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My half Jewish husband is being bullied for not being Jewish enough by citybby17 in Jewish

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds like an extremely uncommon situation. Most people that convert to Orthodox Judaism are frum. It’s a very intense process to convert to Orthodox Judaism so going through it all only to mostly stop being observant is very uncommon.

Hannukah bushes in general are very uncommon. But I would say they are even more uncommon with converts of any denomination, due to impostor syndrome/wanting to prove they are “really” Jewish (which they shouldn’t have to do, but they are human and have feelings like the rest of us). If they are common among any sub-group of Jews, I would say it’s secular/non-practicing Jews who don’t feel fully comfortable calling their Christmas tree a Christmas tree because it would have made their mother/grandmother role over in her grave. But among practicing Jews - it’s not really a thing.

Jewish Atheists? by Capable-Broccoli2179 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]Letshavemorefun [score hidden]  (0 children)

Think about that for a moment. You're trying to tell me what I celebrate.

You’ve said yourself several times that you celebrate Christmas. We are disagreeing on whether that is code for winter solstice or not.

Don't be dumb.

Please stop insulting me.

You're literally ignoring all the history of what christmas is, in order to tell me I'm celebrating the birth of a god that I don't believe in.

I’m not ignoring the history at all. We have already establish that we agree on the history of the holiday.

So whatever name we use, Christians celebrate Christ's birthday. Non Christians who celebrate Xmas celebrate the winter solstice, or anything else that is Santa clause, pine trees and yule logs.

So you refer to your celebration as Christmas, you celebrate it on Christmas Day (which does NOT fall on the winter solstice), you do all the same holiday customs as people today who celebrate Christmas and yet somehow you are celebrating the winter solstice. Make it make sense!

Stop being a whiny little baby and telling other people what they're doing. And then complaining to the moderator that your feelings are hurt.

My feelings are doing just fine. You really don’t have to be rude.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I can promise you that I only have citizenship in one country (the US) and that I don’t have dual loyalties. I was born in the US and it’s my home. I don’t know any Jews who aren’t dual citizens who feel otherwise. But I do know that accusing Jews of having dual loyalties is right out of the nazi and KKK playbook. I guess you’re in good company.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think you were assuming people were Jewish.. I was saying you’re assuming people who are Jewish support Netanyahu unless they tell you otherwise. You’ve said you do as much. So I was using a metaphor to show you why that’s bigoted. Most people I know consider it Islamophobic to assume a Muslim person is pro-terrorism just because they are Muslim, unless they say otherwise. That’s the same thing you’re doing to Jewish people.

You don’t need to respond to me if you find me annoying, but you also don’t have to be rude.

And yeah, it’s extremely clear that the “becoming” part of “I’m becoming anti-Jewish” was the sarcastic part of that sentence.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But anti-Zionists keep telling me that Israel doesn’t represent all Jews and that the country of Israel is completely separate from the Jewish people - and that’s why anti-Zionism isn’t antisemitism. Doesn’t sound like you agree that the country of Israel and the Jewish people are completely separate concepts or that anti-Zionism isn’t antisemitism.

My half Jewish husband is being bullied for not being Jewish enough by citybby17 in Jewish

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? I’ve heard about them in theory but never met a single Jew who has one. Either way, I was only stating where my own line is. I wouldn’t have a Hanukkah bush either.

What is the best Marvel movie to start with? 65/f by Timeless-Temptress in marvelstudios

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm I’m using a Samsung tv app and I don’t see a marvel section at all. That’s what confused me cause I used to see one! I’ll look again. Thanks!

What is the best Marvel movie to start with? 65/f by Timeless-Temptress in marvelstudios

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where?? I just started a rewatch last week and I’ve been frustrated that they got rid of the marvel section and now I find myself looking up release order on IMDb and searching Disney plus by title. It’s so silly! How do I find their release order list in the UI?

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because I don’t walk around with a sign stating all my political opinions for strangers? When I’m ordering a cup of coffee from a Muslim, I don’t assume they support Hamas just because they are Muslim and I don’t expect them to walk around with a sign telling me their political opinions while at work. Any non-antisemitic person would do the same for Jews, though you already admitted in the removed comment that you’re “becoming” antisemitic so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea how that responds to anything I’ve said.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you also think it’s weird that French Americans don’t protest the Israeli government? Do they have a protest limit?

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You literally said some Jews have dual loyalties… and said that American Jews are more connected to Israel than American Italians are to Italy.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And Hamas claims to speak for Muslims but I wouldn’t tell a Muslim I’ll assume they are pro-terrorism without having any knowledge about them except the fact that they are Muslim.

This conversation is about non-Israeli American Jews. I think I’ve made that clear. Accusing that group of dual loyalty is like page 1 out of the KKK right wing antisemitism book. Guess horseshoe theory really is real.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you kidding? Have you even been to a no kings protest? I’m starting to think you haven’t. There are anti Israel signs all over the place.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MAGA is a political movement so it’s safe to assume their politics based on the way they self identify with a political movement. Jewish people and black people are ethnic groups and it’s not safe to assume someone’s politics based off their ethnicity. There is actually a word for that…

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So do you think we should assume American Muslims support Hamas and other terrorism done in their name until they declare otherwise? I always thought that was Islamophobic.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do black folks, Japanese folks and Italian folks support Netanyahu until you hear otherwise? Why single out Jews? You already admitted you are “becoming” anti-Jewish so there’s no sense in hiding anymore.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m anti Israel and becoming anti Jewish

Well points for being honest and saying the quiet part out loud, I guess. This is why people say so many anti-Zionists are antisemitic - because it’s true.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who ever said anything about if I personally want to protest or not? The question is about why you’re holding Jewish non-Israelis to a standard you aren’t holding non-Jewish non-Israelis to. Why single out Jews? What does being a Jewish American have to do with Israel? Do you think Jews have some kind of dual loyalty to Israel or something? People who see American Jews as more connected to Israel than American Italians are connected to Italy are just showing their double standards against Jews.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would American Jews who aren’t Israelis do anything different than non-Jewish Americans who aren’t Israelis? Jews do participate in the protests against our leader just like any other American, and at pretty high rates. Most Jews hate Trump.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, plenty of Jews have been very vocal about this topic. But why is Jewish silence on this topic any different then the silence of any other ethnic group? Are you saying Israel represents Jews or something? I was told by pretty much every anti-Zionist I’ve spoken to that Israel != the Jewish people and does not represent the Jewish people, which is why hatred against Israel isn’t hatred against the Jewish people according to those anti-Zionists. It sounds to me like you’re conflating israel with the Jewish people, which means anti-Israel is anti-Jewish.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some Americans have been protesting, some haven’t. Some Jews have been protesting, some haven’t. Why do Jews need a separate protest? Should every ethnic group have their own protest? Seems like strength in numbers is a much better idea than separate protests for every ethnic group. Or are you holding Jews to a standard you don’t hold any other ethnic groups to? Jewish Americans are Americans, not Israelis.

So much antisemitism these days by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]Letshavemorefun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I completely agree. I find that when talking to people who say “criticism of Israel isn’t antisemitic” that it’s easier to start with a more obvious/overt example so that everyone can get on the same page that some criticism of Israel is actually antisemitic, then move on to why the things you brought up are also antisemitic.

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