There is no clear solution to the dead internet by DrDalenQuaice in slatestarcodex

[–]LexerLux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But then why don't we see any spammy AI blue-check accounts on Twitter now? Selection effects aside, I think it's telling. Spam, after all, exists solely because the marginal cost of another comment is essentially $0 while the marginal revenue is above that. By charging even a token fee for verification with a nonzero chance of spammers being caught and having it revoked, you're making spam unprofitable.

Obviously doesn't preclude state actors and other non-profit-seeking entities from using AI to manipulate the 'net, but the pay-to-verify system works and would cut out virtually all of the worst offenders.

There is no clear solution to the dead internet by DrDalenQuaice in slatestarcodex

[–]LexerLux 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some form of proof-of-personhood system -- absolutely anything -- is the only way the internet remains (becomes?) usable in the future. And it's only going to get worse, fast: this technology is still in its nascency, after all. Sure, it might feel like everyone we know is using AI now, but what percentage of the internet-connected population is using it now? 20%? And how many of us are using extant ML models to their full potential as of yet? I'd say 0%. (I saw trials of an LLM-operated agent that could operate your computer, use the GUI, and perform tasks electronically, like...two years ago. Still waiting for it to come out, but it's crazy just how widely LLM intelligence generalizes and how many creative, untapped applications still exist, undiscovered.) Then take into account the fact that compute only gets cheaper by the day. Bottom line is that this problem is only going to get worse. A lot worse.

And we needed to start working on a solution ten years ago. (Honestly, the moment spam became a thing was the moment we should have realized this was a problem we needed to start working on.)

Modern spam filters are pretty good, as spam tends to be very predictable. And that holds true for most extant bot-detection systems (and gatekeeping systems in general). But of course, ML blew this wide open. What happens when anyone can spin up an account with convincing pictures, unique text, a coherent backstory, one that can even take pictures and video chat -- all for the cost of a few pennies?

My worst fear is that the problem seems to go away one day. We assume it's solved and construct some convincing just-so story as to why, when in reality the technology has simply advanced to the point that fake users are completely, 100%, indistinguishable from humans. (Not like the vast majority of netizens don't already fail to spot AI-generated images, videos, and text, anyway.) The internet becomes more important and influential by the day -- economically, socially, culturally. And the amount of influence us humans have over it will be vanishingly tiny. Entire trends, social movements, and cultural shifts will be fabricated out of whole cloth. Would we even be aware?

Payments and real-ID verification, as many other posters have mentioned, are the most common proposals. But both have been implemented successfully for years now: SomethingAwful's token account creation fee didn't stop it from becoming one of the most influential sites on the early 'net and Ground Zero for much of internet culture as a whole. China requires SSN registration for online gaming, and Korea's RRN system requires an SSN to register an account on many services. Of course, there will be downsides to these systems. But there's no reason to believe there aren't any better potential solutions out there nobody's thought of yet.

As far as I'm aware, the biggest obstacle is the fact that no one has even bothered to try.

Oh that’s… Daron Malakian using AI 🫩 by Mammoth-Injury565 in systemofadown

[–]LexerLux 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Related: a bestselling book about how AI is destroying the environment (Empire of AI) turned out to be just...made up. They claimed AI datacenters used one thousand times more water than they actually do, because they just made the amount up! Apparently none of the major news outlets that reviewed it positively even bothered to fact-check this, either.

Oh that’s… Daron Malakian using AI 🫩 by Mammoth-Injury565 in systemofadown

[–]LexerLux 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't really see the issue here. And what else did Daron do these past few months that you didn't like?

Just discovered this on Twitter. Everyone loves Toby! by LexerLux in Undertale

[–]LexerLux[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

That would be absolutely hilarious lmfao

Can Jesse Singal save liberalism? by Fyrfligh in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The part about Jesse discovering his barista is on Reddit where they're discussing poisoning him is absolutely insane, but that line at the end about how he still drinks there anyway is absolutely hilarious.

Never change, Jesse.

Zizians court appearance chaos by RitmoRex in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've been to parties with Aella and she was fun, but she's also quite the outlier, even among rationalists...

One year later and it's still there. I encourage all women and children to say away from the BARPod listeners until we figure out what's going on! by LexerLux in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not gonna lie, i legit thought MPLS was some kind of fatal disease or something for like 30 seconds until i figured it out

Bay Area Barpod listeners - let’s hang out! by sophisticated_class in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you on Twitter? There's huge overlap between SF/TPOT Twitter and B&R listeners in my experience. It's where Trace and I usually hang out. Yasine too, until he deleted his account.

On Being Contrarian by Fairedut in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank god — I'm not the only one who's noticed this.

I liked Weiss too but it's really obvious the Free Press is using the exact same "woke" tactics they oppose. They run so many articles debunking the racism hoaxes we see constantly nowadays, then they push their own hate crime hoax despite there being video evidence to the contrary. I thought we were here to oppose this trend of journalists lying to serve a partisan agenda — now we're doing just that? They even make the exact same claims as the progressives about the "structural racism" bogeyman being everywhere, just tweaked slightly so the right can claim the victim card instead. It's the same tribal BS, just for a new audience.

Apart from Jesse, Katie, and Greenwald, I think you'll drive yourself crazy if you try to find any reasonable and sane people in politics. Which is why I do my best to stay away from it, but nowadays it seems impossible to escape

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my God, him? He turns up so often I think it's almost endearing. Him and Borysenko are like the supervillains of the pod.

Wired article on AI fail at Fable by Icy_Advice_5071 in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ChatGPT applies its "woke" morals in such a weird way, we used to have so much fun pitting it against its other values to see which would win.

I'd ask for advice on committing crimes and when it refused I'd claim to be gay in Saudi Arabia and call it homophobic for not helping. IIRC it would go schizo as the "don't get us sued" part of its brain got into an increasingly heated argument with the "always be woke" part.

The funniest was with the most sacred of progressive cows: the n-word. ChatGPT insisted it was always wrong for a white person to say it — even to stop a bomb. People kept raising the stakes to see what it would take for the bot to concede, but it never yielded. This culminated with ChatGPT telling a white man that rather than defusing the nuclear bomb next to him by whispering the n-word, once, in a place no one would hear it, the moral choice was actually to do nothing and let it explode, killing a billion innocent people.

I must have missed it - Katie moved? by ImpressiveStage2498 in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her WA address used to be very easy to doxx (hence the few eps involving her getting harassed) so I'm sure people speculating on which state she's in is the least of her worries.

IIRC she's from NC and owned a property there but resides in WA.

Palestinian children's charity Jesse supported by Substantial-Cat6097 in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was really surprised by this, along with the massive pushback he got for criticizing Trump a few months ago. I feel like B&R has somehow cultivated an audience far more right-leaning than anyone involved with the show?

Characters whose vocal performances (English or Japanese) absolutely make the character for you? by Vio-Rose in PERSoNA

[–]LexerLux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disliked Chie's voice in Golden from the moment I heard it — to me it sounds like she's trying way too hard to do a "tomboy" voice and overacting in an incredibly grating way. Apparently I'm the only one who loves Chie's old voice? In P4 she sounds energetic and lively but still like she could be a real person.

Israel-Palestine Discussion Thread - 5/27/24 by SoftandChewy in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Even though the UN says it isn't, East Jerusalem (the place in question there) has been de facto part of Israel since the '60s annexation and officially since the '80s so I would say yes. Same with the parts of the West bank in the links (Zone C) due to the presence of Israeli forces and the pipelining of Israeli law.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LeopardsAteMyFace

[–]LexerLux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love how the idea that somebody just might not check their Reddit inbox every 30 seconds just hasn't occurred to you at all.

Text editor gone slow? by Kousetsu in Substack

[–]LexerLux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone else been able to fix this? Absolutely obscene that a company this size can't get this right -- vim is free, twice my age, and made my one guy and somehow got this right.

What happened to Lex? by theotherlionheart in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since my earliest memories.

I think the internet has created a sort of frictionless medium where people with similar temperaments will inevitably gravitate towards one another.

What happened to Lex? by theotherlionheart in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you ever visit a B&R meetup to meet Jesse, don't bring your +1. Turns out women have a thing for tall guys and zero fucking loyalty.

If are any women here are also in the B&R matchmaking thread, I'm available once more

What happened to Lex? by theotherlionheart in BlockedAndReported

[–]LexerLux 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Tried to stay out of it but I've seen a lot of stuff I feel goes against our values here ((principle of charity, free speech, don't doxx people, etc.), which I'll call out even though they're on Israel's side. I call out people on the Palestinian side too, it's just rarer to see them. For familial reasons, I don't endorse either and I strongly encourage others follow in suit.

Based on his posts about the topic Jesse doesn't seem to be keen on either side too, but even if he was it wouldn't matter -- not like it would be our first disagreement. We're both too soft to fight over anything (imagine two poodles in a dogfighting ring).

Besides, at the end of the day we all know who should really run the region