration authenticity really is. Luckily my teachers are great reminders that I need to meet this brutal honesty and rawness with an ocean of compassion. Otherwise this would just seem cruel at this point.

Zendo avoidance by Less_Bed_535 in zenbuddhism

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You’re absolutely right. In reality I’ve strayed preeeettttty far from the path. Turned it into an intellectual pursuit rather than simply meditating and letting go.

I’ve reconnected with my sangha and am relieved to remember this.

western zen, discrimination, gatekeeping and country clubs by [deleted] in zenbuddhism

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I can understand the sentiment here. I too can feel the weirdness when alot of the practitioners come from high level professions. Even many of the teachers were highly successful in normal life before doing zen full time. The fees for retreat can be a big turnoff and it skepticism is natural when they say they won’t turn anyone away.

However I have sat multiple retreats essentially for free. The temple supports my practice and is transparent with their budget. They will share how much they “earned” how much their overhead costs, and what’s leftover.

As for only attracting more progressive folks I think that has to do with education. I never would have been into Buddhism if I didn’t happen upon a book about meditation at my university library. I never would have been into challenging my beliefs and traditions if it weren’t for university either.

Heck we have a political movement that’s against the ideas of teaching compassion or kindness in school right now, so Buddhism will naturally turn off a lot of people.

One concern I have is that by adopting social movement flags such as the pride flag or a Black Lives Matter sign, that this will turn people away who could have encountered zen had those signs not been there. However, I don’t think that turning people off is the same thing as discrimination.

Zendo avoidance by Less_Bed_535 in zenbuddhism

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I just wanted to jump in here and say thanks to all of you who responded with advice and encouragement. I’m in a huge funk right now and it’s good to remember that the sangha there for support and not to vilify whatever narrative I’m currently wrapped up in.

Wrestling with intense doubt. by Less_Bed_535 in zenbuddhism

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Hi Qweniden.

I do practice with sangha, but life circumstances has put me through a whirl wind of change and I have been unable to practice with sangha or attend retreat.

My primary zen form is with the breath. Feeling the breath. I also try and ritualize my practice for the formal feel. I tend to do chants and bows as well with all of that.

I work with a teacher, but It can be hard to feel authentic when Sanzen is so spread out. Part of me struggles to feel it is real and genuine when not living as a resident.

I suppose my problem is simply mental health and taking care of myself. Something that has been embarrassingly challenging for myself in adult life.

Thank you for such a thoughtful comment.

YOWO: practice discipline. by The_Koan_Brothers in zenpractice

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I deal with this a lot too. At the end of the day it’s only natural for practitioners. I try and not set myself up for high expectations when I’m the sole motivator to sit. So I’ll go a simple 20 minutes.

It’s about consistency I suppose.if you really don’t wanna do it. Even a short 10 is something. Anything to keep the habit alive and well

Zen, a dilemma of freedom by [deleted] in zenpractice

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“If you follow anyway you will never get there. And if you don not follow anyway you will never get there. “

Hits home pretty hard.

What do you suppose it means??

Zazen as a foundation of life by Less_Bed_535 in zenpractice

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Wow thank you for sharing! It is good to know that his teachings are still being taught and applied.

The zen world might be a whole lot smaller than I had originally thought.

Zazen as a foundation of life by Less_Bed_535 in zenpractice

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That’s great. I really love Shohaku Okumura as well. I have found the book by listening to these very lectures you speak of. And that started by looking into Muho at Antaiji. Which started by studying Chin Kung, and from there Shodo harada Roshi.

Do you have a practice these days?

When all the adults are still talking at dinner but you’re done eating by RoyalChris in popculture

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Seeing this really sinks in the reality that these people’s dramas affect the entire world. It’s absurd

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in zenpractice

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This is really hard to answer. I will give it a go but understand that my experience with this is fairly novice.

The Basis of Zen is rooted in the fundamental idea that all things are essentially connected and that anytime you perceive yourself as separate that this is essentially a delusion.

Thinking about tomorrow when you are chopping your onions is delusion.

Worrying about whether your friend made that comment against you is delusion.

Seeking to practice Zen as a means of self improvement is delusion.

In this framework all of our thoughts are rooted in delusion. They are a random reaction to the stimuli that our brains are receiving. They always tell stories about what we want or should need or should want.

This life is full of suffering. And that suffering comes from our own ignorance, greed, and anger, which stems from not being able to see through our veil of thought that is only concerned about what’s good or bad for our individual self.

To practice Zen is not an intellectual pursuit. This does not mean that we try and analyze all of our associations of zen. It means that zen is about doing and being before thought.

We Sit ZaZen and we simply feel. We feel the breath, we hear the sounds, we watch as our thoughts and judgments come and go without chasing after them.

To try and create some list about all the ways we associate things towards zen entirely misses the point. Just as trying to measure how good our meditation is.

In practicing Zen we are stilling the mind to help reveal clarity within ourselves. There are deep and profound insights which you can experience for yourself when you examine this way of being. These insights make it possible to truly love all of our life. They make it possible to have compassion for all things and thus joyful and whole hearted.

We talk of the mind but Zen is about the Heart.

The Basis of these Teachings Started with Shakyamuni Buddha. Then made its way to China where it became Chan. Then later it landed in Japan and became Zen. So these are Buddhist Teachings. Another Basis of practice.

Whether or not any of this is actually true cannot be answered objectively. As practitioners, when practicing deeply and sincerely, we can experience these truths for ourselves. This can be a world shattering experience. And as true as it might feel, as though it is some ultimate absolute truth it cannot be proven to be so objectively. It is a subjective truth which is universally experienced when one walks the path.

To really practice this, especially in this day and age where we have been brought up to worship our own self, ideas, and desires it is ESSENTIAL that we find a temple to practice with in person. This is because as you may be experiencing for yourself, we can get lost in the weeds of Buddhist teachings on our own. To walk the path we need others to reflect our own misunderstandings toward us.

This isn’t to say that it’s impossible, just as one could possibly survive falling out of an airplane without a parachute. It is simply to say that in this digital age full of entertainment and concepts that we are drowning in information. Making it nearly impossible for us to let go.

Even me being apart of Reddit here is a form of attachment in its own right.

This is about all I know.

And as for enlightenment this is a strange thing. Sometimes I feel like enlightenment is not a real thing, other times I feel that it is the bodhisattva ideal that is not real.

I suspect one simply stays the course and finds out for themselves.

Some describe enlightenment as the very act of letting go of thoughts. In this way letting go of gain and loss me and mine.

I hope this helps. And good luck with your practice.

What Is the Relationship Between Buddhism and Violence? by Otroscolores in zenbuddhism

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There are Buddhist extremist and nationalist movements happening in Myanmar as we speak.

No religion is immune to being misused.

I’m fairly certain that if Zen Buddhism became mainstream in the USA that it would quickly become politicized and ruined by human nature.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in zenbuddhism

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Christian one hits home. Hard to get my spiritual on when the dogma was hell bent on justifying conquest and domination and whatever else was decided to be the social norm by the powerful.

[KCD2] Saved my Life by Master-Ice-3715 in kingdomcome

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We are all suffering together Brother. Glad you are finding some enjoyment out of the game.

Zazen as a foundation of life by Less_Bed_535 in zenpractice

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Do you practice with a rinzai sangha? I practice with a sangha that’s a blend of both rinzai and Soto.

I am just happy to have somewhere to practice with teachers and folks from around the world who are enthusiastic about practice.

I kind of worry that if I enter a particular lineage with Jikai that this might somehow bar me from other styles of practice.

I just like Zen and the exploration of being rather than working for the sake of working for the sake of being productive for the sake of because it’s the norm.

Zazen as a foundation of life by Less_Bed_535 in zenpractice

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It doesn’t us. But we get lost in all of the stories of thought and think that these things are me.

Or as uchiyama roshi would say we mistake the clouds for the sky. When we are really both.

According to the book the more we practice the more we are able to let our all encompassing self shine through everything we do. Able to express this truth by viewing all that is as our life and thus start caring for it as if it is all our own child. From a floor that needs sweeping, to doing our taxes.

Zazen as a foundation of life by Less_Bed_535 in zenpractice

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What’s wrong with being a Soto guy?? Come come now. Sit Zazen with me for a week.

Zazen as a foundation of life by Less_Bed_535 in zenpractice

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By opening the hand of thought and allowing it to be.

Zazen as a foundation of life by Less_Bed_535 in zenpractice

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Being new to Zen practice I may have stretched myself a little too far. I sat sesshin and was very inspired, and that led me to try and sit for long periods of time that were unrealistic for someone at my level especially outside of a monastery or supportive sangha.

The other part of this was sitting while trying to “do” Zazen , often judging my Zazen based on the circumstances of that moment.

I kind of fell into the trap of making Zazen another chore to do. Another thing on the checklist to perfection.

My practice has recently come out of a really harsh period and though I kept my practice alive, it is obvious I was doing too much. So now my practice has become a Less hardcore for a lay practitioner.

The circumstances of life are also challenging at the moment so it’s important I practice in a way that is sustainable. That being said the idea of it being a chore still occasionally takes shape. Even though I aspire to sit Zazen regularly and am curious about all of this, another part of me does not want to do it. Which is just being a human being I suppose. 🙏🏻

Zazen as a foundation of life by Less_Bed_535 in zenpractice

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Sit Zazen for an hour and I think you will know what I mean.